Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

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To me, it is about trust. If his heart is in it, LMA can help the team. Will his heart be in it when he realizes that there is no way he will be the 1st, or even 2nd option in the offense? How will he react when CJ goes into black-hole mode? He played some of his best ball along-side centers who rarely touched the ball - how is he going to adapt to Nurk?

Sorry, but I just don't see him being happy as part of the current team.
 
If you say that you can't stand him, pissed for him leaving Portland or don't like his attitude, that's one thing but to act like he isn't a very talented player on the floor leads me to believe you haven't seen him play much this year or your bias has gotten the best of you. I'm not worried about his play on the court but more about what the cost would be to acquire him and if the Spurs even are willing to deal. Those are the only questions I have as I want more talent for this team. A lineup of Nurkic, Aldridge, Harkless, McCollum and Lillard can compete with pretty much any team.
Maybe the Spurs would like a couple of first round picks and a couple of defensive minded wings?

Who am I kidding. Late firsts and backups isn't going to get it done.

:cheers:
 
To me, it is about trust. If his heart is in it, LMA can help the team. Will his heart be in it when he realizes that there is no way he will be the 1st, or even 2nd option in the offense? How will he react when CJ goes into black-hole mode? He played some of his best ball along-side centers who rarely touched the ball - how is he going to adapt to Nurk?

Sorry, but I just don't see him being happy as part of the current team.
Good arguments. It's definitely reasonable to be gun shy about Aldridge. One would hope he'd be more amenable to a reduced role when his current contract is over and he comes ring chasing in Portland

:cheers:
 
Its fair to think that. I have no idea how mature LA is. Do you think Dame has the mental make up to take them over the top like the Durant situation?
I think even LA knows if he came back this is 100% Dame’s team. The real question would be, could he accept that Nurk is now the #2 guy?
Basketball talent (right now) Aldridge is an upgrade, the more mental and emotional aspects I dont really know...
I imagine right now Aldridge would think of himself as the No. 2. And Stotts too, probably. Which would demote both CJ and Nurk, and everyone down the line. All 4 would have to have total buy in to whatever the pecking order was decided to be, or it could turn into a disaster
 
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He has 2 years left on his contract. Let him walk at the end and we will probably get 2 very good years out of him.
I think that could be very good timing as a missing piece to our actual championship window.
 
Thanks but no thanks on LMA. He’s a slightly above average player now and getting worse. He’s a cancer who does not have the kind of team-first mentality that makes the Blazers who they are today. He will suck up shots from other players and replace them with less efficient shots, albeit shots that will score all 10’s if it were a pretty shot contest. But it’s not.
 
Thanks but no thanks on LMA. He’s a slightly above average player now and getting worse. He’s a cancer who does not have the kind of team-first mentality that makes the Blazers who they are today. He will suck up shots from other players and replace them with less efficient shots, albeit shots that will score all 10’s if it were a pretty shot contest. But it’s not.
The guy was an all star this year. Hardly an aging player that is struggling to keep up. I think too many people are still butthurt over the way he left and forget how talented he is.
 
The guy was an all star this year. Hardly an aging player that is struggling to keep up. I think too many people are still butthurt over the way he left and forget how talented he is.
Theres players that put up good per game stats but dont really have much of an impact on winning. Aldridge is a bit of an example in regards to that.

Aldridge is effective when used as a post-up threat where the defense picks between doubling orbstaying out in shooters. With 3 players that deserve the ball over him, you'd relegate him to being simply a pick n pop guy, and given his defensive inefficiencies at the 4, that's not enough to make him a big upgrade over Aminu. Given how hes not that good of jump shooter as well, he wouldnt take us to the next level.

As a 5 off the bench, hed be perfect though.
 
@TorturedBlazerFan you liked that shit? NOW you should banned. Lol.





Holy hell. Im an idiot. I thought i went to page one to see the op and must have went back one page. On the previous page, @tortured has the first post.

Shit. Now i need to go edit my edit that said i need to learn to read. I should change it to, just put the damned phone down man!!
Seriously... I have tried holding a conversation on numerous threads with my phone and have been so jumbled i totally lost track of conversation. I will give you a pass this time. But in the future put the phone down and drive.
 
Seriously... I have tried holding a conversation on numerous threads with my phone and have been so jumbled i totally lost track of conversation. I will give you a pass this time. But in the future put the phone down and drive.

I am amazed sometimes at what i type when using my phone. I swear it looks like a foreign language.
 
Sure but Id say this, there are very few guys on the planet who could average 20+ ppg in the NBA we know Aminu cant, LMA has proven he can.
LMA is a better offensive player then Chief.
Yeah, there are very few guys ON THE PLANET who can average 20 ppg. But there are a TON of players in the NBA who can average 20 ppg, if given the chance.

Also, if my choice for PF is solely limited to LA or Aminu just kill me now. Both of them can fuck off.
 
The guy was an all star this year. Hardly an aging player that is struggling to keep up. I think too many people are still butthurt over the way he left and forget how talented he is.

I've never thought he was that talented. WHILE he was here.

He makes horrible decisions on defense constantly switching onto the ballhandler.

His deficiencies always have been present.

I've ALWAYS called him soft and I've never liked his game.

I'll let my posting history BEFORE he left stand.

We don't need him.
 
I've never thought he was that talented. WHILE he was here.

He makes horrible decisions on defense constantly switching onto the ballhandler.

His deficiencies always have been present.

I've ALWAYS called him soft and I've never liked his game.

I'll let my posting history BEFORE he left stand.

We don't need him.
Right there with ya!
 
I've never thought he was that talented. WHILE he was here.

He makes horrible decisions on defense constantly switching onto the ballhandler.

His deficiencies always have been present.

I've ALWAYS called him soft and I've never liked his game.

I'll let my posting history BEFORE he left stand.

We don't need him.

Yeah an all rookie, 7x all star and 5x all NBA player probably wouldn't help us at all I guess. We will just have to agree to disagree on this.
 
Yeah an all rookie, 7x all star and 5x all NBA player probably wouldn't help us at all I guess. We will just have to agree to disagree on this.

I'm glad. Because you can check my history. I've always had this stance and the SOFT MF only reinforced it by

QUITTING ON MY TEAM...

Now you can stop assuming that I have this stance because he quit on us.

No, that just REINFORCED my opinion of that SOFT, SELFISH, WEAK MINDED BITCH.
 
I'm glad. Because you can check my history. I've always had this stance and the SOFT MF only reinforced it by

QUITTING ON MY TEAM...

Now you can stop assuming that I have this stance because he quit on us.

No, that just REINFORCED my opinion of that SOFT, SELFISH, WEAK MINDED BITCH.

OK, so you have never thought he was talented then. That is entirely your right to that opinion even though it goes against the majority of people in the NBA. I want more talent on my team. Have a good day dviss.
 
See now you're acting like an asshole!!
:biglaugh:

That's an easy choice. I'd pick Griffin. He's just a far better player.

Lets make it harder.

Who would you ratyher have?

LMA by giving up Collins, Turner, Leonard and a pick

or

BG by giving up CJ, Collins and picks


I think thats what it would take for either.
 
So he became talented while he was with the Spurs then? Gotcha.

Talent is not a yes or no option. there are various levels of talent, even in the NBA.
Scrubs/end of bench/gleague players
role players
starters
stars
all stars
superstars

Sometimes experience is a factor in a player moving from one category to another, but by and large talent is talent and is a range

So when someone (like @dviss1 made crystal clear) that a player is less talented than others thought, it doesn't mean the poster says he isn't talented. degrees man, degrees.

This is where your conversation skills muddy things up and I don't care if its about you or the post because it is you who makes the post and its a conversation, so technically, i'm commenting on the post and not the poster.

You turned and first said, "so you are saying he has no talent?" Then when he reaffirmed his clear statement, you twisted it further into him saying "so he became talented with the Spurs?"

This is why people complain about your conversation skills. He never said either of those things, but your post is putting words into his mouth.

You post like this very often and it is the cause of most conversations derailing.

If your posts would stop trying to twist other people's posts into something they didn't say, then your posts would not endure such scrutiny.
 
And @CupWizier I say what I said above as a positive believe it or not. When you are NOT posting that way, you are a great person to converse with.
 
Talent is not a yes or no option. there are various levels of talent, even in the NBA.
Scrubs/end of bench/gleague players
role players
starters
stars
all stars
superstars

Sometimes experience is a factor in a player moving from one category to another, but by and large talent is talent and is a range

So when someone (like @dviss1 made crystal clear) that a player is less talented than others thought, it doesn't mean the poster says he isn't talented. degrees man, degrees.

This is where your conversation skills muddy things up and I don't care if its about you or the post because it is you who makes the post and its a conversation, so technically, i'm commenting on the post and not the poster.

You turned and first said, "so you are saying he has no talent?" Then when he reaffirmed his clear statement, you twisted it further into him saying "so he became talented with the Spurs?"

This is why people complain about your conversation skills. He never said either of those things, but your post is putting words into his mouth.

You post like this very often and it is the cause of most conversations derailing.

If your posts would stop trying to twist other people's posts into something they didn't say, then your posts would not endure such scrutiny.


Oh boy here we go again. First, by your own list of talent, Aldridge is at minimum at the second highest level and being a 5 time all NBA player and a 7 time all star could make him borderline superstar as well. Second, it appears you are the one twisting words as I am just trying to understand what dviss is saying in regards to Aldridge thus the dialogue we have had going till you decided to interject for whatever reason and once again blame me. I think it would best to have him define what he meant rather than you make up something that doesn't really make much sense.

Here is what dviss said at one time I guess as I couldn't find that in his replies, but maybe I missed it.

dviss1 said:
I've never thought he was that talented. WHILE he was here
 
Could you point me to the post where this comment was made in this thread.

dviss1 said:
I've never thought he was that talented. WHILE he was here


I must have missed it. Thanks.

Again. Saying someone doesnt think he is that talented is not the same as saying he has no talent.

You are right about one thing though...here we go again....
 
Theres players that put up good per game stats but dont really have much of an impact on winning. Aldridge is a bit of an example in regards to that.

Aldridge is effective when used as a post-up threat where the defense picks between doubling orbstaying out in shooters. With 3 players that deserve the ball over him, you'd relegate him to being simply a pick n pop guy, and given his defensive inefficiencies at the 4, that's not enough to make him a big upgrade over Aminu. Given how hes not that good of jump shooter as well, he wouldnt take us to the next level.

As a 5 off the bench, hed be perfect though.

Exactly. He's effective when they choose to double. Just stay at home and make him make a shot. He might actually be a downgrade from Aminu. I know no one will believe that, but I believe it's the truth. There is more to basketball than PER and usage. He is certainly a downgrade when you consider all his additional baggage. I would take Aminu a million times without a second thought over LA.
 

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