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https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...fter-nba-players-all-star-votes-are-revealed/

What I do have a problem with is how one particular part of the voting went down in the West. It didn't affect the actual starters, so it's easy to overlook, but enlarge the fine print of the tweet below and you'll see that the players -- you know, the ones who "really understand what's going on out there" -- voted Derrick Rose ahead of Damian Lillard.

Here are the guards who wound up making that team: Kyle Lowry (Lillard's better), Klay Thompson (he may have been better suited for his defense, but Lillard's still better), Kyrie Irving (far more debatable that people will have you believe) and Jimmy Butler (close, but Lillard's better). You can debate all these, of course. But at this point, you can't debate that Lillard doesn't get the unequivocal superstar respect he should. That is just a fact.

Just to restate: Lillard, by contrast, once again has the Blazers -- always everyone's favorite preseason pick to fall out of the playoffs -- in the top half of the Western Conference. Lillard scores more than Irving. From an off-the-dribble-threat and range standpoint, he affects the game more with his 3-point shot. He's nearly as good a finisher. Again, Irving is great, but he's not nearly as much better than Lillard as the conversation around those two would suggest. Not even close. I'd call them pretty damn even.

While we're at it, let's take a look at Anthony Davis, who has reportedly requested a trade from the Pelicans (side note: If you're the Blazers, you could throw a pretty sweet offer at the Pels built around CJ McCollum and maybe a Zach Collins to take a two-year run with Lillard and Davis, but that's another story for another day). For now, Davis is still on the Pelicans, where he has Jrue Holiday (better than McCollum) and Julius Randle, who's having a great season and is arguably better than Portland's third-best player, Jusuf Nurkic.

There is no way you can objectively look at the Blazers and Pelicans' respective rosters and not conclude they're pretty even, if New Orleans isn't actually a bit more talented on paper. Yet New Orleans isn't sniffing the playoffs and has spent much of the season as the worst team in the West outside of the Suns, who barely count as an NBA team.

Let me tell you something: You will never see a prime-Damian Lillard-led team at the bottom of any conference. Ever. You certainly would never see Lillard registering basically a .500 record with a healthy and dominant DeMarcus Cousins next to him, which is all Davis was able to do during their tenure together. Yet Davis is basically talked about like a superhero -- which he is, but again, that's not the point. The point is that Lillard is a superhero, too. This should not be an argument.


The funny thing is, earlier this season I was doing a piece on Kemba Walker and probably asked 10 or 15 players to name some of their most underrated stars in the league, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM named Lillard. And then they go out and vote Derrick Rose ahead of him? Frankly, it's kind of ridiculous that they voted Russell Westbrook ahead of Lillard, too, but I suppose I can at least listen to that logo. But Derrick Rose? Come on, fellas. If you're going to constantly tell these nerdy reporters that you're the ones who "know better" then actually be better than that.
 
Not something new unfortunately. Doesn't matter what it seems like we are always overlooked and our players aren't as talked about. If Lillard was in LA or NY he would be the face of the NBA like Lebron/KB/Steph
 
I think he still gonna make the asg and if he wants that he needs to bring everything in the playoffs
 
There is only one accolade a player should care about - a championship ring.
 
I'm not going to say that I'm secretly glad Dame doesn't get the respect the deserves. "Because then he plays so much harder with a chip on his shoulder in the later portion of the season." That's frankly an old, cliched argument that only hurts Dame in the long run.

Because then 10 years from now when we are talking about HOF accolades, the same fucking opposing fans who laugh that Dame plays harder when angry.... will say he doesn't deserve to be in. Even if he played at that high a level. "Where are the rings and where are the All-Star appearances?" They aren't going to give him a pass for playing in small market.

Clyde eventually got the respect he deserved because his talent was undeniable. Roy also played at a high level and had some vocal supporters in the league. LMA as well. But media has such a role in making or breaking narratives during a season... and there are just too many good guards in the West.

If I were Dame I'd quote the famous Prince Geoffrey line from "A Lion In Winter" to national reporters:

"It's not the power I feel deprived of; it's the mention I miss. There's no affection for me here; you wouldn't think I'd want that, would you?"

So grab everything you can, Dame. And make as big as stink as possible. Fuck this silent dignity shit! Laker fans go apeshit if you mention one of their young core players isn't what the media make him out to be. The same media that all but gift wraps HOFers to play in LA to begin with.
 
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Not something new unfortunately. Doesn't matter what it seems like we are always overlooked and our players aren't as talked about. If Lillard was in LA or NY he would be the face of the NBA like Lebron/KB/Steph
I would scratch NY out since the Knicks are not relevant but the Celtics and Sixers have popularity here on the East Coast.
 
There is only one accolade a player should care about - a championship ring.
No. Championship rings don't mean much when you're competing in a team sport, especially one with so many players.

Adam Morrisson has a championship ring (I think). So what?
 
No. Championship rings don't mean much when you're competing in a team sport, especially one with so many players.

Adam Morrisson has a championship ring (I think). So what?

Let's say you have 2 players of comparable talent. One proclaims that his #1 goal is to be an all-star. The other says his #1 goal is to help his team win a title.

Who do you want on your team? To me, it isn't even a debate.
 
Let's say you have 2 players of comparable talent. One proclaims that his #1 goal is to be an all-star. The other says his #1 goal is to help his team win a title.

Who do you want on your team? To me, it isn't even a debate.
OK, I get your point. Of course, wanting to win a championship in today's NBA means trying to sign with GS...
 

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