Lilliard reminds you of...

[Sedatedfork]

Fur = Not Suede

 

[Sinobas]

Steve Francis
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[The_Lillard_King]

A cross between CP3, Rose, Chancey, Roy, Thomas, Magic, Nash and Stockton . . . . . . . . . . only better.

 

[THE HCP]

I can see the Francis comparison. Obviously he was a shoot first and then shoot second type of PG, but Lilard gets to the rim in a similar way as Stevie Franchise.

 

[THE HCP]

Steve Francis- 6'3" 210lbs

 

[GoBlazersGo]

Steve Francis was, without a doubt, a (short) shooting-guard. Lillard Seems to be a much more willing/capable passer.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Steve Francis
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Goddamn, how high could he jump?!

 

[Haakzilla]

Goddamn, how high could he jump?!

VERTICAL LEAPS:

• 48" - Michael Jordan
• 48" - Darrell Griffith
• 46" - Spudd Webb
• 46" - Jason Richardson
• 46" - James White
• 44" - LeBron James
• 44" - Dee Brown
• 44" - Harold Miner
• 44" - Vince Carter
• 43" - Steve Francis
• 43" - Nate Robinson
• 42" - Antonio McDyess
• 42" - Dominique Wilkins
• 42" - Fred Jones
• 42" - Ricky Davis
• 42" - Tracy McGrady
• 41" - Allen Iverson
• 41" - Dr. J (Julius Erving)
• 41" - Shawn Marion
• 41" - Carmelo Anthony
• 40" - Shawn Kemp
• 40" - Larry Nance
• 39" - Rex Chapmann
• 38" - Kobe Bryant
• 38" - Paul Pierce
• 38" - Desmond Mason
• 38" - Harrison "Fucking" Barnes!
• 36" - Ralph Sampson
• 34" - Daryl Dawkins
• 32" - Shaquille Oneal
• 32" - Lamar Odom
• 30" - Magic Johnson
• 28" - Karl Malone
• 28" - Larry Bird
• 8" - Denny Crane (official HCP measurements)
• 4" - The HCP (official Denny Crane measurements)

 

[THE HCP]

^ 8" -DennyCrane

 

[BlazerCaravan]

And Lillard is 41", right?

EDIT: nevermind, Draftexpress says 39.5" max vert (which is what I assume is listed above).

 

[Sinobas]

And our very own Elliot Williams has a 48 inch vertical! Maybe we sould call him Air Elliot! Doesn't that sound gay?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

My Caucasian friend from Tualatin has a 46" vert. Fams.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

My Caucasian friend from Tualatin has a 46" vert. Fams.

A friend from HS (also white) had a 46-48" vertical, but he never liked basketball.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

My Caucasian friend from Tualatin has a 46" vert. Fams.

I could jump twice, and I still wouldn't be at 46".

 

[THE HCP]

A friend from HS (also white) had a 46-48" vertical, but he never liked basketball.

He liked you instead , huh?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

He liked you instead , huh?

Actually, he really liked his younger cousin, which caused some problems for him.

 

[Natebishop3]

Actually, he really liked his younger cousin, which caused some problems for him.

This ain't Alabama!

 

[dviss1]

Rose- 6'3" 190 lbs

Westbrook- 6'3" 195 lbs

Lilard- 6'3" 185 lbs

Why do the first 2 seem so much bigger?

Because they are bigger. FYP.

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Lillard has really no midrange game to speak of (midrange game really needs work) so I think the Roy comparisons are a bit much. Roy had a very refined mid range game right out of College. I compare him to Derek Rose. Similar size, with no mid range game to speak of. But a better shooter.

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[BoBoBREWSKI]

Reminds me of an unproven rookie PG. Ask me again in three months.

 

[Eastoff]

Reminds me of an unproven rookie PG. Ask me again in three months.

no, no, no. He reminds me of a rookie point guard that hasn't proven himself yet.

 

[Spud147]

I've never been more excited for a losing season to start. I can't wait to see this guy play with LaMarcus. The wait is killing me!!!

 

[Rhal]

I've never been more excited for a losing season to start. I can't wait to see this guy play with LaMarcus. The wait is killing me!!!

same here!

 

[BlazerWookee]

Not that I have seen enough, and yes, am admittedly jumping the gun, but to me, he looks like

Tim Hardaway, or
a smaller D Wade.

He just seems to have that swagger, shot, and body control.

You?

Jerryd Bayless sans Wally Gator arms...

 

[mook]

Jerryd Bayless sans Wally Gator arms...

Bayless had a similar handle, open court ability, athleticism and ability to get to the rim/draw fouls. But he lacked any real ability to run an offense or shoot a three pointer.

If you took the best attributes of Bayless, Jarret Jack and Steve Blake, I think you'd have a pretty close approximation of Lillard.

Jack because (judging by Summer League) Lillard seems to make the reasonably conservative/low turnover pass like Jack did. Not a "wow did you see that?" kind of passer, but the kind that sees the floor ok and can make the basic passes needed to run an offense. I think Lillard will look like a better passer than he truly is because his driving and shooting ability (and Aldridge) will create space for lots of those kinds of passes. Kind of like Tony Parker.

Blake purely for the perimeter shooting. I don't know that he's that good, but he seems pretty darned good.

To this comparison you have to pepper in a little of Roy's swag too.

 

[illmatic99]

I recall some passes he threw out of the P&R that were Sergio like. And I don't remember Jack ever throwing a lob like this:

[video=youtube;0Xolq_1w77I]

Maybe I'm getting too hyped. Sigh...

But one thing I'm sure we all are glad of is that Nate isn't here to discourage the guy from taking risks like that.

 

[mook]

I do remember him making some good quality pick-and-roll passes, and that lob is nicely done. So maybe calling him Jack-like is underselling a little, since his pick-and-roll game was pretty limited. I don't think he had the balls to throw a lob under McMillan.

But I don't remember many Sergio-esque type passes from Lillard in SL. Sergio had a special gift for delivering the ball in crazy places with pinpoint accuracy. He had tons of flaws, but he did that exceedingly well.

Even that lob in your clip is a fairly basic NBA point guard play-- you see a leaper leaking out ahead of everyone and it's the PG's job to deliver that pass. Lillard is very accurate to his credit, but it's not amazing (IMO). We've just had a lot of shitty PG's (aside from Andre/Segio) who didn't look for it (and probably couldn't throw it).

 

[MickZagger]

Jerryd Bayless sans Wally Gator arms...

You're being a little disingenious, Wook.

 

[MickZagger]

What's Blaze01's comparison. I remember him saying he wanted Marquis Teague over Lillard.

 

[BlazerWookee]

You're being a little disingenious, Wook.

Maybe just a little. When I met Jerryd Bayless, he struck me as the most confident, driven-but-head-screwed-on-straight athlete with whom I had ever made eye contact. Until I met Brandon Roy, that is. I saw an interview of Lillard shortly after the draft, and I remember thinking to myself that he had that same something in his eyes that actually came through the friggin' camera. That, and it's VERY hard for me to pass up a chance to say that Bayless has Wally Gator arms...