Layman to T-Wolves

[twobullz]

This is the best news I heard all day. No more watching him get abused on defense.

 

[THE HCP]

Am I correct in saying that at this very moment, we have 6.....SIX...... players on our roster that were with us on opening night? That's some turnover fo yo ass!

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Why is The HCP still allowed to make threads?

He bought a dog.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Wait til my first summer league thread son!

I can just see it now:
"Vegas SL 2019 game 1: Zers vs OSU Ducks"

 

[Driew]

Am I correct in saying that at this very moment, we have 6.....SIX...... players on our roster that were with us on opening night? That's some turnover fo yo ass!

And it's crazy that so much turnover is happening after a trip to the WCF instead of after we got swept by the Pelicans. I think NO realized that our current roster as constructed last year was at best a WCF team. To not get swept by the Warriors again he had to make some major changes. Hopefully it pays off--we shall see.

 

[Binx]

Neil probably wanted to keep him, but not at the expense of disgruntling a player and his agent.

Not sure how badly Olshey wanted to keep him, since he went out and got so many guys who can play his position.

 

[Chris Craig]

What the fuck? Why? Why didnt we just resign him? Pissed

 

[B-Roy]

12 mill for layman after tax. Sucks but oh well. That contract is actually very tradable...

 

[oldmangrouch]

Sorry, but I can't get too excited about this either way.

 

[TBpup]

Wait til my first summer league thread son!

And that right there would guarantee the Blazers don't repeat as SL champs. Damn it!

Am I correct in saying that at this very moment, we have 6.....SIX...... players on our roster that were with us on opening night? That's some turnover fo yo ass!

I'm more focused on who they kept.

DAME
CJ
NURKIC
COLLINS
HOOD
SIMONS

The rest are players who, while they may or may not be that much better than who is leaving (I think they are incrementally better overall), IMO, they FIT much better with what the Blazers do and how teams can defend Dame.

 

[LayneStaley]

I think when Little fell to 25 the future of Jake was murky at best, wasn’t Little Neil’s 12th overall player?

 

[oldmangrouch]

What the fuck? Why? Why didnt we just resign him? Pissed

Possibility A) Stotts had no faith in him and wanted him gone.
Possibility B) Olshey didn't want him blocking Little from getting some game experience.
Possibility C) Layman didn't want to be stuck between 2 superior vets and a highly touted rookie. Since they could have just dumped him and they instead traded him for nothing, I'm guessing they were doing him a favor.

There is always the possibility that Layman will get to play more and look better with the TWolves. He was never going to be a key rotation guy here, so good luck to him.

 

[TBpup]

I think when Little fell to 25 the future of Jake was murky at best, wasn’t Little Neil’s 12th overall player?

Yes, something like that. Their trade plans started changing around #20. A couple of guys at the Draft party have great connections and their phones started beeping around that time. Portland hadn't planned on Little being available. Hadn't brought him in, hadn't interviewed him and had only scouted him briefly when they were looking at other players. As it because obvious that Little might fall to them, the quickly pivoted (to their credit) and decided they would take Little regardless of the little background they had on him.

Neil said as much in his press conference after the Draft. I'd texted this to @BonesJones and it was fun to hear Olshey repeat it almost verbatim.

 

[THE HCP]

Sorry, but I can't get too excited about this either way.

I'll take, "Things you've heard from both the human females you've tried to have sex with" for $1,000 Alex.

 

[tester551]

it would only be the part Portland pays...about 1.7M. The league picks up the rest. The part the counts against the cap is the part Portland pays, not the full salary

but yeah, I can't see why Portland would not want the much larger TPE as an asset

If Tolliver was included, he would be a S&T which would hard-cap the Blazers.

Im tginking it was a math error and the reports are incorrect

 

[tester551]

That's because Evan Turner was a the 4. Layman is a better option than Turner. Layman rebounded as well as Tolliver last year.

Thats not saying much... I'm not too happy with the Tolliver signing. I think there were better options available

 

[tester551]

Yes, something like that. Their trade plans started changing around #20. A couple of guys at the Draft party have great connections and their phones started beeping around that time. Portland hadn't planned on Little being available. Hadn't brought him in, hadn't interviewed him and had only scouted him briefly when they were looking at other players. As it because obvious that Little might fall to them, the quickly pivoted (to their credit) and decided they would take Little regardless of the little background they had on him.

Neil said as much in his press conference after the Draft. I'd texted this to @BonesJones and it was fun to hear Olshey repeat it almost verbatim.

Whats D69s thoughts on Little? Hes fallen off the face of the earth....

 

[TBpup]

Thats not saying much... I'm not too happy with the Tolliver signing. I think there were better options available

I like him as a veteran presence but wouldn't have been my first choice. However, with Jake's roster spot now empty, I believe they will get an actual player over 6'9".

 

[Blazer Freak]

You know what dumping Jake for Hezonja reminds me of? Dumping Connaughton for Stauskas. I heard so many arguments about how we were a much better spot for Stauskas than his previous spots, and how our system would make him a useful player while Pat would struggle elsewhere because our system helped him out as well.

Connaughton was great for Milwaukee last year and Stauskas' numbers here were NO BETTER than any other stop on his journey. Now Stauskas is on his way out of the league.

While Layman’s contract is fairly small, you look the market with veterans who can pretty clearly contribute getting the minimum/2-3M deals and add the daft that with the luxury tax his contract would count as pretty much double what he’s making...it didn’t make sense to keep a player who’s production is easily replaced. Give that money to another bit to help our lack of depth.

Only this forum would complain about the loss of a 12th man...give those few minutes to Little who has FAR more potential then Jake ever will and we’ll be better off for it.

 

[riverman]

This will be like Connaughton going to the Bucks.….people will sort of remember him at times

 

[THE HCP]

Who the hell changed the title of my thread!!!???

 

[riverman]

Just read the Wolves also signed Noah Vonleh to one year 2 mil deal....so Layman, Vonleh and former Duck Jordan Bell to the Wolves

 

[riverman]

Who the hell changed the title of my thread!!!???

Somebody who couldn't see it?

 

[TBpup]

Who the hell changed the title of my thread!!!???

Someone who could typographically convey what was actually going on?

 

[riverman]

So Jake will get married in Boston, Portland or Minneapolis this summer?

 

[BonesJones]

Yes, something like that. Their trade plans started changing around #20. A couple of guys at the Draft party have great connections and their phones started beeping around that time. Portland hadn't planned on Little being available. Hadn't brought him in, hadn't interviewed him and had only scouted him briefly when they were looking at other players. As it because obvious that Little might fall to them, the quickly pivoted (to their credit) and decided they would take Little regardless of the little background they had on him.

Neil said as much in his press conference after the Draft. I'd texted this to @BonesJones and it was fun to hear Olshey repeat it almost verbatim.

Yeah I hold to hold it back on the livestream.

 

[BonesJones]

While Layman’s contract is fairly small, you look the market with veterans who can pretty clearly contribute getting the minimum/2-3M deals and add the daft that with the luxury tax his contract would count as pretty much double what he’s making...it didn’t make sense to keep a player who’s production is easily replaced. Give that money to another bit to help our lack of depth.

Only this forum would complain about the loss of a 12th man...give those few minutes to Little who has FAR more potential then Jake ever will and we’ll be better off for it.

12th man?

...

Were replacing a 9th man with a 15th man.

 

[Blazer Freak]

Dame
CJ
Bazemore
Simons
Hood
Whiteside
Little
Mario
Tolliver
Collins
Skal/Trent

That’s 11-12 that could play ahead of him and not miss much. Again...we’re arguing over a “9th-12th man” and paying him what would amount to 6M a year...only on s2 is this even a conversation. I like Jake, he’s got talent....but he’s easily replaceable.

 

[RR7]

12th man?

...

Were replacing a 9th man with a 15th man.

Who did we replace him with?

 

[BonesJones]

Dame
CJ
Bazemore
Simons
Hood
Whiteside
Little
Mario
Tolliver
Collins
Skal/Trent

That’s 11-12 that could play ahead of him and not miss much. Again...we’re arguing over a “9th-12th man” and paying him what would amount to 6M a year...only on s2 is this even a conversation. I like Jake, he’s got talent....but he’s easily replaceable.

Theres only 7 people on that list that are better than him.