LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

[GotSkillz92]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

Admit what defeat. Humiliating for who? You keep on saying the same thing. Wilt is not better than Shaq or Kareem. You might make a point for Russell but thats it. Wilt played with small players who couldnt stop him. Its like me going to a kiddie park and dominating everybody. The Glove and Malone were good enough to win a ship. They had enough in the bag to pull it out. O and Chang there is NOWAY KG and T-MAC make that list since T-mac has never passed the first round and KG has yet to get a ring and has only passed the first round once.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz52 @ Apr 25 2006, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Admit what defeat. Humiliating for who? You keep on saying the same thing. Wilt is not better than Shaq or Kareem. You might make a point for Russell but thats it. Wilt played with small players who couldnt stop him. Its like me going to a kiddie park and dominating everybody. The Glove and Malone were good enough to win a ship. They had enough in the bag to pull it out. O and Chang there is NOWAY KG and T-MAC make that list since T-mac has never passed the first round and KG has yet to get a ring and has only passed the first round once.</div>

 

[chang]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

There are plenty of "current" NBA 50 greatest that have never won a championship (Lenny Willkins, Thumond, BARKLEY, McHale, Sam jones, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, a few others). Kevin Garnett and T-Mac would whoop at least the bottom 10 of the "current" top 50.

 

[Sham]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

This is an MVP deserving performance for this guy. He's getting TDs like crazy and he's only in his 3rd year. I don't c Nash getting any.

 

[DevinHester23]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

Nash is the MVP. He is what makes the Suns engine run. He makes his teammates better, the true meaning of most valuable to the team. If you see how the Suns play when Nash is injured, they play horrible. Nash is the MVP.

 

[chang]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

As much as I hate him, Kobe should be the MVP. Take him from the Lakers, the only person able of doing something would be Odom. Take LeBron from the Cavs, Hughes, Big Z, Gooden, can all contribute to win games.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrianUrlacher54 @ Apr 25 2006, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nash is the MVP. He is what makes the Suns engine run. He makes his teammates better, the true meaning of most valuable to the team. If you see how the Suns play when Nash is injured, they play horrible. Nash is the MVP.</div>Nash = Stephon Marbury to the Suns. And Marbury is no MVP.

 

[chang]

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BTW, the reasons the Suns look like they're a snake without a head when Nash doesn't play is because he is their only PG. Barbosa was and will always be the score 1st "PG". He's more a SG. Diaw tries to be like Odom but isn't versatile enough. They really need to draft Rajon Rondo or Dan Gibson this draft.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 25 2006, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>BTW, the reasons the Suns look like they're a snake without a head when Nash doesn't play is because he is their only PG. Barbosa was and will always be the score 1st "PG". He's more a SG. Diaw tries to be like Odom but isn't versatile enough. They really need to draft Rajon Rondo or Dan Gibson this draft.</div>Pretty much, Starbury and Kidd took them to the playoffs too, and without Amare.

 

[GotSkillz92]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 25 2006, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There are plenty of "current" NBA 50 greatest that have never won a championship (Lenny Willkins, Thumond, BARKLEY, McHale, Sam jones, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, a few others). Kevin Garnett and T-Mac would whoop at least the bottom 10 of the "current" top 50.</div>Did I say win a ship? All of those guys you mentioned were close to winning a championship alot of times. They succeeded in the playoffs but just couldnt win the series. They consisently took their teams to the playoffs which KG and T-Mac can't. You cant compare the players of today with the old-school.

 

[chang]

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How can you have a greatest top 50 players without comparing todays player with the players of the old age?????Tracy McGrady and Kevin Garnett would whoop a bunch of "current" top 50 greatest. If they updated that list this year or in 5 years, LeBron, Dwyane Wade, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and probably Tracy McGrady, Dirk Nowitzki, Allen Iverson would have to make the list.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Apr 26 2006, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How can you have a greatest top 50 players without comparing todays player with the players of the old age?????Tracy McGrady and Kevin Garnett would whoop a bunch of "current" top 50 greatest. If they updated that list this year or in 5 years, LeBron, Dwyane Wade, Tim Duncan, Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, and probably Tracy McGrady, Dirk Nowitzki, Allen Iverson would have to make the list.</div>You compare what those players were doing then above the average player, as opposed to what a player is doing now. The average score now is probably 20 points higher than 30 years ago, average that over a season and scoring the same amount now as 30 years ago isn't comparable.

 

[chang]

Re: LBJ: Triple-Double in his Debut!!!

The only reason points occur more is because of the 24 second shot clock and the 3 pt stripe.But also, factor in the fact that the game is more physical and athleticism is at an all-time high... playing the game back then was "easier" than currently.

 

[Agent Zero]

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Pssh... LeBron sucks