Lillard Career Stats Check

[Boob-No-More]

I like the purple princess with the recurve bow

As long as she's not wearing piss yellow with the purple. That would be a deal breaker.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

But, you yourself said you'd take Dame over Westbrook. So, in that sense, we actually agree.

Russ doesn't play like a Warrior, KD does, because Russ drove him out of OKC.

BNM

Weaksauce bro. That was low hanging comedic fruit.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Weaksauce bro. That was low hanging comedic fruit.

But comedic none-the-less. It was too good a set up to pass on.

BNM

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Only Lillard and LBJ in the last 40 years have 10,400 points, 2800 assists in first 6 seasons:
http://bkref.com/tiny/GmETR

Move over MJ!

 

[theprunetang]

DAME TIME ERA!

Epoch.

 

[Mediocre Man]

The guy is honestly criminally underrated.

I think the reason he is "underrated" is the fact the team is average. With the exception of a couple, Dame hasn't really "led" the team to great heights.

Not a slight, just an opinion as to why he may be, or perceived being, underrated

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I think the reason he is "underrated" is the fact the team is average. With the exception of a couple, Dame hasn't really "led" the team to great heights.

Not a slight, just an opinion as to why he may be, or perceived being, underrated

Perhaps, but one would think that the same evaluation should, in theory, be leveled on Anthony Davis, whose teams are perennially worse than Dame's, yet he's universally understood to be a top-10 player.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Perhaps, but one would think that the same evaluation should, in theory, be leveled on Anthony Davis, whose teams are perennially worse than Dame's, yet he's universally understood to be a top-10 player.

Ya, good point. Is our team better....maybe?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Ya, good point. Is our team better....maybe?

Previous years, definitely. This year, ehhhhhh....?

 

[illmatic99]

The man needs some playoff success. Neil has seriously let him down with this roster build.

 

[Boob-No-More]

I think the reason he is "underrated" is the fact the team is average. With the exception of a couple, Dame hasn't really "led" the team to great heights.

Not a slight, just an opinion as to why he may be, or perceived being, underrated

LeBron's teams didn't win > 50 games until his 6th season. In his first five years, his team won 35, 42, 50, 50 and 45 games. That's an average of of 44.4 wins/season.

In Lillard's first 5 seasons, his team won 33, 54, 51, 45, and 41 games. That's an average of 44.8 wins/season.

Obviously, there is more in play that team success. I'm not saying Lillard is as good as LeBron. That's not a slight on Lillard. LeBron was a sensation with his team's games being carried on ESPN while he was still in high school. He was already wildly heralded as the next all time NBA great. He went right from high school to the NBA where he averaged 20.9 points, 5.5 rebounds and 5.9 assists per game as a teenager with zero college experience. Not even Kobe or KG, or any other straight from high school player has ever come close to those numbers. There was a buzz and mystique about LeBron before he even set foot on an NBA court. It was justified.

Lillard was an unknown four year player at a small school in a shitty conference. So, in addition to being much older than LeBron as a rookie, no one really knew who he was.

LeBron is better, way better, but that shouldn't diminish what Lillard has accomplished. It's still pretty impressive when you look at the other names on those lists, and especially, when you also consider the great players who aren't on those lists.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

I also think one reason he's underrated is the current depth of talent at the PG position during the prime of his career. There are so many other great PGs, it's really hard to stand out. There are basically two great small forwards, one great power forward, one great SG and one Greek Freak, but there are/have been several other all time great PGs in the league for Dame's entire career.

BNM

 

[Mediocre Man]

LeBron's teams didn't win > 50 games until his 6th season. In his first five years, his team won 35, 42, 50, 50 and 45 games. That's an average of of 44.4 wins/season.

In Lillard's first 5 seasons, his team won 33, 54, 51, 45, and 41 games. That's an average of 44.8 wins/season.

Obviously, there is more in play that team success. I'm not saying Lillard is as good as LeBron. That's not a slight on Lillard. LeBron was a sensation with his team's games being carried on ESPN while he was still in high school. He was already wildly heralded as the next all time NBA great. He went right from high school to the NBA where he averaged 20.9 points, 5.5 rebounds and 5.9 assists per game as a teenager with zero college experience. Not even Kobe or KG, or any other straight from high school player has ever come close to those numbers. There was a buzz and mystique about LeBron before he even set foot on an NBA court. It was justified.

Lillard was an unknown four year player at a small school in a shitty conference. So, in addition to being much older than LeBron as a rookie, no one really knew who he was.

LeBron is better, way better, but that shouldn't diminish what Lillard has accomplished. It's still pretty impressive when you look at the other names on those lists, and especially, when you also consider the great players who aren't on those lists.

BNM

No one is trying to diminish his accomplishments. I was just offering an opinion on why he may seem underrated

 

[Boob-No-More]

No one is trying to diminish his accomplishments. I was just offering an opinion on why he may seem underrated

I think the number one reason is he plays in a small, isolated market.

Hopefully, the team will continue winning and get past the first round of the playoffs. More nationally televised games will garner more recognition for what he's accomplished/is accomplishing.

I think everyone around the league recognizes just how good he is. I just think it's the casual fans/general public that underrates him.

BNM

 

[dviss1]

So, how massive of a jinx thread is this?

No such thing as a jinx.

 

[THE HCP]

Only Lillard and LBJ in the last 40 years have 10,400 points, 2800 assists in first 6 seasons:
http://bkref.com/tiny/GmETR

Move over MJ!

WOW!

 

[Natebishop3]

I think the reason he is "underrated" is the fact the team is average. With the exception of a couple, Dame hasn't really "led" the team to great heights.

Not a slight, just an opinion as to why he may be, or perceived being, underrated

Well..... Jordan had Pippen and Rodman.

Kareem had Magic and Worthy.

LeBron didn't win anything until he had Bosh and Wade.

Bird had McHale and Parish.

Dame has..... CJ. How legendary would some of these guys have been if they had extremely subpar talent surrounding them?

 

[dviss1]

I just can’t blame the star of a team who goes out there and plays like a warrior every single play of every single game. Team chem is a fickle thing right? Maybe they click in the playoffs, who knows, maybe they don’t and it was a failed experiment. I can’t blame The Big O for not winning championships when he put up those historic numbers...... they didn’t NOT win because of him. There aren’t too many players I’d rather have the ball in thier hands with a tied game than Russ to be honest. Dame is one as well. Sorry man, we will have to disagree on this til the end of time...... or until you get banned form here.

Who's got that stat about their record when Westbrook exceeds 17 shots?

 

[Mediocre Man]

I think the number one reason is he plays in a small, isolated market.

Hopefully, the team will continue winning and get past the first round of the playoffs. More nationally televised games will garner more recognition for what he's accomplished/is accomplishing.

I think everyone around the league recognizes just how good he is. I just think it's the casual fans/general public that underrates him.

BNM

Westbrook plays in OKC
Greek freak in Milwaukee
Leonard, Duncan SA
Davis in NO

All in smaller markets

 

[dviss1]

Love Ime, and I know what your saying, but I’ll take Russ’ style all day every day.

Dame averages 19.2 shots per game. You know our record.

If Westbrick shot that much what would their record be?

 

[Natebishop3]

I just can’t blame the star of a team who goes out there and plays like a warrior every single play of every single game.

If your definition of "warrior" is "guy who goes out and chases stats, sometimes to the detriment of the team, and plays selfish basketball for his own benefit" then... yeah.... he's a warrior.

 

[gatorpops]

Dame would have had many more assists if he had even one more good shooter on his team. Same goes for scoring as well.