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I don't like the idea of technicals for flops. They already can't get the calls right on flops, now we're going to give them the power to fuck more shit up? It ain't going to be the hardens and the Pauls of the league getting those Technicals.
Refs need to be the ones to get the fines for falling for the flops. Hitting their much smaller paychecks will make a bigger difference, imo.
 
The flop has been coached in the NBA forever..a lot of basketball historians cite Jerry Sloan as a player the original master of the flop. Baseball players have a flop move at the plate to influence the way inside curve balls are called by an umpire, they often fall down or jump away because an inside curve isn't a desirable pitch to swing away at..these are the tactics in sports. Football defensive linemen have a lot of moves to draw offsides calls from offensive linemen. The flop won't go away anytime soon.
 
Each team needs a goon to lay out the notorious floppers like Harden and Paul. Early in his career RoLo was a solid NBA goon:

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Fez Hammersticks said:
Each team needs a goon to lay out the notorious floppers like Harden and Paul. Early in his career RoLo was a solid NBA goon:
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Hell yes!
Bring back the days of the enforcer. If they want to flop - give them a reason/helping hand with the flop.

Next time against Houston and 'The Beard' flops, we really need Biebs Leonard to sit ontop of Harden, centre court, and trim his beard off.
De-Beard him 'Samson' style.
 
WillG said:
Hell yes!
Bring back the days of the enforcer. If they want to flop - give them a reason/helping hand with the flop.

Next time against Houston and 'The Beard' flops, we really need Biebs Leonard to sit ontop of Harden, centre court, and trim his beard off.
De-Beard him 'Samson' style.
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That would expose Harden as the chinless wonder that he really is
 
Fines don't deter millionaires from flopping. Accountability of the officials does. Does the death penalty stop murder? Hell fucking no....
 
RR7 said:
I don't like the idea of technicals for flops. They already can't get the calls right on flops, now we're going to give them the power to fuck more shit up? It ain't going to be the hardens and the Pauls of the league getting those Technicals.
Refs need to be the ones to get the fines for falling for the flops. Hitting their much smaller paychecks will make a bigger difference, imo.
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As a ref who referees over 250 games per year. I'd love to see techs for flops. I tell kids all the time "get up and stop flopping". Or I just look at them on the ground and keep running. Ask yourself this people:

Why is the NBA the only level where flopping is prevalent? How come we don't see it much or at all at the College and High School level?

Simple answer: The flop is rewarded in the NBA (with a whistle from an out of position referee) whereas it is not in College or High School.
 
Bring back hand checking, that'll change the way you can defend an opponent
 
Flopping is an personal admission that you lack sufficient talent/skills to compete with your opponent in a fair match.
 
MARIS61 said:
Flopping is an personal admission that you lack sufficient talent/skills to compete with your opponent in a fair match.
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Sometimes but more often than not, it's a trick to get a good player in foul trouble and create a turnover
 
dviss1 said:
As a ref who referees over 250 games per year. I'd love to see techs for flops. I tell kids all the time "get up and stop flopping". Or I just look at them on the ground and keep running. Ask yourself this people:

Why is the NBA the only level where flopping is prevalent? How come we don't see it much or at all at the College and High School level?

Simple answer: The flop is rewarded in the NBA (with a whistle from an out of position referee) whereas it is not in College or High School.
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The worse part is NBA refs KNOW the known floppers around the league and continue to let them do it.

The NBA is corrupt so it's not hard to understand but I honestly believe it's ruining the integrity of the game (flopping) and inflating box scores to make things look bigger.
 
dviss1 said:
As a ref who referees over 250 games per year. I'd love to see techs for flops. I tell kids all the time "get up and stop flopping". Or I just look at them on the ground and keep running.
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Not all NBA refs buy into the culture of flopping. I have a friend who is a long time NBA official, one of the best IMHO. When I first met him, Vlade Divac was one of the most notorious floppers in the league. When I asked my friend about it, he said he wouldn't reward Vlade (or anyone else) for flopping. His exact words were, "I'm not going to do Vlade Divac's job for him".

BNM
 
The Number One Flopper of ALL TIME is Karl Malone
 
stampedehero said:
The Number One Flopper of ALL TIME is Karl Malone
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So true. At least, until Harden came along. Same M.O. though. Malone used to crash into the defender, make the bank shot falling down, and get the free throw. He also started his career a lousy free throw shooter, but became a good example of "practice makes perfect".
 
BBert said:
So true. At least, until Harden came along. Same M.O. though. Malone used to crash into the defender, make the bank shot falling down, and get the free throw. He also started his career a lousy free throw shooter, but became a good example of "practice makes perfect".
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> I wonder what did he actually say to himself when he was preparing to shoot one of those bullshit foul shots.
Side Notes; One of his hobbies was collecting exotically painted tractor trailer cabs. He never worked for the esteemed postal service.
 
stampedehero said:
> I wonder what did he actually say to himself when he was preparing to shoot one of those bullshit foul shots.
Side Notes; One of his hobbies was collecting exotically painted tractor trailer cabs.
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...and abandoning his children.
 
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