OT Lamar Odom suffers relapse

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Dang I didn't know he was doing tar?!?!

Less than a month ago one of Lamar Odom's best friends, Jamie Sangouthai, died from a flesh eating disease that he reportedly contracted "from sharing dirty needles." That's a big enough bummer on its own, but then less than a week after that another friend of Odom's passed away from drug usage in what was believed to be an overdose.

Flash forward to the present where yet another "friend" told the magazine Life & Style that Lamar had also relapsed whilst visiting Sangouthai back in April. If you believe that "a friend" telling a magazine a story is tenuous proof at best, then know also that the same magazine obtained pictures of the men's hotel room which showed blatant signs of drug use including traces of heroin, burnt tinfoil, and straws (pictured here).

In May a source reportedly close to Lamar told Life & Style that the former fourth overall pick headed for Vegas where he's "been regularly getting high." Previously, Odom had been reported to be entering rehab, and has made a similar claim towards friends over his current situation, saying that he'll be seeking treatment after they expressed worry over his eyebrow raising behavior, apparent mood swings, and slurred speech.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Damn...so very sad.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Damn...so very sad.

how so? it's a self inflicted wound. what a fucking moron this guy is. i wonder how many millions he's wasted killing himself.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Oh damn, when I saw relapse I thought you were going to say he got back together with that Kardashian.

 

[magnifier661]

Damn...so very sad.

Yeah I thought it was just crack. Don't get me wrong, crack killed my brother, but heroin is at another level of bad.

 

[magnifier661]

how so? it's a self inflicted wound. what a fucking moron this guy is. i wonder how many millions he's wasted killing himself.

I'd be very careful how you judge those that have serious problems with drug addictions. There is more than being "a fucking moron". Some very good people in the world died because they couldn't overcome the addiction.

Have you been addicted to crack, coke or heroin? I was addicted to coke, and believe me, that shit is hard to beat

 

[DaLincolnJones]

how so? it's a self inflicted wound. what a fucking moron this guy is. i wonder how many millions he's wasted killing himself.

it is so easy for people to become over dependent up substances or behavior of any kind..I just hate to see someone struggle with it. I hope he finds the ability to cope without killing himself with that shit

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

The smartest guy I ever knew died of a Heroin overdose on his birthday after years of sobriety.

 

[magnifier661]

The smartest guy I ever knew died of a Heroin overdose on his birthday after years of sobriety.

Yeah I had a few friends that died from Heroin overdoses as well. I never touched that shit because I was scared of needles. Probably saved my life.

And don't get me wrong. I used to call myself a fucking idiot when I was blowing $500 a week on blow. If I had Odom's money, I would have killed myself. Luckily I kicked it and got wise. If I ever see any of those types of drugs anywhere close to me, I throw up (literally!!!). I still crave it too, so I never am around it for my protection.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

good for you Mags

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I'd be very careful how you judge those that have serious problems with drug addictions. There is more than being "a fucking moron". Some very good people in the world died because they couldn't overcome the addiction.

Have you been addicted to crack, coke or heroin? I was addicted to coke, and believe me, that shit is hard to beat

no because im not dumb enough to get addicted to it. addicts of all kinds like to blame shift and labeling addiction as a disease is just a way to blame shift. you were addicted to coke, that was dumb of you, you overcame it, smart move. like any mistake in life we either learn from it or keep making it over and over. ive been addicted to other things and had to teach myself moderation. were my addictions just like a hard narcotic? no, there are deffinately chemical dependencies formed in the brain, theres no doubt in my mind it's a struggle to get clean. still doesnt mean he's not an idiot for getting to that point.

 

[magnifier661]

no because im not dumb enough to get addicted to it. addicts of all kinds like to blame shift and labeling addiction as a disease is just a way to blame shift. you were addicted to coke, that was dumb of you, you overcame it, smart move. like any mistake in life we either learn from it or keep making it over and over. ive been addicted to other things and had to teach myself moderation. were my addictions just like a hard narcotic? no, there are deffinately chemical dependencies formed in the brain, theres no doubt in my mind it's a struggle to get clean. still doesnt mean he's not an idiot for getting to that point.

Sometimes it takes just one line or one shot and you're hooked. And if you've never been addicted to a narcotic, you have absolutely no idea of the struggle.

I don't claim it a disease. I claim it's something that ones that never experience have a fucking clue. So the insensitive comments from one that has never witnessed their brother or friend die of an overdose, while you are still hooked and doing it gives you a small sample size.

I'm glad you are smart enough to never touch that shit. Good for you, I'll make you a button. But passing judgement on those that are deep in it is silly as fuck.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

I hate hearing this shit. I'm afraid one of my best friends is going down this path and I fucking hate it.

 

[magnifier661]

I hate hearing this shit. I'm afraid one of my best friends is going down this path and I fucking hate it.

Lectures will not work. The best advice I can give is try to direct his focus on the people he loves. Don't say shit like "look what you are doing to them" or stupid shit like that. Just give them hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. He needs to make up his own damn mind.

 

[BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94]

Lectures will not work. The best advice I can give is try to direct his focus on the people he loves. Don't say shit like "look what you are doing to them" or stupid shit like that. Just give them hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. He needs to make up his own damn mind.

I've stopped talking to him. I just can't have him around my child.

 

[magnifier661]

I've stopped talking to him. I just can't have him around my child.

I don't blame you

 

[Further]

It's sad even though it's his fault. Addiction is a cycle, it's starts as something you think is easy to deal with, especially when you are young and feel invincible. But one day you realize it's grabbed ahold of you. I've only been addicted to cigarettes, started at 14 and quit finally at 38 years old (41 now). And H is much harder to kick even if the addiction is similar because the drug messes with ones ability to rationally think things through over time. But you have to learn how to not be dependent. I had to learn to not rely on cigs when stressed. I took those lessons from quitting smoking and have now lost 106lbs because I learned what it means to take responsibility for oneself, to not be dependent. Lamar and most people who get addicted don't know they aren't thinking correctly, they haven't learned to think about personal responsibility.

 

[ripcityboy]

God I hope he kicks it. But damn it's hard. Roomed with a smack addict and they just become different people. Sometimes they are your friends and sometimes they are from Mars. Terrible stuff.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Sometimes it takes just one line or one shot and you're hooked. And if you've never been addicted to a narcotic, you have absolutely no idea of the struggle.

I don't claim it a disease. I claim it's something that ones that never experience have a fucking clue. So the insensitive comments from one that has never witnessed their brother or friend die of an overdose, while you are still hooked and doing it gives you a small sample size.

I'm glad you are smart enough to never touch that shit. Good for you, I'll make you a button. But passing judgement on those that are deep in it is silly as fuck.

ive know plenty of people who were addicted to shit. a buddy of mine shot himself 4 time in the chest in feburary. my fiance decided to throw away our relationship and abort our child for 1 more hit after being sober for years. they are both morons.

 

[magnifier661]

ive know plenty of people who were addicted to shit. a buddy of mine shot himself 4 time in the chest in feburary. my fiance decided to throw away our relationship and abort our child for 1 more hit after being sober for years. they are both morons.

This post explains your first post.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Had several friends/family go through serious addiction. Seen in first hand in and around my life and home, and been a part of the battle.

Good luck to Odom - it's a constant uphill battle until he dies, whether as an 80-year old of natural causes or via drug-related causes.

 

[riverman]

Clapton kicked it using the method Pete Townsend used..electro shock therapy I think. I had a friend of 20 years I played tennis with regularly who was a closet junkie and found him dead one morning in his apartment...38 years old, beautiful girlfriend, good job..I tried to intervene for 2 years and in the end he told me nothing compared to the drug and how it solved all his issues...had his toes removed from needle induced gangrene..it's a death dance and if someone wants to die..they'll figure a way to do it. It's a cowardly drug

 

[Further]

So you're saying you really want to bum a smoke (just kidding my friend)

I happy to report that after about a year of no smoking my desire to smoke vanished. havent had a craving in ages, even while drinking.

Funny think about drinking is that wine is my new profession. I'm back in school studying enology and viticulture (all things wine) and working at a winery. I live in wine country and go wine tasting several times a week. But I've learned my lessons, so I rarely get drunk and exercise daily to offset the calories.

 

[Blazer509]

Yeah it's easy to judge people with mental illness and with an addictive personality but until you're in their shoes, you haven't a clue what they are going through or what their story is. Stop being judgemental.

 

[ripcityboy]

I happy to report that after about a year of no smoking my desire to smoke vanished. havent had a craving in ages, even while drinking.

Funny think about drinking is that wine is my new profession. I'm back in school studying enology and viticulture (all things wine) and working at a winery. I live in wine country and go wine tasting several times a week. But I've learned my lessons, so I rarely get drunk and exercise daily to offset the calories.

Funny. I smoked every day for years then about a year ago my lungs started to hurt and I had X-rays. I'd tried everything but nothing worked. But I swore to God if I was healthy then I would never smoke again. The X-rays were negative and I don't smoke any more. Guess I am too paranoid to break THAT promise.

 

[Further]

Meanwhile, many people do successfully quit heroin and crack. Two of my best friends used to have big problems with both, neither has touched the stuff in over a decade. Both are quite successful now financially and with awesome loving families. There is hope that Lamar and others figure it out before it's too late.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

how so? it's a self inflicted wound. what a fucking moron this guy is. i wonder how many millions he's wasted killing himself.

Just because it's self inflicted doesn't mean it's not sad.

A lot of homeless people are due to self inflicted issues...doesn't make it less sad that they are homeless.

Jesus man, don't you want HUMANITY to do well?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

I happy to report that after about a year of no smoking my desire to smoke vanished. havent had a craving in ages, even while drinking.

Funny think about drinking is that wine is my new profession. I'm back in school studying enology and viticulture (all things wine) and working at a winery. I live in wine country and go wine tasting several times a week. But I've learned my lessons, so I rarely get drunk and exercise daily to offset the calories.

Being in the wine industry.... I just enjoy the calories of the wine (oh and the alcohol).

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yeah it's easy to judge people with mental illness an with an addictive personality by until you're in their shoes, you haven't a clue what they are going through or what their story is. Stop being judgemental.

Just like every other topic.... There's always a group that's totally ignorant and oblivious.

 

[ThugginPaulyGAllen]

ive know plenty of people who were addicted to shit. a buddy of mine shot himself 4 time in the chest in feburary. my fiance decided to throw away our relationship and abort our child for 1 more hit after being sober for years. they are both morons.

So you don't think mental health illnesses are sad? Because there are rumors some of these people are bipolar, depressed etc.

Man, I thought Lillard was cold blooded...