Load Management for Dame and CJ?

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I would love to see Dame and CJ only playing 70 games in the RS, but i'm not sure if we can afford it in the Western Conference, especially with Nurk out for a long part of the Season, maybe against garbage Teams like Suns, Bulls, Cavs etc.?
 
seems like that is the way the league is going for better or worse. you know the clippers and Lakers superstars will play less than 65 games, just enough to get the playoffs matchup they want
 
Labinot41 said:
I would love to see Dame and CJ only playing 70 games in the RS, but i'm not sure if we can afford it in the Western Conference, especially with Nurk out for a long part of the Season, maybe against garbage Teams like Suns, Bulls, Cavs etc.?
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In another year when Simons is ready for a bigger role, resting either CJ or Dame should be easier to do. (One reason to keep all three)

Right now they could get away with resting CJ as Hood can start some games. Hopefully we can add a veteran PG who can spell Dame for a few games.
 
Been saying this for a while here. Look at Dame's total minutes in his career and compare to others drafted around him. Look at how he broke down after the OKC series. This NEEDS to happen. If we want peak Dame in multiple playoff rounds, he can't be expected to carry the team for 75+ regular season games.

CJ had a few redshirt years to start his career so I'm OK with his current load.
 
Here's my interpretation of what happened last year:

CJ gets hurt late in the season, comes back after missing a bunch of games right before the season ends. He's fresh for the playoffs, and just kills it.

Meanwhile, no such Load Management for Lillard, who had to go Extra HAM as CJ AND Nurk were out. What happened? We went on an absolute tear, which continued into the OKC series. However, after that series, he was physically and mentally spent. We managed to win the playoff series, but he was basically done by the end.

We still put up a fight against GS - leading more minutes than them, but without a rested Lillard and without Nurk, we lost.

So, I'm OK with Load Management during the first 2/3 of the season, but we should seriously use it down the stretch - on everyone except Nurk! Being rested for the playoffs is extremely important.
 
Wizard Mentor said:
Here's my interpretation of what happened last year:

CJ gets hurt late in the season, comes back after missing a bunch of games right before the season ends. He's fresh for the playoffs, and just kills it.

Meanwhile, no such Load Management for Lillard, who had to go Extra HAM as CJ AND Nurk were out. What happened? We went on an absolute tear, which continued into the OKC series. However, after that series, he was physically and mentally spent. We managed to win the playoff series, but he was basically done by the end.

We still put up a fight against GS - leading more minutes than them, but without a rested Lillard and without Nurk, we lost.

So, I'm OK with Load Management during the first 2/3 of the season, but we should seriously use it down the stretch - on everyone except Nurk! Being rested for the playoffs is extremely important.
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The only load management I see as maybe necessary is occasional back to back games for high load players (mainly Lillard and McCollum)
 
illmatic99 said:
Been saying this for a while here. Look at Dame's total minutes in his career and compare to others drafted around him. Look at how he broke down after the OKC series. This NEEDS to happen. If we want peak Dame in multiple playoff rounds, he can't be expected to carry the team for 75+ regular season games.

CJ had a few redshirt years to start his career so I'm OK with his current load.
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I agree with this.


tlongII said:
I don't believe in load management. I say go after getting HCA throughout the playoffs.
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And I agree with this!


This is driving me crazy.
 
dviss1 said:
Guess what? Neither does Dame.
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I don't think this is true. He definitely wants to play... A LOT. But, even when he was 26, he was talking about not dunking as much to conserve energy and prevent injury. He understands that as he gets older, there needs to be an extra emphasis on taking care of his body. I'm sure that he also understands he's been gassed at the end of the playoffs for the last several years...
 
I don't think this discussion is very interesting without data to back up any of the ideas or opinions.

How can someone suggest 65 games instead of 70 games without any concrete data as justification?
 
blazerboy30 said:
I don't think this discussion is very interesting without data to back up any of the ideas or opinions.

How can someone suggest 65 games instead of 70 games without any concrete data as justification?
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Because unlike robots or Vulcans, human beings often, in all aspects of their lives, have intuitive opinions that need not necessarily be supported by hard data.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Because unlike robots or Vulcans, human beings often, in all aspects of their lives, have intuitive opinions that need not necessarily be supported by hard data.
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Sure, and you know the saying... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.

Humans consistently believe they see patterns in random signals and build "intuition" from that. The stock market is a perfect example.

You think it's an interesting discussion to debate between someone's intuition of limiting minute to 33 mpg vs 36 mpg? Or 70 games vs 74 games? With no supporting data?
 
blazerboy30 said:
Sure, and you know the saying... Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and they usually stink.

Humans consistently believe they see patterns in random signals and build "intuition" from that. The stock market is a perfect example.

You think it's an interesting discussion to debate between someone's intuition of limiting minute to 33 mpg vs 36 mpg? Or 70 games vs 74 games? With no supporting data?
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Whether or not I think it's interesting is irrelevant. If somebody thinks it's interesting, it doesn't harm me if they choose to discuss it.

So I might pose the question: What value is gained in telling other people whether their topic of conversation is interesting to you?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Whether or not I think it's interesting is irrelevant. If somebody thinks it's interesting, it doesn't harm me if they choose to discuss it.

So I might pose the question: What value is gained in telling other people whether their topic of conversation is interesting to you?
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It actually could be an interesting discussion. I was curious if someone had some data suggesting there is a significantly increasing probability of injury or decreased production above some minutes or game threshold.

Otherwise, it's basically a debate about which color underwear the player's dad should wear on Mondays.
 
blazerboy30 said:
It actually could be an interesting discussion. I was curious if someone had some data suggesting there is a significantly increasing probability of injury or decreased production above some minutes or game threshold.
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Crazy thought--why not actually pose that question rather than simply come in and crap on the discussion?

blazerboy30 said:
Otherwise, it's basically a debate about which color underwear the player's dad should wear on Mondays.
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Blue, obviously. :rolleyes:
 
blazerboy30 said:
Have anything to add to the thread yourself?
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Simply defense of every other poster herein.

blazerboy30 said:
This basically sums up what the typical thread looks like on here lately. I'm sure you played in highschool making you an expert on underwear color.
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Nah, I was terrible in high school. But since Monday is essentially "Moon-day" (Lunes en español), and blue is the color most often associated with the moon, and underwear is intended to cover ones "moon", blue is the obvious choice for me for Mondays. But I'd gladly welcome your thoughts on the subject, with or without quantifiable data support.
 
THE HCP said:
It's not worse than telling other people their opinions are always wrong.
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Good thing you would never do such a thing.

THE HCP said:
You sir have never been so wrong in all your life. With your big words and fancy terms. The Dream would baptize The Donkey over and over again! I wish I could take back all my LIKES I've sent your way!
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blazerboy30 said:
It actually could be an interesting discussion. I was curious if someone had some data suggesting there is a significantly increasing probability of injury or decreased production above some minutes or game threshold.

Otherwise, it's basically a debate about which color underwear the player's dad should wear on Mondays.
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Im trying to think of how to obtain such data, what algorithms would look like. Seems like there is a whole lot of variables.

Do you have any ideas?
 
TorturedBlazerFan said:
Im trying to think of how to obtain such data, what algorithms would look like. Seems like there is a whole lot of variables.

Do you have any ideas?
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Compare usage and efficiency in the last 4 games of each of the playoffs in the last 4 years, and compare them to the same in his previous 10 games. I'm sure you'll find a dropoff.
 
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