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Hip hop and rap suck ass. But good for Dame.
 
HCP said:
So got home Friday night from the Bay around 1:30am. Walked into the house and my son had some music playing downstairs in the TV room. It was Dame's new music. Didn't stop listening to it all weekend and walked out the door to school with it on his headsets. He said all his friends thinks it's dope, not just because its our local hoop star either. Quality beats, lyrics.
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How soon before you work some of his music into one of your highlight packages? Opening night?
 
tlongII said:
Hip hop and rap suck ass. But good for Dame.
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Curious if you were raised by your parents listening to Jazz or Soul or R&B music, this is definitely gateway music towards hip hop.
My mom raised me on both, dad raised me on classic rock and classical music.
To throw a blatant statement like out there like that is kinda sad. What you hear in commercials and on the radio is not quality hip hop/rap. There is amazing stuff out there, trust me. Hate when people say things like this. I would never sit down and listen to country music, but if I dig into my library I would find some good stuff like Cash.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Gordon Hayward has hotter bars.

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I actually took the time to listen to that. Yes, the whole thing. I think it's fair to say that it's probably the worst attempt at a hip-hop song to which I've ever chosen to listen. At least at the very end they said "That was silly," so they clearly recognized that they have no skills.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
I actually took the time to listen to that. Yes, the whole thing. I think it's fair to say that it's probably the worst attempt at a hip-hop song to which I've ever chosen to listen. At least at the very end they said "That was silly," so they clearly recognized that they have no skills.
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Hayward is a spiritual lyrical miracle.
 
^Sorry man, don't know why that posted this way. Click on the red link.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Jmo did a nice job on that video. You could learn some things from him @HCP.
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Ha! He wishes. You know when I look back on stuff I cut, I always see things I would fix, then I have to remind myself I'm cutting that stuff DURING the game. Stopping to do replays, highlight packages, roll other elements like scenics of the cities we are in and other shit. Lucky to be able to squeeze something that's at least airable! Jealous of those guys that edit things post when they have all the time to analyze every edit.
 
HCP said:
Curious if you were raised by your parents listening to Jazz or Soul or R&B music, this is definitely gateway music towards hip hop.
My mom raised me on both, dad raised me on classic rock and classical music.
To throw a blatant statement like out there like that is kinda sad. What you hear in commercials and on the radio is not quality hip hop/rap. There is amazing stuff out there, trust me. Hate when people say things like this. I would never sit down and listen to country music, but if I dig into my library I would find some good stuff like Cash.
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Actually I played jazz for many years. My statement was over the top, but mostly true regarding rap anyway. Hip hop actually isn't too bad. I definitely don't like the direction music has trended for the past 10-15 years though.
 
tlongII said:
Actually I played jazz for many years. My statement was over the top, but mostly true regarding rap anyway. Hip hop actually isn't too bad. I definitely don't like the direction music has trended for the past 10-15 years though.
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I can respect that. I actually attribute hip hop is what really made me a jazz fan more than my dad did. Early 90s groups like A Tribe Called Quest sampled tons of old classic jazz artists like Grover Washington Jr., Cal Tjader, Roy Ayers and many others in the music. Used to DJ back then and would mix back and forth between the originals and the hip hop version. The Roots, Slum Village, Common, De La Soul and many other groups have a very strong Jazz foundation. Doesn't mean there isn't TONS of shit out there, but not everything from that world sucks.
 
HCP said:
I can respect that. I actually attribute hip hop is what really made me a jazz fan more than my dad did. Early 90s groups like A Tribe Called Quest sampled tons of old classic jazz artists like Grover Washington Jr., Cal Tjader, Roy Ayers and many others in the music. Used to DJ back then and would mix back and forth between the originals and the hip hop version. The Roots, Slum Village, Common, De La Soul and many other groups have a very strong Jazz foundation. Doesn't mean there isn't TONS of shit out there, but not everything from that world sucks.
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Sampling is part of what I don't like. It feels like cheating to me. These guys need to come up with their own melodies and beats rather than stealing others'.
 
tlongII said:
Sampling is part of what I don't like. It feels like cheating to me. These guys need to come up with their own melodies and beats rather than stealing others'.
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Those were the early days when that happened a lot more. Check the first 4 Roots albums and you can't not acknowledge the wizardry in their music. Real band right there.
 
HCP said:
Those were the early days when that happened a lot more. Check the first 4 Roots albums and you can't not acknowledge the wizardry in their music. Real band right there.
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Also, all of the great Jazz musicians were constantly riffing on each other's music. That is standard practice. There was a big thing from the 40's through the 60's where jazz musicians would take the harmony parts of someone else's song and put new melodies over top of them. It is tribute and a sort of communion between those in the know.
 
I dig Blueseum, poetry with a real jazz band, etc...Dame used some real tracks..I liked a large portion of the recording...couple tracks were not my thing..love the counterpoint vocal stuff....I connected with that aspect through Spike Lee movies like Mo Better Blues when Denzel raps over his bebop group...that's cool stuff Sampling has it place but I draw the line at music where a robot determines the groove...doesn't work for me
 
tlongII said:
Sampling is part of what I don't like. It feels like cheating to me. These guys need to come up with their own melodies and beats rather than stealing others'.
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Wish I could rep this more than once.
 
HCP said:
Those were the early days when that happened a lot more. Check the first 4 Roots albums and you can't not acknowledge the wizardry in their music. Real band right there.
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Yeah I mean there was so much transformation of the samples happening, so many layers, that it really was an art form on its own. That era was a lot of fun.
 
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