Let's talk Aminu

[BonesJones]

Where was all the Aminu hate when he sealed the win against Boston? Where was all the hate when he upped his game in the playoffs? Check THOSE stats, kjironman not just 4 out of 18 games this season.

How is pointing out his struggles "hate"? Don't misclassify it.

He referenced Aminus numbers on the season being down. You're the one using single game samples and stats from small samples from different seasons.

 

[oldmangrouch]

Yup. This forum overrated the hell out of him after the first few games. He is exactly what I thought he was. Loose with the ball, bad finisher, bad mid-range shooter, and not a good enough 3pt shooter to make up for it.

I will say this - Stauskas is playing like he always has, while Curry is not the player he has been in the past. My inclination is just to ignore Stauskas and be disappointed in Curry. I know some fans are satisfied and actually worried about re-signing them, but I would rather just invest some time in grooming Trent and Simons.

 

[H.C.]

Yup. This forum overrated the hell out of him after the first few games. He is exactly what I thought he was. Loose with the ball, bad finisher, bad mid-range shooter, and not a good enough 3pt shooter to make up for it.

I have very little expectations out of Sauce.
I was actually decently happy he made a defensive play without fouling against the Bucks or Knicks idr which team.
He spaces the floor and has the ability to put the ball on the floor and make a play.
I just wish he was stronger with the ball so he wouldn't get knocked off angles so easily.

Who knows maybe he's actually really strong, but just has that Nards mindset.

 

[swish3]

Seth has played well for the Blazers shooting 50% of his swish3s, 3 of 3 for FT, although he needs to up his numbers of assists, rebounds, and steals. When he has returned from injury, I would play him before Gary or Simons. Let's try Seth and see if he can add to Blazer scoring off the bench.

 

[Strenuus]

Love ya, KS, but I'm gonna merge this with the aminu thread. It's much too similar and belongs in the aminu thread.

 

[BonesJones]

I will say this - Stauskas is playing like he always has, while Curry is not the player he has been in the past. My inclination is just to ignore Stauskas and be disappointed in Curry. I know some fans are satisfied and actually worried about re-signing them, but I would rather just invest some time in grooming Trent and Simons.

Currys 3pt shooting has been phenominal. His 2pt shooting has been awful and it'll improve.

 

[James lamphear]

Relax people this was a tough road trip any wins are good wins. Yea we got blown out against the Bucks but I seen a lot great teams get blown out in the pass but they all bounce back. We got one more game against a team that has struggled at late the warriors. Will it be easy no but dual able. This what I like about Aminu the guy always plays hard no Matter if he making shots or not. But eventually he will be replaced by Zach but I don't think this year is the year.

 

[TBpup]

Seth has played well for the Blazers shooting 50% of his swish3s, 3 of 3 for FT, although he needs to up his numbers of assists, rebounds, and steals. When he has returned from injury, I would play him before Gary or Simons. Let's try Seth and see if he can add to Blazer scoring off the bench.

Seth is shooting it well from '3'....but as per his career, is already injured. Certainly a threat when he is able to be on the floor.

 

[kjironman1]

Aminu's career regular season numbers are nothing too exciting:

7.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.2 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.6 bpg, 42% from the field, 33% from three point line

But NOW, let's talk Playoff Aminu. It's a pretty big sample size. He's played in 24 playoff games and here's what he's done:

13.9 ppg, 8.0 rpg, 1.5 apg, 1.0 spg, 1.0 bpg, 55% from the field, 43% from three point line

What contender wouldn't want to have a player like that who steps up for the big games?

If you're wondering what has he done for us lately, he was fantastic in the 2018 playoffs:

17.3 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 52% from the field, 43% from the three point line

But by all means, bash him for having a few bad games in November. I can't think of one contender in the NBA who wouldn't want Aminu on their roster. He would immediately be the 5th best player on the Warriors. Maybe 4th, the way Klay has been playing this year.

And the team has lost 8 straight playoff games. Because the other team doesn't even try to guard him. Check Mate!

 

[dviss1]

Yup. This forum overrated the hell out of him after the first few games. He is exactly what I thought he was. Loose with the ball, bad finisher, bad mid-range shooter, and not a good enough 3pt shooter to make up for it.

 

[swish3]

Chief has a few statistics that show his value, starting with the 18 steals he has this year. That is 4 more steals than any other Blazer. Surprisingly, Chief has 127 defensive rebounds, which is 7 more than Nurk has. Chief has played excellent defense against toughest assignments and remained resilient. He deserves credit and encouragement.

 

[kjironman1]

Chief has a few statistics that show his value, starting with the 18 steals he has this year. That is 4 more steals than any other Blazer. Surprisingly, Chief has 127 defensive rebounds, which is 7 more than Nurk has. Chief has played excellent defense against toughest assignments and remained resilient. He deserves credit and encouragement.

No question his defense deserves recognition. He always draws the toughest assignment. So that alone should speak volumes. But his offensive issues far outweigh his defensive value. This year is almost an exact blueprint for what happened last year and the year before. He starts out fairly well and then drops off and eventually becomes what he is.

 

[TBpup]

Chief has a few statistics that show his value, starting with the 18 steals he has this year. That is 4 more steals than any other Blazer. Surprisingly, Chief has 127 defensive rebounds, which is 7 more than Nurk has. Chief has played excellent defense against toughest assignments and remained resilient. He deserves credit and encouragement.

Agreed....those are very solid. It's just that they are well balanced out with his inability to dribble above a junior high level, is not a good passer, and still has a shot resembling a mid-evil catapult.

 

[dviss1]

Every team needs that one player they can deploy on defense a la Scottie Pippen.

Take away Aminu and who becomes that player for us?

Harkless? Turner?

 

[Hobbesarable]

And the team has lost 8 straight playoff games. Because the other team doesn't even try to guard him. Check Mate!

Now I have to post a hearty :$hobbs$: big laugh for that response!

 

[dviss1]

Now I have to post a hearty big laugh for that response!

FTFY

 

[Hobbesarable]

FTFY

Did you remove the $ signs from :$hobbs$: to fix it, buddy?

 

[dviss1]

Did you remove the $ signs from :$hobbs$: to fix it, buddy?

 

[kjironman1]

Every team needs that one player they can deploy on defense a la Scottie Pippen.

Take away Aminu and who becomes that player for us?

Harkless? Turner?

C'mon.... You are not going to try and put Aminu in the same league as Pippin now are you? If teams disrespected Pippin like they do Aminu in games at the 3 point line he would destroy them. Not just talking three point shooting. I'm talking putting the ball on the floor and destroying them on a drive!

 

[dviss1]

C'mon.... You are not going to try and put Aminu in the same league as Pippin now are you? If teams disrespected Pippin like they do Aminu in games at the 3 point line he would destroy them. Not just talking three point shooting. I'm talking putting the ball on the floor and destroying them on a drive!

When people do shit like this it gets in my nerves...

First, it's Pippen... 2nd,

What was Pippen's role defensively?

To guard the best offensive player.

That's all I'm saying. I'm talking about DEFENSE. WTF are you talking about?

Stop taking this somewhere it wasn't going.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Aminu is a fine player but he has no business starting on a competitive team. He's a utility player and always has been. Stotts needs to bring him off the bench and start Collins. Stop holding onto what's safe and comfortable.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Pat Con has pretty much been the exact same player but with a little better shooting percentage. Both giving about 17-18 mins a game but Pat has a little higher overall Per at 17.2 and Staukas sitting at 12. Both have a pretty comparable win share.
The Blazers should have kept Pat Con in my opinion.

Re: Connaughton:
https://fansided.com/2018/11/23/whiteboard-milwaukee-bucks-black-friday-deals/
I must say letting Connaughton go surprised me almost as much as Ed Davis going. We'd hung on to him through years of him looking useless and he was finally looking productive!

 

[Hobbesarable]

When people do shit like this it gets in my nerves...

First, it's Pippen... 2nd,

What was Pippen's role defensively?

To guard the best offensive player.

That's all I'm saying. I'm talking about DEFENSE. WTF are you talking about?

Stop taking this somewhere it wasn't going.

FWIW, I thought it was clear since you referenced "defense" in your post.

 

[KingSpeed]

How is pointing out his struggles "hate"? Don't misclassify it.

He referenced Aminus numbers on the season being down. You're the one using single game samples and stats from small samples from different seasons.

Read through the thread. "Aminu sucks" and "Aminu doesn't belong on a contender" is hate.

 

[KingSpeed]

And the team has lost 8 straight playoff games. Because the other team doesn't even try to guard him. Check Mate!

Is it Aminu's fault we've lost (10, actually) straight playoff games? He's the one playing well. He makes the other team pay. We need the other guys to step up. Aminu isn't the problem. "Checkmate" is classic by the way. Good times.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Is it Aminu's fault we've lost (10, actually) straight playoff games? He's the one playing well. He makes the other team pay. We need the other guys to step up. Aminu isn't the problem. "Checkmate" is classic by the way. Good times.

He’s the only one “playing well” because literally he’s not being guarded in the playoffs. Was he good in the playoffs? Yes. Its basically because Golden State and NO knows he cant beat them though, they know they can not guard him and win and so far theyve been proven right. I dont hate Aminu I think he can be a good role player on a championship team, but I definitely think at either SF or PF the Blazers need an upgrade to the starting unit in order to be a contender. You cant have two forwards that dont garner any respect at all from the opponent.

 

[kjironman1]

When people do shit like this it gets in my nerves...

First, it's Pippen... 2nd,

What was Pippen's role defensively?

To guard the best offensive player.

That's all I'm saying. I'm talking about DEFENSE. WTF are you talking about?

Stop taking this somewhere it wasn't going.

Sure. Whatever.

 

[kjironman1]

FWIW, I thought it was clear since you referenced "defense" in your post.

The entire conversation has been about his offense so there is that I guess.

 

[dviss1]

Sure. Whatever.

Literally the same thing my ex wife would say when she was wrong.

 

[kjironman1]

Read through the thread. "Aminu sucks" and "Aminu doesn't belong on a contender" is hate.

Nobody anywhere said they “Hate” Aminu. Certainly not I. Dude gives everything every game and for that alone deserves nothing but respect. It’s his offense that has people feeling he should not be a starter on a contender. That is all.