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barfo said:
Back in 2000, Trump knew who David Duke was. The entire article is pretty interesting.
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Before six months ago, Mr. Trump had never shown any interest in electoral politics, instead building a large reputation as a developer, casino operator and, by his own boast, skilled publicity seeker and accomplished womanizer.

The new interim head of the Reform Party, Pat Choate, described Mr. Trump as a "hustler" last night, and said he had never believed that Mr. Trump had any interest beyond promoting himself and a new book that happened to be published at exactly the time he started his light schedule of campaign travel.

"Donald Trump came in, promoted his hotels, he promoted his book, he promoted himself at our expense, and I think he understands very fully that we've ended the possibilities for such abuse of our party," Mr. Choate said. "We're taking our party back to our very principles, and exploiters such as Donald Trump will not be able to exploit us again -- and he realizes it."

"We saw no evidence that he was a serious candidate at all," Mr. Choate said. "All this was, was a serious hustle of the media, and I think the media should send him a massive bill on it."

...Mr. Trump painted a fairly dark picture of the Reform Party in his statement, noting the role of Mr. Buchanan, along with the roles of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, and Lenora Fulani, the former standard-bearer of the New Alliance Party and an advocate of Marxist-Leninist politics.

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," he said in his statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."
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Hypothetically, if when told that David Duke supported him, Drumpf would have said, "I don't support him or the KKK's racist viewpoints, but his constitutionally-protected right to free speech guarantees him the ability to support and vote for whomever he so chooses," does anyone think that would have been considered a tacit acceptance of racism?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Hypothetically, if when told that David Duke supported him, Drumpf would have said, "I don't support him or the KKK's racist viewpoints, but his constitutionally-protected right to free speech guarantees him the ability to support and vote for whomever he so chooses," does anyone think that would have been considered a tacit acceptance of racism?
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I'd say that would have been a good answer and would have resolved the matter.

barfo
 
More from that link.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...supremacist-who-endorsed-donald-trump-n528141

"David Duke still portrays himself as a white nationalist hero, but the fact is he hasn't done anything political in years," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a watchdog group that monitors racist groups. "Duke's having a moment in the news now, and he needs this. In the white supremacist world, he's seen as an opportunist, someone who is living off the movement."

Marilyn Mayo of the Anti-Defamation League, which has also kept close tabs on Duke for many years, said Trump has done something Duke has been unable to do, which is "energize the white supremacist movement."

"They don't see Trump as a white nationalist, but he is mainstreaming some of the issues they hold dear, like keeping Mexicans and Muslims out of the country," said Mayo. "He's become a voice for some of their views."

(I agree with all that)
 
Denny Crane said:
Trump as a white nationalist
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Denny Crane said:
(I agree with all that)
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That is bullshit Denny. It is your failure to understand that is showing. Many Hispanics agree with Trump and immigration law enforcement.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ics-rubio-bush-trump-1019-20151018-story.html

Hell the American Hispanics are probably hurt more by the illegals than most.

Then around 70% of Americans agree with Trump's position on the Muslims, but I will let you look that up.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So, if the KKK holds or agrees with any position, it is automatically wrong?
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Of course not.

They might like lower taxes. That's not a bad thing.

They might like ObamaCare (for whites only!). that's not a good thing for anyone :)
 
Denny Crane said:
Of course not.

They might like lower taxes. That's not a bad thing.

They might like ObamaCare (for white sonly!). that's not a good thing.
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So why is it relevant to point out that the KKK would agree with Drumpf's position on Muslims?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
So why is it relevant to point out that the KKK would agree with Drumpf's position on Muslims?
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Lots of people endorse any of the candidates. Too many for them to know each and every one. If Drumpf's position on Muslims attracts the KKK (it does), then it does.

It's HIS position. HE attracts the KKK. It really is up to him to renounce them.

This is not atypical of campaigns. Lots of them have the worst of society donate or endorse them. In many cases, democrats are involved:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/po...gn-donation/FcSKxu1VIr7pubg9cI3CQN/story.html

Bernie Sanders rejects donation from drug company CEO
 
Denny Crane said:
I suppose he meets lots of people and hears about lots of people. Duke was in the news at the time due to the reform party being in the news. It's been 16 years since, and there's no reason to remember Duke if you don't care much about politics.

I don't think he was saying he knows nothing about white supremacy. He knows nothing about them endorsing or supporting his candidacy. That's lie #2 on your part, barfo.

I don't think Trump necessarily followed politics all along. That's lie #3. You want me to keep score? That's like 4 now.
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No, Duke was on TV a lot, long before he ran for President in 2000. The 80s. Plus, if you ever looked at a Nazi newspaper, his picture was all over it, 80s and 90s.

He's been the most famous neo-Nazi or KKKer since 1980. And Barfo's article, which I quoted, proves that Trump knew all about Duke by 2000. So give up feigning Trump's fake ignorance about Duke.
 
jlprk said:
No, Duke was on TV a lot, long before he ran for President in 2000. The 80s. Plus, if you ever looked at a Nazi newspaper, his picture was all over it, 80s and 90s.

He's been the most famous neo-Nazi or KKKer since 1980. And Barfo's article, which I quoted, proves that Trump knew all about Duke by 2000. So give up feigning Trump's fake ignorance about Duke.
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Look at the quotes.

Trump says he doesn't know Duke, never met him, etc. That's what he said.

Whenever asked ABOUT Dukkke, he's said, "This is not company I wish to keep." Not good enough? Seems good enough to me.

And I got that quote from your post. Maybe you didn't read it?
 
"I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists (endorsing me). So I don't know. I don't know—did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke (endorsing me); I know nothing about white supremacists (endorsing me)."

That's how it reads and sounded.
 
Denny Crane said:
"I don't know anything about what you're even talking about with white supremacy or white supremacists (endorsing me). So I don't know. I don't know—did he endorse me, or what's going on? Because I know nothing about David Duke (endorsing me); I know nothing about white supremacists (endorsing me)."

That's how it reads and sounded.
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Nice try with the parenthetical revisionist history, but that's not what he said. He lied that he knows nothing about Duke.
 
jlprk said:
Nice try with the parenthetical revisionist history, but that's not what he said. He lied that he knows nothing about Duke.
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He was asked about Dukkke endorsing him. He answered what he knew about Dukkke endorsing him.

When asked about this endorsement and by other racist groups, he asked for a list of those the reporter found questionable.

When asked about Dukke (not his endorsement), what did he say? I quoted your post already and provided a tweet where he rejected the endorsement. What more do you want him to do?
 
Denny Crane said:
He was asked about Dukkke endorsing him. He answered what he knew about Dukkke endorsing him.

When asked about this endorsement and by other racist groups, he asked for a list of those the reporter found questionable.

When asked about Dukke (not his endorsement), what did he say? I quoted your post already and provided a tweet where he rejected the endorsement. What more do you want him to do?
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Is that how you word it when you admit that he knew perfectly well who David Duke is? You're better at a coverup than Trump is. He never admits that he made a mistake, just moves the goalpost and claims he meant something else.
 
jlprk said:
Is that how you word it when you admit that he knew perfectly well who David Duke is? You're better at a coverup than Trump is. He never admits that he made a mistake, just moves the goalpost and claims he meant something else.
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He knows who Barak Obama is. He would act just as surprised if he endorsed Trump.

The facts and his words in this case do fit together just fine.

There are plenty of legitimate issues with Trump. I suggest you focus on them.

You seem distubed Trump is Teflon(tm).

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