Lillard's and Aldridge's relationship. (He will come back Portland one day)

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LayneStaley said:
I’d rather just give up Whiteside for LA once Nurk is healthy and let Hood start at 3. I can handle one more season of LA at 24 mil but I don’t wanna pay DD 28 mil too.
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It's ok. Your not the one paying anybody.
 
BigGameDamian said:
https://ripcityproject.com/2019/07/...ers-3-trades-lamarcus-aldridge-reunion/amp/2/


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BLAZERS GET
LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE

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SPURS GET
HASSAN WHITESIDE, 2020 FIRST-ROUND PICK
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BLAZERS GET
LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE

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SPURS GET
KENT BAZEMORE, SKAL LABISSIERRE, 2020 FIRST-ROUND PICK
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BLAZERS GET
LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE, DEMAR DEROZAN

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SPURS GET
HASSAN WHITESIDE, KENT BAZEMORE, SKAL LABISSIERE, 2020 FIRST-ROUND PICK, 2022 FIRST-ROUND PICK, PROTECTED 2024 FIRST-ROUND PICK
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No

No

And

Fuck No
 
hoopsjock said:
No

No

And

Fuck No
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If we could make the deal when Nurkic gets back and before the trade deadline that would make us as good as any team going into the playoffs. Derozan could be that point forward that we need and Aldridge would be a versatile scorer inside and out and have 4 players that can create their own shot and distribute the ball. Why wouldn't you want that? We would also have their bird rights for re-signing or trading as expiring contracts in the following year.The only draw back is the money, but that's a Jody Allen issue.
 
CupWizier said:
If we could make the deal when Nurkic gets back and before the trade deadline that would make us as good as any team going into the playoffs. Derozan could be that point forward that we need and Aldridge would be a versatile scorer inside and out and have 4 players that can create their own shot and distribute the ball. Why wouldn't you want that? We would also have their bird rights for re-signing or trading as expiring contracts in the following year.The only draw back is the money, but that's a Jody Allen issue.
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I wouldn't give up one 1st round pick for Aldridge or DeRozan let alone giving up 3 1st round picks for both of them.

Our defense would be horrible. I don't like Aldridge as a PF going into his mid-30's. If we're going to give up that much I'd rather go after better fits with Dame, CJ, and Nurk.
 
hoopsjock said:
I wouldn't give up one 1st round pick for Aldridge or DeRozan let alone giving up 3 1st round picks for both of them.

Our defense would be horrible. I don't like Aldridge as a PF going into his mid-30's. If we're going to give up that much I'd rather go after better fits with Dame, CJ, and Nurk.
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Agreed. Giving up a first for a 34 year old big man is just bad basketball decision making.
 
IMO Aldridge is not worth Whiteside for our current team. And I'm a guy who didn't want Whiteside back when we were his second choice.
 
The LMA discussion really depends on how much you trust Zach is the “PF” of the future. I find myself still on the fence about if I trust Zach or not, which is probably why I dont have the negative reaction to some of these as others seem to.

I’ve never liked Derozans game.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
The LMA discussion really depends on how much you trust Zach is the “PF” of the future. I find myself still on the fence about if I trust Zach or not, which is probably why I dont have the negative reaction to some of these as others seem to.

I’ve never liked Derozans game.
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I remember when people fell in love with Zach Randolph. He was also once young and untouchable.
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
The LMA discussion really depends on how much you trust Zach is the “PF” of the future. I find myself still on the fence about if I trust Zach or not, which is probably why I dont have the negative reaction to some of these as others seem to.
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I don't agree with that. I don't like playing LMA at PF at this point in his career so it's more about not wanting that type of lineup versus any indication of my trust in Zach.
 
hoopsjock said:
I don't agree with that. I don't like playing LMA at PF at this point in his career so it's more about not wanting that type of lineup versus any indication of my trust in Zach.
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The Blazers dont really switch PNR’s, though which would be LMA’s biggest weakness as a PF. Not sure why he couldnt play PF. Not sure what would make LMA unable to play PF?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
The Blazers dont really switch PNR’s, though which would be LMA’s biggest weakness as a PF. Not sure why he couldnt play PF. Not sure what would make LMA unable to play PF?
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What? The Blazers don't switch PnR's?

Against stretch fours LMA would be out guarding the perimeter. It would be a disaster.
 
Defender said:
Agreed. Giving up a first for a 34 year old big man is just bad basketball decision making.
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So we can draft another Caleb Swanigan with a late 1st round pick?

Come on. If you feel Aldridge will get you closer to a title you do it. Everyone falls in love with youth. Sometimes you have to go for it. Maybe Aldridge isn't that guy. But with our current team, sometimes you have to go for it. Out of all the guys available he may be the cheapest and doesn't hamstring us financially. I feel like one first with Bazemore and Skal is a pretty cheap bundle for a perennial all star. Even if he is aging.
 
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hoopsjock said:
What? The Blazers don't switch PnR's?

Against stretch fours LMA would be out guarding the perimeter. It would be a disaster.
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The Blazers normally play drop coverage on PNR’s, and their scheme doesnt seem all that likely to change unless their players complain about it some more. I haven't seen much evidence that Zach is capable of defending very good on the perimeter. Zachs a better shot Blocker than LMA.

I feel exactly the same about Zach now as I did last year at this time and Im not sure thats good. I guess its good that Zach is still young.
 
hoopsjock said:
I don't agree with that. I don't like playing LMA at PF at this point in his career so it's more about not wanting that type of lineup versus any indication of my trust in Zach.
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His numbers were better last year as a PF than as a center which were both very good and he is light years ahead of any PF we have right now as he shoots very well from 16' to the 3pt. line so he can still space the floor with Nurkic. I know you are hot on trying to get Griffin, but the cost would be significantly higher as Westbrook kind of set the cost for a player of Griffins ability.
 
hoopsjock said:
What? The Blazers don't switch PnR's?

Against stretch fours LMA would be out guarding the perimeter. It would be a disaster.
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and those stretch 4's on the block would be a disaster for their respective teams going against Aldridge . I also think you are selling Aldridge short as a defender. Pops didn't seem to have a problem using Aldridge at the 4 when he had Gasol and then Poeltl as as a center. Derozan and Aldridge also almost lead the Spurs to an upset victory over Denver in the first round. I want the best team possible and holding grudges against former players seems a bit ridiculous. Derozan and Aldridge can help this team and if all it costs us is Whiteside (Harkless and Leonard), Bazemore (Turner), Skal and maybe a couple picks
 
CupWizier said:
His numbers were better last year as a PF than as a center which were both very good and he is light years ahead of any PF we have right now as he shoots very well from 16' to the 3pt. line so he can still space the floor with Nurkic. I know you are hot on trying to get Griffin, but the cost would be significantly higher as Westbrook kind of set the cost for a player of Griffins ability.
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I'm not hot on anyone that we'd have to overpay for. Westbrook's value was nothing. The Thunder got two 1sts for taking Paul's contract. We'd have expirings to give Detroit.
 
CupWizier said:
and those stretch 4's on the block would be a disaster for their respective teams going against Aldridge . I also think you are selling Aldridge short as a defender. Pops didn't seem to have a problem using Aldridge at the 4 when he had Gasol and then Poeltl as as a center. Derozan and Aldridge also almost lead the Spurs to an upset victory over Denver in the first round. I want the best team possible and holding grudges against former players seems a bit ridiculous. Derozan and Aldridge can help this team and if all it costs us is Whiteside (Harkless and Leonard), Bazemore (Turner), Skal and maybe a couple picks
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And I think that team is worse and I'm also accounting for Aldridge aging.
 
hoopsjock said:
And I think that team is worse and I'm also accounting for Aldridge aging.
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Well i think it will be awhile before he will need a cain to use while playing and he is coming off one of his best seasons so he doesn't seem to be slowing down. He could be a 2 year rental and if it ddoesn't work well he's a tradeable asset either in the off season or by the trade deadline and if it is working we negotiate a reasonable contract. It is basically a 2 year tryout.
 
Im not sure why were throwing Derozan in the mix, Im not super high on LMA or Demar, but Id much rather have LMA if I had to have one. I think Hood / Bazemore are capable of giving you just as much as Demar while being better better 3 point shooters.
 
CupWizier said:
Well i think it will be awhile before he will need a cain to use while playing and he is coming off one of his best seasons so he doesn't seem to be slowing down. He could be a 2 year rental and if it ddoesn't work well he's a tradeable asset either in the off season or by the trade deadline and if it is working we negotiate a reasonable contract. It is basically a 2 year tryout.
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TorturedBlazerFan said:
Im not sure why were throwing Derozan in the mix, Im not super high on LMA or Demar, but Id much rather have LMA if I had to have one. I think Hood / Bazemore are capable of giving you just as much as Demar while being better better 3 point shooters.
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With Dame and CJ I'd rather have Bazemore and Whiteside than Derozan and Aldridge. Plus I believe Skal can develop into an Aldridge type player. Giving up picks on top of that is crazy.
 
hoopsjock said:
With Dame and CJ I'd rather have Bazemore and Whiteside than Derozan and Aldridge. Plus I believe Skal can develop into an Aldridge type player. Giving up picks on top of that is crazy.
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Well once Nurks healthy I dont think Whiteside has any value here. I definitely dont expect whiteside back next year. Bazemore is also an expiring. Saying Skals going to be an LMA type, I mean I like Skal but it seems a little early to call that. Lets not forget Sac just traded him for Swanigan...

If they want to go all in to try to win during Dame’s prime Im all for that. Not that LMA would be “going all in”, but they’ll probably have to give up picks to get all star caliber players.

I definitely dont want Derozan, at all. LMA I think has a year or two of good basketball left.

You higher on Zach or Skal?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Well once Nurks healthy I dont think Whiteside has any value here. I definitely dont expect whiteside back next year. Bazemore is also an expiring. Saying Skals going to be an LMA type, I mean I like Skal but it seems a little early to call that. Lets not forget Sac just traded him for Swanigan...

If they want to go all in to try to win during Dame’s prime Im all for that. Not that LMA would be “going all in”, but they’ll probably have to give up picks to get all star caliber players.

I definitely dont want Derozan, at all. LMA I think has a year or two of good basketball left.

You higher on Zach or Skal?
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I'm saying both LMA and Derozan would be a waste of those assets and wouldn't make us better. I don't think Nurk can be counted on to play big minutes this season so Whiteside will be valuable and if he's tradeable I'd rather it be for someone that's a better fit than Aldridge.

I think Zach is better than Skal but both have high ceilings. I'm not saying they'll get anywhere close but they both have useful skillsets.
 
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