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He can't be in a lineup with Turner. And it's even worse when those two are combined with Leonard. Dame/CJ go against all five defenders in these scenarios with defenses not even bothering to feign attention at the other three. And last night was yet another instance of him failing to use his brain on defense at the end of a game. His offensive rebounding and hustling or whatever is great, but we need a better talent out there for 30 mpg.

Fuck it, just go after Blake Griffin. I'm sure Detroit will let go of him for picks and salary dump.
 
twobullz said:
What are they going do do the 20 plus games a year Love is hurt? At least you can count on Aminu. Love you can only count on one thing and that is he will miss a large part of the season.
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Either way Aminu will be a free agent this summer. How much are you willing to pay him? You could always trade him and resign him for the Vets minimum.
 
BonesJones said:
82-game samples > 4-game samples
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35% over 4 seasons with the Blazers is not great but not terrible either for a good hustle & defensive player. Basically as good as Jokic' threes which are a sufficient threat for him. Aminu has the 3rd highest adjusted +/- on the Blazers over the past four seasons which IMO makes him the 3rd best player on the Blazers. The fact that he is so underrated makes him cheap too.
 
I also don't want Kevin Love if it means trading CJ. We need Zach to develop into that role.
 
It's just ridiculous that Neil sold Aminu as a stopgap, and we still haven't upgraded from him. How has it been four years since Aldridge left and the only big salary replacement on the roster is Evan freaking Turner?
 
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yuyuza1 said:
It's just ridiculous that Neil sold Aminu as a stopgap, and we still haven't upgraded from him. How has it been four years Aldridge left and the only big salary replacement on the roster is Evan freaking Turner?
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I really wonder what would have happened if the Nets hadn't been stupid enough to trade for Crabbe. Maybe Olshey would have been fired so some good would have come from it
 
yuyuza1 said:
It's just ridiculous that Neil sold Aminu as a stopgap, and we still haven't upgraded from him. How has it been four years Aldridge left and the only big salary replacement on the roster is Evan freaking Turner?
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"What are you talking about? Aminu and Turner are amazing players that deserve max contracts for all their contributions. They will be Blazers for the rest of their career."
-Neil Olshey
 
hoopsjock said:
"What are you talking about? Aminu and Turner are amazing players that deserve max contracts for all their contributions. They will be Blazers for the rest of their career."
-Neil Olshey
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link??? :bgrin:
 
bobf said:
35% over 4 seasons with the Blazers is not great but not terrible either for a good hustle & defensive player. Basically as good as Jokic' threes which are a sufficient threat for him. Aminu has the 3rd highest adjusted +/- on the Blazers over the past four seasons which IMO makes him the 3rd best player on the Blazers. The fact that he is so underrated makes him cheap too.
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Yeah, i'm not arguing that.
 
Reep said:
Is the question really if we should play ET instead of AFA? I don't disagree with your plus minus analysis, but most years, that puts Aminu in the 12-17 ranking of power forwards. I think most of us would like to see someone who might crack the top half more routinely. Maybe even take some painful losses by playing someone who might end up in the top half a year or so from now. Aminu won't likely do that.

For this year (unscientific)
1 Anthony Davis NO 16 37.4 2.79 3.00 5.79 3.59
2 Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 18 33.4 2.23 2.31 4.54 3.10
3 Pascal Siakam TOR 21 29.1 2.01 2.32 4.33 3.02
4 Nemanja Bjelica SAC 20 24.6 1.31 2.75 4.06 2.33
5 Domantas Sabonis IND 18 24.7 1.46 1.78 3.24 1.74
6 Dwight Powell DAL 15 15.9 0.68 2.54 3.22 0.95
7 Paul Millsap DEN 20 26.5 0.22 2.85 3.07 2.06
8 Montrezl Harrell LAC 19 25.6 1.53 1.40 2.93 1.87
9 Mason Plumlee DEN 20 17.0 -0.21 3.09 2.88 1.24
10 Noah Vonleh NY 21 25.2 0.01 2.78 2.79 2.02
11 Blake Griffin DET 17 36.3 1.66 0.86 2.52 2.22
12 Nikola Mirotic NO 18 31.5 1.97 0.34 2.31 2.13
13 Draymond Green GS 13 30.5 -0.96 2.75 1.79 1.25
14 Serge Ibaka TOR 20 26.6 -0.10 1.70 1.60 1.65
15 Taj Gibson MIN 20 26.4 0.38 1.21 1.59 1.59
16 Ed Davis BKN 21 17.0 -0.42 1.91 1.49 0.97
17 Derrick Favors UTAH 19 23.1 -0.27 1.66 1.39 1.29
18 Swish3 POR 17 12.3 0.31 0.98 1.29 0.54
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What are the column headings? I can't make head or tail of it. The context was the last 5 years of ESPN adjusted +/-. Nice touch in the last line's font.
 
Did you guys know Aminu is 4th on the team in TS% at 58.1%? Right behind Dame and ahead of guys like Nurk and CJ.

Yeah his usage is really limited, but it's always been limited and he has never cracked 53% before.

He's quietly putting up his best season.
 
B-Roy said:
Did you guys know Aminu is 4th on the team in TS% at 58.1%? Right behind Dame and ahead of guys like Nurk and CJ.

Yeah his usage is really limited, but it's always been limited and he has never cracked 53% before.

He's quietly putting up his best season.
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Yes and that’s not a fluke that his TS% is up so much from prior years. Look at his shot selection. He’s taking way more from 0-3 ft and getting fouled a lot as a result.

Anyone who puts Aminu and Turner in the same category is clueless. He’s easily our third best player. He’s the kind of player that gets more and more valuable as your team gets better as he doesn’t need the bell to be good.
 
bobf said:
Yes and that’s not a fluke that his TS% is up so much from prior years. Look at his shot selection. He’s taking way more from 0-3 ft and getting fouled a lot as a result.

Anyone who puts Aminu and Turner in the same category is clueless. He’s easily our third best player. He’s the kind of player that gets more and more valuable as your team gets better as he doesn’t need the bell to be good.
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I am frustrated with CJ as much as anyone else, but I would still put him ahead of Aminu....
 
bobf said:
Yes and that’s not a fluke that his TS% is up so much from prior years. Look at his shot selection. He’s taking way more from 0-3 ft and getting fouled a lot as a result.

Anyone who puts Aminu and Turner in the same category is clueless. He’s easily our third best player. He’s the kind of player that gets more and more valuable as your team gets better as he doesn’t need the bell to be good.
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I was gonna say. Kanter might also be better overall...
 
I like Chief a lot, but I've got to disagree with people who put him about CJ or high above Evan Turner.

Aminu's a very solid all-around player, but I think the three most valuable skills in pro basketball are shot creation/scoring, ballhandling. and rim protection. He's below average on the first two and average at best at the third.

CJ has a rare skill in his ability to create GOOD scoring opportunities for himself. I think he's a better all-around player than he gets credit for, but his ability to create space and get good looks is probably the single most-desired and rarest trait for a pro basketball player.

Evan has a niche on this team. Other than Dame, there really isn't someone who can facilitate offense above average the way Turner can. CJ and Curry really are 2 guards at worst and combos better suited to score at best. Turner has a defined role as a gack-up PG. He also can guard bigger guards and he can score inside; we don't have another perimeter player who offers that. He's also tough-minded and kind of a quirky fit who I think adds chemistry in a lot of ways. I think most good teams in the NBA would like to have him or a player like him, just not at what Olshey paid to get him.

We have problems with CJ and Evan's salaries and get more focused on who they aren't rather than what they are. They are good, valuable pieces to a contending team.

Look on most of the other good teams in this league and you will find an Aminu. If Jae Crowder was playing for us instead of Chief, would we notice much of a difference? What about OG from Toronto?

That said, I am happy with Aminu, but I also recognize that's probably the position that we could most easily upgrade.
 
B-Roy said:
Did you guys know Aminu is 4th on the team in TS% at 58.1%? Right behind Dame and ahead of guys like Nurk and CJ.

Yeah his usage is really limited, but it's always been limited and he has never cracked 53% before.

He's quietly putting up his best season.
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Contract year.
 
Orion Bailey said:
This may be true for some players in the league, but Aminu is not the type that seems to play for Money. He does a ton of charity work for his country and I think gives 100% effort all the time. I dont think he has that type of mindset.
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I agree. What sets Aminu apart from someone like Harkless (or Batum) is his motor. There are plenty of guys who *at their best* are better than Aminu - but you don't see their best on any kind of regular basis. Even when Aminu is struggling, the problem is never lack of effort.
 
Orion Bailey said:
This may be true for some players in the league, but Aminu is not the type that seems to play for Money. He does a ton of charity work for his country and I think gives 100% effort all the time. I dont think he has that type of mindset.
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He was born in the US
 
Orion Bailey said:
This may be true for some players in the league, but Aminu is not the type that seems to play for Money. He does a ton of charity work for his country and I think gives 100% effort all the time. I dont think he has that type of mindset.
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He might not be playing for money but he still playing for a contract. The money part is what a team willing to pay for that contract.
 
Chief won’t be here next year, I honestly think another summer of hitting the gym and working on his post up game and Zach starts next year. I fully expect a Nurk/Zach/Layman starting frontcourt next season.
 
I don’t think Chief/Curry/Hark/Leonard/Kanter are here at this time next season.
 
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