Libertarianism and Conservatism vs. Liberalism and Progressivism

[Denny Crane]

I'm sorry, next time make your question more clear. Different people mean different things by the phrase "government program".

Am I in favor of abolishing any three-letter government agency? I'll have to go look at the list to see.

What's FDR? Was he president so long that he turned into a federal agency?

barfo

Yep, I am pretty sure FDR is seen by many as a federal agency if not a deity.

 

[Denny Crane]

Oh, I'm sorry, but some of those aren't "programs", so they don't count.

barfo

I didn't call them programs. I don't like a single government "program."

 

[barfo]

I didn't call them programs. I don't like a single government "program."

So you get to name "things government does" that you like, but I have to name government "programs" that I don't like? Some sort of a double standard here. I'm calling a technical foul and ejecting you from the thread.

barfo

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

I think this thread has shown that labels are pretty much useless. They're supposed to be used as short-hand to let someone know where you generally stand, but instead they're used like nails to pin you to the most ridiculous positions of the fringe of those that would share the same label as you.

This.

 

[Denny Crane]

So you get to name "things government does" that you like, but I have to name government "programs" that I don't like? Some sort of a double standard here. I'm calling a technical foul and ejecting you from the thread.

barfo

You listed things the government does that you don't like, so I followed in kind.

 

[MrJayremmie]

I think this thread has shown that labels are pretty much useless. They're supposed to be used as short-hand to let someone know where you generally stand, but instead they're used like nails to pin you to the most ridiculous positions of the fringe of those that would share the same label as you.

Don't disagree with this, Maxiep. Solid post.

Nope. Libertarian all the time.

If right-wing means "anarchy" then I'm not all the way right-wing.

But didn't you want to invade Iraq to clean up a mess we made? That was not Libertarian, was it? So then doesn't that invalidate this post I quoted.

 

[Denny Crane]

Don't disagree with this, Maxiep. Solid post.


But didn't you want to invade Iraq to clean up a mess we made? That was not Libertarian, was it? So then doesn't that invalidate this post I quoted.

I didn't want to invade Iraq, I wanted to take out Saddam. Like mafia hit. It was the only way I could see to end the interference that was ongoing - in a reasonable manner.

To be at war with a country like Iraq would mean being at war with all of Iraq, including it's citizens.

Not even Bush or anyone in that administration wanted that kind of action.

 

[maxiep]

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/03/polling-101-last-class-you-cant-learn.html

 

[jlprk]

Here ya go, maxiep. A libertarian argument against (alcohol then, drug now) prohibition from before 1910, when the feminists were pushing it.

http://www.blupete.com/Literature/Essays/Best/SumnerForgotten.htm