Lee to Portland?????

[Blazer4life]

Man these rumors/speculation are non-stop now. Wonder really what will really happen on draft night.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...fting_hill_would_mean_knicks_try_to_deal_lee/

 

[Tince]

Man these rumors/speculation are non-stop now. Wonder really what will really happen on draft night.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...fting_hill_would_mean_knicks_try_to_deal_lee/

Unless we're trading Joel, Greg, or LMA, I don't see any reason to pay 8-10 million a year to a backup PF who will play 12 minutes a game.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Lee is not going to come here and take on a reserve role. His agent will demand a trade.

That makes me think that if there are really legs to this rumor it's involving more than two teams and we will not end up with Lee.

 

[Blazer4life]

Unless we're trading Joel, Greg, or LMA, I don't see any reason to pay 8-10 million a year to a backup PF who will play 12 minutes a game.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I'm just posting the link since it is Blazer related. Who knows though, maybe we make a play for Lee to swing him on another deal. Then that would make a lot of sense.

 

[RickyRubio]

He would play more then 12 a game.

 

[Tince]

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I'm just posting the link since it is Blazer related. Who knows though, maybe we make a play for Lee to swing him on another deal. Then that would make a lot of sense.

That's more likely than keeping him. We could probably turn around and trade him for Hinrich or something...

 

[Tince]

He would play more then 12 a game.

Please breakdown the minutes for LMA, Oden, Joel, and Lee (by position) for me...

At 9 million a year, he better get close to 30 to have any sort of value.

 

[Blazer4life]

That's more likely than keeping him. We could probably turn around and trade him for Hinrich or something...

I would love to swing a trade for Lee in the sense of packaging him with say Outlaw and draft picks. That would definitely bring a substantial piece back to Portland.

 

[Tince]

I would love to swing a trade for Lee in the sense of packaging him with say Outlaw and draft picks. That would definitely bring a substantial piece back to Portland.

I don't think we could turn around and package him with anything else according to the CBA, but I could be wrong...

 

[Blazer4life]

I don't think we could turn around and package him with anything else according to the CBA, but I could be wrong...

I thought according to the CBA you had 48 hours to trade someone that you recently acquired. However, now that I think of it, you are not able to package any other pieces in a trade with a recently acquired player. Maybe you can break down the trade though into separate deals if need be. Just a thought.

 

[Ed O]

Please breakdown the minutes for LMA, Oden, Joel, and Lee (by position) for me...

At 9 million a year, he better get close to 30 to have any sort of value.

Minutes per game aren't very useful. Looking at minutes over the course of a season, and given standard wear and tear and the injury-proneness of our guys, a four man rotation of Aldridge/Oden/Joel/Lee is doable unless they all HAPPEN to stay healthy all season. And if they all stay healthy all season then we'll probably be one of the best teams in the NBA, which makes only playing 25-30 MPG more palatable.

Ed O.

 

[Blazer4life]

Minutes per game aren't very useful. Looking at minutes over the course of a season, and given standard wear and tear and the injury-proneness of our guys, a four man rotation of Aldridge/Oden/Joel/Lee is doable unless they all HAPPEN to stay healthy all season. And if they all stay healthy all season then we'll probably be one of the best teams in the NBA, which makes only playing 25-30 MPG more palatable.

Ed O.

That's true. Lee would solidify our frontline for sure, I'm just not sure that he would like to see his minutes decrease from what he plays now (but as we have seen both Oden and Joel have proven unreliable to stay healthy minus this last year from Joel). We would be the deepest frontcourt team in the NBA and a vet pointguard away from instant championship contender overnight.

 

[number 10]

Minutes per game aren't very useful. Looking at minutes over the course of a season, and given standard wear and tear and the injury-proneness of our guys, a four man rotation of Aldridge/Oden/Joel/Lee is doable unless they all HAPPEN to stay healthy all season. And if they all stay healthy all season then we'll probably be one of the best teams in the NBA, which makes only playing 25-30 MPG more palatable.

Ed O.

I think you'd have a hard time convincing Lee of the "injuries happen" argument though, even if I do agree. Maybe he could spend some time at the 3?

 

[Blazer4life]

Also, if we wanted to go real big at times (like for 5-10 minutes a game at most) Lee has shown an ability to play SF in spurts. Think of a lineup of Roy, Lee, Aldridge and Oden (and whoever we get to play point). Long, athletic and powerful. Now get a defensive minded PG/someone who can distribute the ball and look out.

 

[Minstrel]

Minutes per game aren't very useful. Looking at minutes over the course of a season, and given standard wear and tear and the injury-proneness of our guys, a four man rotation of Aldridge/Oden/Joel/Lee is doable unless they all HAPPEN to stay healthy all season. And if they all stay healthy all season then we'll probably be one of the best teams in the NBA, which makes only playing 25-30 MPG more palatable.

In addition, if Portland had Lee, they would probably play Aldridge somewhat fewer minutes to keep him rested throughout the season for the playoffs. When your backup at the position is Frye, you play Aldridge as many minutes as possible. When the backup is a starting-quality player, you can afford to give him more time off.

I'd rather do a consolidation trade and concentrate more talent at the top end...but if that isn't possible, depth can be beneficial in keeping players more rested and healthy.

 

[Tince]

I think you'd have a hard time convincing Lee of the "injuries happen" argument though, even if I do agree. Maybe he could spend some time at the 3?

Not only that, but you're going to have a hard time of convincing Paul Allen that he's worth that money banking on injuries. Paul Allen is unlikely to put us up in the 100 million a year salary range again, and we are going to have a ton of key pieces deserving raises in the next 3 years. Right now we have the chance to address majors needs and the PG or SF position, and spending all of our money on Lee doesn't make sense to me.

 

[SodaPopinski]

Meh ... I've softened on the David Lee interest. I'm with others that really don't see the sense in paying a guy significant money for a minor backup role. Plus I think Lee is a talented enough guy that he won't accept being a role player for long.

-Pop

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Lee is looking for 10/per, he'd be the highest paid Blazer.

 

[Ed O]

I think you'd have a hard time convincing Lee of the "injuries happen" argument though, even if I do agree. Maybe he could spend some time at the 3?

A player like Brian Grant was willing to come to Portland to play with a well-stocked front line... I think that lots of money and a chance to be a part of a big winner can go a long way to help with minutes insecurity.

I also think that with Aldridge and Lee, it's possible they could play any of the 3/4/5 spots in short spurts.

Do I WANT Aldridge or Lee at the SF? No. Against some players, though, they could pull it off, and in terms of a selling point it might help Lee find Portland more attractive.

Ed O.

 

[Storyteller2]

Man these rumors/speculation are non-stop now. Wonder really what will really happen on draft night.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_a...fting_hill_would_mean_knicks_try_to_deal_lee/

I can guarantee, though, that Lee will NOT be traded to Portland on draft day. It couldn't happen until July 9th at the earliest.

 

[Blazer4life]

Meh ... I've softened on the David Lee interest. I'm with others that really don't see the sense in paying a guy significant money for a minor backup role. Plus I think Lee is a talented enough guy that he won't accept being a role player for long.

-Pop

My thing is that I agree, the best bet would if we were to acquire someone like Lee is to trade him again since he would be a valuable asset around the league and would in all likelyhood enable us to get what we really need for our team. However if we did do a trade that got us Lee, I would be confident in knowing that our frontline would easily be the best in the game unlike this year where we had a glaring hole. Btw, I should say that i think the odds of us trading for Lee ar about 10-20%. Its at least fun to speculate since there are so many rumors out there now.

 

[Storyteller2]

I thought according to the CBA you had 48 hours to trade someone that you recently acquired. However, now that I think of it, you are not able to package any other pieces in a trade with a recently acquired player. Maybe you can break down the trade though into separate deals if need be. Just a thought.

The rule is that you can re-trade a player you acquired in trade immediately as long as no other salary is sent along with him. If you want to package him with other players, you have to wait 2 months.

The '48 hours' is associated with a sign-and-trade deal only. Once a sign-and-trade contract has been signed, the trade must be completed within 48 hours or the contract is null and void.

 

[Tince]

A player like Brian Grant was willing to come to Portland to play with a well-stocked front line... I think that lots of money and a chance to be a part of a big winner can go a long way to help with minutes insecurity.

I also think that with Aldridge and Lee, it's possible they could play any of the 3/4/5 spots in short spurts.

Do I WANT Aldridge or Lee at the SF? No. Against some players, though, they could pull it off, and in terms of a selling point it might help Lee find Portland more attractive.

Ed O.

Brian Grant was a starter, Lee would not be a starter.

 

[Nikolokolus]

A player like Brian Grant was willing to come to Portland to play with a well-stocked front line... I think that lots of money and a chance to be a part of a big winner can go a long way to help with minutes insecurity.

I also think that with Aldridge and Lee, it's possible they could play any of the 3/4/5 spots in short spurts.

Do I WANT Aldridge or Lee at the SF? No. Against some players, though, they could pull it off, and in terms of a selling point it might help Lee find Portland more attractive.

Ed O.

Lee can play a little bit of flex forward -- depending on matchups -- so it's not inconceivable that you could have Aldridge and Lee on the court at the same time and their games are different enough that you wouldn't be replicating skill sets the way that Frye and LMA overlapped. It also doesn't hurt that Lee has become a slightly more credible threat with his mid range jumper as opposed to being just a put back and garbage points guy.

I dunno ... I keep vacillating back on forth on Lee, I guess it all comes down to just how versatile of a player he can be.

 

[alex42083]

No thanks to Lee. Especially at $10 mil per. It still doesn't resolve our issue at point guard, and then creates a log jam up front. You can get a useful backup to LaMarcus and Greg at a MUCH cheaper price.

 

[Crimson the Cat]

If Lee is headed this way, Joel is either gone and Aldridge moves over to the 5, or Aldridge is going to play the 3 more.

You know, Pritch does things in a particular way. I could see his line of thinking that Przybilla's stock is as high as it could get. Maybe now would be the time to pull the trigger on the deal.

 

[cdub503]

Hope not the vanilla gorilla is a beast

 

[hasoos]

Unless we're trading Joel, Greg, or LMA, I don't see any reason to pay 8-10 million a year to a backup PF who will play 12 minutes a game.

As opposed to paying Channing Frye, and continuing to have the bench unit stink it up?

 

[Blazer4life]

No thanks to Lee. Especially at $10 mil per. It still doesn't resolve our issue at point guard, and then creates a log jam up front. You can get a useful backup to LaMarcus and Greg at a MUCH cheaper price.

Like I said though, Lee would be a huge asset that would almost assure us of obtaining what we really need a top flight PG. I think you can even facilitate him in another trade and just take back a huge TE. Thats why we have guys like Tom Penn to figure this stuff out. Bottomline is if we cant get our guy one way, you have to be creative and keep your options open. Thats why I'm glad we have KP and Penn running the show.

 

[hasoos]

If Lee is headed this way, Joel is either gone and Aldridge moves over to the 5, or Aldridge is going to play the 3 more.

You know, Pritch does things in a particular way. I could see his line of thinking that Przybilla's stock is as high as it could get. Maybe now would be the time to pull the trigger on the deal.

I don't agree. There were plenty of minutes to go around for bigs last year, but a few guys ended up playing the majority of them due to certain players stinking it up. I really don't think they wanted to play Travis at PF last year when they had to. I don't believe they wanted to put Frye on the floor in many of those games. But I do believe Nate would like to have a big he could bring in with confidence. David Lee fits that bill. David Lee also brings hustle. It might be worth every bit of an 8 million dollar contract to get it here.