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I like Powe, but how many players recovering from MF surgery do we really need on this team?
 
Never said we needed or suggested we should acquire him. Simply posted he is available; and so is Anderson Varejao.

Additionally, it looks like Chris Andersen is also going to be a free agent.
 
We need a tough PF that will take up very little cap space. DeJuan Blair in the second round would've been nice... at 30-whatever, he was worth the risk. Guys like Powe, David Lee, Millsap, etc., are just silly suggestions. They deserve decent money with good playing time.
 
Deebag said:
We need a tough PF that will take up very little cap space. DeJuan Blair in the second round would've been nice... at 30-whatever, he was worth the risk. Guys like Powe, David Lee, Millsap, etc., are just silly suggestions. They deserve decent money with good playing time.
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How about Varajao?
 
Deebag said:
We need a tough PF that will take up very little cap space. DeJuan Blair in the second round would've been nice... at 30-whatever, he was worth the risk. Guys like Powe, David Lee, Millsap, etc., are just silly suggestions. They deserve decent money with good playing time.
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So would be the two larger and more athletic PFs the Blazers took in the second round.
 
One thing to think about is he might be really cheap. There is something to be said for taking a shot on a cheap player with a solid play background. I remember when the Blazers brought Steve Johnson in. He gave them a pretty good 2 years on "bad knees".
 
Powe was my number one choice for PF prior to the injury. This is a great opportunity to buy low on him. We have 2 rookies that could temporarily cover for him if he isn't back by the start of the season.
 
malarky said:
Powe was my number one choice for PF prior to the injury. This is a great opportunity to buy low on him. We have 2 rookies that could temporarily cover for him if he isn't back by the start of the season.
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The Blazers have two PFs who may be Powe clones right now. We'll see, I guess, but why sign a bench guy coming off of major surgery?
 
Nikolokolus said:
I like Powe, but how many players recovering from MF surgery do we really need on this team?
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Depends on the price. There is a good chance we will be able to get him really cheap - and these roster spots need to be filled. Might be a better buy cheap than drafting Blair in the 2nd round...
 
There's a good chance Powe doesn't even play next year.
 
andalusian said:
Depends on the price. There is a good chance we will be able to get him really cheap - and these roster spots need to be filled. Might be a better buy cheap than drafting Blair in the 2nd round...
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44Thrilla said:
There's a good chance Powe doesn't even play next year.
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This was my main point. Signing a free agent backup power forward who is likely to miss a whole year is a bad bad bad idea, especially when there are similar players available for around the same price with two good knees and ready to go from the jump.
 
Nikolokolus said:
This was my main point. Signing a free agent backup power forward who is likely to miss a whole year is a bad bad bad idea, especially when there are similar players available for around the same price with two good knees and ready to go from the jump.
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this says it all:
Reached today, Ainge said he would still be interested in signing Powe, though only after he recovers from knee surgery.
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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view/20090701powe_feels_celtics_career_over/
 
PapaG said:
The Blazers have two PFs who may be Powe clones right now. We'll see, I guess, but why sign a bench guy coming off of major surgery?
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Powe was the freshman of the year in the PAC-10 and was considered a dominant player in the league when he was healthy. He only played two seasons (with a knee injury in the middle).

Cunningham and Pendergraph were role players for their teams and relatively unimportant in their conferences for most of the four years they were there.

I guess those guys COULD do what he's done, but the odds are definitely stacked against them given their limited successes in the NCAA.

As for Powe: sounds like his knee is still pretty messed up. It's too bad, but I don't think Portland's in a position to roll the dice on him.

Ed O.
 
Now Shaun Livingston....there's someone to gamble on.
 
Ed O said:
Powe was the freshman of the year in the PAC-10 and was considered a dominant player in the league when he was healthy. He only played two seasons (with a knee injury in the middle).

Cunningham and Pendergraph were role players for their teams and relatively unimportant in their conferences for most of the four years they were there.

I guess those guys COULD do what he's done, but the odds are definitely stacked against them given their limited successes in the NCAA.

As for Powe: sounds like his knee is still pretty messed up. It's too bad, but I don't think Portland's in a position to roll the dice on him.

Ed O.
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Yes, I said they "may be" Powe clones, and I also mentioned the major surgery that Powe will be recovering from in the next year. In other words, I'm not saying either of the 2nd rounders WILL be Powe, but rather that paying him to not play next year seems unnecessary.
 
Powe is a 6ppg/4rpg player with a good PER.
 
PapaG said:
Powe is a 6ppg/4rpg player with a good PER.
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And that's after being a dominant player in the PAC-10. It just goes to show how difficult a road Cunningham and Pendergraph are going to have to make any sort of impact in the NBA.

Ed O.
 
PapaG said:
Yes, I said they "may be" Powe clones, and I also mentioned the major surgery that Powe will be recovering from in the next year. In other words, I'm not saying either of the 2nd rounders WILL be Powe, but rather that paying him to not play next year seems unnecessary.
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Gotcha. Agreed.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
Gotcha. Agreed.

Ed O.
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I'll add that after a full season with the 2nd rounders, Pritchard will have a pretty good idea if he has a decent back-up PF in one of them. I really think that Pendergraph has a shot to be the guy. Looking at his college stats, it's hard to not like what he did. He shoots a ridiculously high percentage and he also hits his FTs. Plus, he played with James Harden for two years and didn't decline in production. Also amazing to me is that he tested at the same vertical as Jordan Hill.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=26880
 
PapaG said:
I'll add that after a full season with the 2nd rounders, Pritchard will have a pretty good idea if he has a decent back-up PF in one of them. I really think that Pendergraph has a shot to be the guy. Looking at his college stats, it's hard to not like what he did. He shoots a ridiculously high percentage and he also hits his FTs. Plus, he played with James Harden for two years and didn't decline in production. Also amazing to me is that he tested at the same vertical as Jordan Hill.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=26880
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I look at the same player four years, pretty much. I'm sure he matured physically and got better at SOME level, but not impressively to me. His efficiency (scoring, turnovers/minute) got a lot better as a senior, but his blocked shots and free throw shooting went down from his junior year.

He looks like a guy that plateaued as a sophomore and those kinds of players seem unlikely to turn into real NBA players.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
I look at the same player four years, pretty much. I'm sure he matured physically and got better at SOME level, but not impressively to me. His efficiency (scoring, turnovers/minute) got a lot better as a senior, but his blocked shots and free throw shooting went down from his junior year.

He looks like a guy that plateaued as a sophomore and those kinds of players seem unlikely to turn into real NBA players.

Ed O.
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Coincidently, that's when James Harden entered ASU. Shooting 66% from the field as a senior is ridiculous, and 59% as a junior isn't shabby, and his FG% and FT% improved after his sophomore season. He's likely going to get some minutes this year, so I guess we'll be able to witness what he offers as an NBA player.
 
PapaG said:
Coincidently, that's when James Harden entered ASU. Shooting 66% from the field as a senior is ridiculous, and 59% as a junior isn't shabby, and his FG% and FT% improved after his sophomore season. He's likely going to get some minutes this year, so I guess we'll be able to witness what he offers as an NBA player.
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His FG% is very impressive, but his rebounding numbers are really not impressive for a guy who presumably rarely left the paint at either end.

We will see. Probably. First step is making the team.

Ed O.
 
Ed O said:
His FG% is very impressive, but his rebounding numbers are really not impressive for a guy who presumably rarely left the paint at either end.

We will see. Probably. First step is making the team.

Ed O.
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I watch a lot of Pac 10 hoops. Pendergraph has an excellent shot out to 15'. That's what makes his FG% all the more surprising to me. It's not like he was just dunking like Przy to give an artificial number. Pendergraph was an excellent spot-up shooter at ASU.
 
PapaG, did you watch the UW games against Brockman? I only saw the overtime one, but for being a defensive and rebounding guy, Jeff didn't fare well. He was scoring, but one of the big reasons UW won was b/c JP fouled out trying to guard Brockman.
 
BrianFromWA said:
PapaG, did you watch the UW games against Brockman? I only saw the overtime one, but for being a defensive and rebounding guy, Jeff didn't fare well. He was scoring, but one of the big reasons UW won was b/c JP fouled out trying to guard Brockman.
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He went for 24/13, 21/15, and 18/7 against Washington, losing two with one being in OT. He fouled out of the OT game, but only had two fouls in each of the other games.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=26880

Those are pretty good numbers by Pendergraph IMO. Brockman went for 10/9, 21/11, and 13/6 while accumulating 4 fouls twice and 2 fouls once against ASU.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=26870
 
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