Trade Larry Nance Jr traded to Portland

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Ohh hell…. No one removed them. This thread is straight hoppin!!. I didnt scroll far enough back and thought a major cleanup had taken place. Lol


Now. Back to my lalalas.
 
andalusian said:
If it makes Dame happy, it's worth it...
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oh hell no

A minimum contract for that guy would double in luxury tax payments. And I don't know if he'd be more valuable than this guy who is still on our books

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illmatic99 said:
oh hell no

A minimum contract for that guy would double. And I don't know if he'd be more valuable than this guy who is still on our books

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I would hope Dame would be happier if they got a legit backup PG, (Either Niki or Exum) but, if that's what makes Dame happy, you do that everyday and go about your business...
 
Okay. Back on track.

13 rosters spots still

what does this do to our cap threshold? do we have anything to work with in the buyout market still?
 
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I come here to read fan opinions and the continual Olshey-bashing gets old... especially when it drives so many posters' underlying theme in the majority of their posts. There are only a handful of what we would call a "blockbluster" trade in the NBA each year. Short of trading Lillard, we're not going to be a part of any "blockbuster" trade with the assets we currently have. The sooner everyone can temper their expectations to what's actually reality (both ours and other owners' inflated value of their trade assets), the more this board can become constructive IMO. I like the pieces we have and think the coaching change will be a greater gain than we think.

Flame away...
 
Scalma said:
Nance vs the guy many would’ve traded CJ for, Jerami Grant

PER: 13.2, 16.9
TS%: .557, .556
REB%: 12.7, 7.6
AST%: 14.4, 14.3
BLK%: 1.4, 2.8
STL%: 2.8, 0.9
WS/48: .080, .083
BPM: 0.6, 0.9
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You're missing a very key component between the two players. One can stay healthy. The other can not.

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Orion Bailey said:
Okay. Back on track.

13 rosters spots still

what does this do to our cap threshold? do we have anything to work with in the buyout market still?
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slightly more over the tax line than when we started. Still have the TPMLE. Still could benefit from a CJ for 2-lower-paid-players deal.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
slightly more over the tax line than when we started. Still have the TPMLE. Still could benefit from a CJ for 2-lower-paid-players deal.
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Quick is suggesting the blazers will bring in multiple vets on non guaranteed deals and let them fight it out for the last spot.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
slightly more over the tax line than when we started. Still have the TPMLE. Still could benefit from a CJ for 2-lower-paid-players deal.
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I still see value in throwing 5 mil at someone even if they don't deserve it (luxury tax be damned). It would be a great trade chip come deadline. Combining that with Powell's 15.5 mil deal brings you to 21 mil, which is enough salary to land someone like Draymond/Barnes/Grant/Sabonis, etc.
 
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Duckhook said:
I come here to read fan opinions and the continual Olshey-bashing gets old... especially when it drives so many posters' underlying theme in the majority of their posts. There are only a handful of what we would call a "blockbluster" trade in the NBA each year. Short of trading Lillard, we're not going to be a part of any "blockbuster" trade with the assets we currently have. The sooner everyone can temper their expectations to what's actually reality (both ours and other owners' inflated value of their trade assets), the more this board can become constructive IMO. I like the pieces we have and think the coaching change will be a greater gain than we think.

Flame away...
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I want to keep Dame. That's the goal, correct?

You guys getting mad about perceived negativity seem to forget that we're not the only ones judging Neil right now. Dame reportedly hasn't been happy with our offseason so far. If Dame's not happy, I'm not happy. I can imagine that acquiring Nance will be a good step in the right direction for Dame, but do you really think this is what Dame had in mind? He said the roster wasn't good enough. The core of that roster is still intact.
 
Love the trade. Solid addition, improves depth and flexibility.

I dont like Neil, don't want to be on the side of defending him, but I feel like he can't win unless he moves cj for most here.
If he moves a non-lotto 1st for a solid piece, people will bitch about not having draft picks. If he doesn't make that move, he's doing nothing at all. I saw some on twitter saying how this move will make Dame made even. Like Dame care's about our 22 pick?!
 
RR7 said:
Love the trade. Solid addition, improves depth and flexibility.

I dont like Neil, don't want to be on the side of defending him, but I feel like he can't win unless he moves cj for most here.
If he moves a non-lotto 1st for a solid piece, people will bitch about not having draft picks. If he doesn't make that move, he's doing nothing at all. I saw some on twitter saying how this move will make Dame made even. Like Dame care's about our 22 pick?!
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I think there's pretty much a consensus that it's a good move, but not enough to make us a contender.

I mean, can anyone disagree with that?
 
Seems like a good trade to me. A solid rotational role player that is not a sieve on defense, we needed plenty of those types last year. I am fine too with trading a draft pick for hin. Why even be upset about it, unless you are a Minnesota Timberwolves fan in disguise.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I think there's pretty much a consensus that it's a good move, but not enough to make us a contender.

I mean, can anyone disagree with that?
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me. We stay fully healthy. Jokic goes down. Lakers need a wheel chair. Etc etc


I think if everything pans out( not a good percentage of that happening, but that kinda goes for all teams) we are a top for in the west. With a bit of luck during the season we could be top two to three.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I think there's pretty much a consensus that it's a good move, but not enough to make us a contender.

I mean, can anyone disagree with that?
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We'll see, none of us really know how good or bad this team will be under a new coach, few new players and hopefully fewer injuries this year. If Naz or Simons pop it could be a very interesting year.
Its obvious Dame & CJ will not be going iso as much. I see much more ball movement this year and expect our D to improve a good bit.
 
The way I look at it, the team needs to build a contender during dame's peak and this is a step in the right direction (they are closer than before). If they blow it up, they will get plenty of picks from trades, so giving up a FRP is not important. Good move.
 
Good trade imo. we're still very small though - id love to see another more traditional big in the mix at C/PF - maybe a vet to help things in the locker room too
 
Natebishop3 said:
I want to keep Dame. That's the goal, correct?

You guys getting mad about perceived negativity seem to forget that we're not the only ones judging Neil right now. Dame reportedly hasn't been happy with our offseason so far. If Dame's not happy, I'm not happy. I can imagine that acquiring Nance will be a good step in the right direction for Dame, but do you really think this is what Dame had in mind? He said the roster wasn't good enough. The core of that roster is still intact.
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When Dame, CJ and Powell represent nearly 2/3 of your entire season salary, what options do you have? Had we not offered them they would be playing elsewhere and we'd be out of the playoffs looking in each year. I don't begrudge Olshey for paying them what they're worth, but to suggest Dame and the fanbase aren't happy and still expect major changes with the protected players we have is irrational. Dame dictates who stays and goes and don't think he doesn't have a say. I guess my point is what choice does NO have? The Lakers faced similar decisions when they signed Kobe to his supermax - his last 4-5 years the Lakers were gawd-awful and he took up to 40% of their salary at the time.

It's a no-win situation when you have a mega star and pay him as such. I'm not blaming Dame as he's earned every dollar he's made in Portland, but to think major moves are required while the said mega star protects his friends who represent 2/3 of the salary and playing time is impossible.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I want to keep Dame. That's the goal, correct?

You guys getting mad about perceived negativity seem to forget that we're not the only ones judging Neil right now. Dame reportedly hasn't been happy with our offseason so far. If Dame's not happy, I'm not happy. I can imagine that acquiring Nance will be a good step in the right direction for Dame, but do you really think this is what Dame had in mind? He said the roster wasn't good enough. The core of that roster is still intact.
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the goal isn’t to keep dame, the goal is to win. That’s what Dame has in mind, not making fantasy trades that look sexy on paper. We could trade CJ for Simmons but if we don’t win, Dame will still bounce, and probably even quicker since his best friend is no longer here.

We’re a lot better today than yesterday. We’ll see how it goes with Billups and reassess at the deadline. But keep crying.
 
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