Lil Jon?s Bling Sets Guinness World Record

[umair]

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm just saying you can't expect all people to act moral, unselfish, or compassionate. Even when they should be. It's just naive to expect that.</div>

Yeah, but it feels bad to see people who are capable of donating a lot of money keep it for themselves which is selfish. People who have the money should donate to the ones who don't.

 

[Chutney]

I don't disagree with that. Of course people should.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Sure, but I figured a guy like NTC could understand the basic human principle of charity.</div>

I dont believe in giving to charity.

I work hard for my money, I have my own needs to look out for, without worrying about paying for some one elses way aswell. If I ever get to the point in life, where I've accumulated millions of dollars, it will be because of working hard for it. Life is short, you never know what will happen next, if I ever accumulate such wealth, I want to enjoy it, even if that means buying 50 cars i'll never drive, not just give it away for nothing.

 

[Chutney]

I never really understood that phrase. Life isn't short. It's long enough for most us to waste our time doing nothing productive at all.

 

[Mr. J]

Why can't people buy material things and help someone at the same time? Take Marbury for example. He does a lot for the community and wears an expensive chain/jewelry.

 

[Sasha]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont believe in giving to charity.

I work hard for my money, I have my own needs to look out for, without worrying about paying for some one elses way aswell. If I ever get to the point in life, where I've accumulated millions of dollars, it will be because of working hard for it. Life is short, you never know what will happen next, if I ever accumulate such wealth, I want to enjoy it, even if that means buying 50 cars i'll never drive, not just give it away for nothing.</div>
So, you're greedy, materialistic, and in full control of the hot air balloon that is your ego then?

Your own needs? What are your needs that even with millions of dollars you couldn't accommodate them. I hate selfishness, I hate the betrayal of unity. It's what we are put on this earth to do, unite and understand and evolve. With your reasoning we are doing the exact opposite. You keep feeding yourself to yourself and one day you'll implode and wonder where it all went, then you'll truly say "Life is short."

 

[bbwSwish]

I agree with Sasha, that's a really selfish thing to do. Sure you worked hard for your money but there are some people out there who aren't capable of working and making tons of money. Take a disabled person for instance. If they are struggling finiancially because they can't get hired for a big time job, wouldn't you help them out? If you had millions of dollars and 50 cars you didn't drive, why not give some of that money or some of those cars to a poor person? Honestly, I will feel better making 100 poor people financially stable and happy with their lives rather than having 50 cars that collect dust in your mansion's garage.

Also, if life is so short, why are you wasting time posting on a forum rather than skydiving or something like that.

 

[igotask8board]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If I was rich, I wouldnt give anything to charity, life is short, I'd rather enjoy myself with the money I have.</div>

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont believe in giving to charity.

I work hard for my money, I have my own needs to look out for, without worrying about paying for some one elses way aswell. If I ever get to the point in life, where I've accumulated millions of dollars, it will be because of working hard for it. Life is short, you never know what will happen next, if I ever accumulate such wealth, I want to enjoy it, even if that means buying 50 cars i'll never drive, not just give it away for nothing.</div>

That's cool and all, but the government gives huge tax benefits by scraping whatever you donate to charity off the tax books (not sure if there's a limit.) Congress could pass out million dollar checks left and right to charity, but with all the tax benefits given to those who donate, they don't need to - and don't period.

So you can either donate your money to those you think deserve it most, or just give it back to government. You decide.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Take a disabled person for instance. If they are struggling finiancially because they can't get hired for a big time job, wouldn't you help them out?</div>

I pay enough in taxes as it is for people such as those who are disabled and recieve a government disability pension, why should I be forced into giving more?

<div class="quote_poster">Swish Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">If you had millions of dollars and 50 cars you didn't drive, why not give some of that money or some of those cars to a poor person?</div>

Why should I? What have these people done for me? Why should I give away my hard earned money, that I've gone out and worked for, to people, who in most cases, made poor decisions in their lives and ended up in those situations because of their own stupidity? (i.e abusing drugs, alcohol, getting pregnant at an early age etc.)

<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">So, you're greedy, materialistic, and in full control of the hot air balloon that is your ego then?</div>

Sasha, you dont know me, you dont know the kind of person I am, I am far from what you described above. I enjoy helping people out, infact thats one of the main reasons why I am planning to become a Police Officer, to help people out, I just dont believe in giving somthing away for nothing, especially somthing I put in hardwork, get underpaid and cheated out of (oh right, the taxes, the finger thing means the taxes [/Simpsons Quote]) to earn.

 

[igotask8board]

Damn Darwinists.

 

[Pakman]

<div class="quote_poster">MrJ Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why can't people buy material things and help someone at the same time? Take Marbury for example. He does a lot for the community and wears an expensive chain/jewelry.</div>

Yeah, thats the way I would be. Be rich, enjoy life .. live luxurious but also give at the same time. I wasn't serious about the "i'd go for something twice as bigger as lil Jon though

." Charity is an important part of Islam... btw.

 

[Chutney]

That's some spacious reasoning, man. I think there's a certain amount of compassion that you should show for others who are struggling. I mean, say you see a woman being raped in an alley. By your reasoning, there's no reason to do anything to help her out. She probably made the "stupid" mistake of going into a dark alley by herself. Your taxes pay for the police that should be saving her and will search for the criminal afterwards. If you help her out, she probably won't reward you in any material way and you're giving your help away for nothing. So, is there any reason to help her out in this situation or do you keep walking and forget about the whole situation? Because, you know, life is short...

 

[Sasha]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
Sasha, you dont know me, you dont know the kind of person I am, I am far from what you described above. I enjoy helping people out, infact thats one of the main reasons why I am planning to become a Police Officer, to help people out, I just dont believe in giving somthing away for nothing, especially somthing I put in hardwork, get underpaid and cheated out of (oh right, the taxes, the finger thing means the taxes [/Simpsons Quote]) to earn.</div>
I'm sorry, but did you just respond with a Simpson's quote and expect me to take you seriously? If you can't bring your points forth validly, stop hiding behind humor.

I think Chutney outlined it perfectly.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">Chutney Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">That's some spacious reasoning, man. I think there's a certain amount of compassion that you should show for others who are struggling. I mean, say you see a woman being raped in an alley. By your reasoning, there's no reason to do anything to help her out. She probably made the "stupid" mistake of going into a dark alley by herself. Your taxes pay for the police that should be saving her and will search for the criminal afterwards. If you help her out, she probably won't reward you in any material way and you're giving your help away for nothing. So, is there any reason to help her out in this situation or do you keep walking and forget about the whole situation? Because, you know, life is short...</div>

I dont believe in giving money to charity, I dont <u>not</u> believe in helping people out, how hard is this to comprehend? There is a big difference between giving away hard earned money for nothing, and helping out a woman who is being raped or assaulted.

You guys can try and twist this as much as you like, you're making yourself look like fools at the end of the day, because I'm not a selfish person at all.

 

[Sasha]

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dictionary:</div><div class="quote_post">self?ish /ˈsɛlfɪʃ/ ?adjective
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.</div>
You're the spitting image of it. Now, granted I don't know much about you, or really anything at all but what you've presented thus far fits perfectly with the above explanation. Don't take this as an attack, because it isn't, I'd just like to know why you don't like helping people out. So, please stop sidestepping everything and answer me that if you could.

 

[umair]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont believe in giving money to charity, I dont <u>not</u> believe in helping people out, how hard is this to comprehend? There is a big difference between giving away hard earned money for nothing, and helping out a woman who is being raped or assaulted.

You guys can try and twist this as much as you like, you're making yourself look like fools at the end of the day, because I'm not a selfish person at all.</div>

How do you not want to give money to charity and save it for yourself to <u>enjoy</u>. Dude seriously that is SELFISH.

 

[Chutney]

<div class="quote_poster">NTC187 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I dont believe in giving money to charity, I dont <u>not</u> believe in helping people out, how hard is this to comprehend? There is a big difference between giving away hard earned money for nothing, and helping out a woman who is being raped or assaulted.

You guys can try and twist this as much as you like, you're making yourself look like fools at the end of the day, because I'm not a selfish person at all.</div>
I'm not calling you selfish so much as I'm trying to understand your reasoning. You don't believe in charity, but you do believe in helping people out. Dude, those two things go hand in hand. The only difference between giving your "hard earned money" to charity for nothing and helping out a distressed women for nothing, is that one involves money.

Is it simply that you don't like giving money away? Because, if that's the case you need to realize that everything in society revolves around money. Saving a woman from getting raped always makes a difference, but not as much as donating money that can provide therapy and councilling for 10 women who've been raped. It's one thing to not have enough money to spare for charity, but I don't understand how you could have so much extra money (hypothetically), not donate any to charity, and still not consider yourself selfish.

 

[NTC]

<div class="quote_poster">Sasha Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You're the spitting image of it. Now, granted I don't know much about you, or really anything at all but what you've presented thus far fits perfectly with the above explanation. Don't take this as an attack, because it isn't, I'd just like to know why you don't like helping people out. So, please stop sidestepping everything and answer me that if you could.</div>

Why? Because I dont give money to charity?

There is more to being selfish than just not giving money away to charity.

I've already given you enough reasons as to why I dont give to charity, if you feel as though giving away your hard earned money to other people for nothing makes you a better person, then good for you, I dont, deal with it.

If some one needs to borrow some money, I'll lend it to them, if some one is being picked on by some one else, I'll stand up for them, if some one is being attacked, I'll help fend the attacker off, I wont give away money, that I work hard for, away for nothing.

Chutney, yeah you're right, everything in society revolves around money, and I have enough bills, debts and responsibilites of my own to worry about and cater for, without having to pay for other peoples mishaps too.

If I did have so much money I didnt know what to do with it, I would give back to the community, but it would be after my own personal needs have first been met, and it would be a project I would put together and finance, like building a Hospital, School etc.

 

[Chutney]

Dude, that's a lot different than what you originally said (would rather spend the money on cars that you wouldn't drive, etc.) and way easier to respect. You wouldn't be the only person to distrust charitable organizations. But spending money like that is essentially the same thing.

 

[NTC]

If there are 50 cars that I want, then I'll buy them first.

One thing I've learnt growing up is you need to always put yourself first, there are too many unappreciative people out there, or people who will stab you in the back at any given chance.

 

[Premium]

I don't know what I find more disgusting. The fact that someone would spend half a million dollars on a piece of jewlery...or that people here are actually supporting that descision.

How can anyone seriously support "wasting" money? You'd have to be completely out of touch with the kind of problems there are in the world to support that. Sure he has the RIGHT to do that...but does that make it ok? Why not spend half a million dollars and save some family's in Africa? How about giving to your community, and building a big state of the art rec. center or a facility that will give jobs, and take kids off the street, and help the local economy? He makes me sick...and so do you people who are so easily influenced by pop culture and a retarded trend.