LOL! Blazers save Courtney Lee trade to Boston! PA's revenge

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Draco said:
Well we had the 41st pick and traded it away for cash; that Greek was the 46th pick. If he was at all on our board wouldn't we have just drafted him?

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So you're saying instead of essentially trading the #41 for cash, #46, a future 2nd and another euro, we should have just taken the guy we got at 46 at 41? And just skipped on getting cash, a future 2nd, and another asset? Well that makes no sense at all.
 
Draco said:
Well we had the 41st pick and traded it away for cash; that Greek was the 46th pick. If he was at all on our board wouldn't we have just drafted him?

Its hard for me to get excited about three moves that seem to primarily be based on saving the team cash. If we had Donald Sterling as an owner fans would be annoyed the team is looking to save money instead of deals that bring in assets. Paul Allen used to go out and buy picks and buy players, now his team is making the opposite deals.
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they also made a max offer on roy hibbert, and matched 11 million per to batum

if a team is going to throw you cash, why say no?

i will admit that might have been the first pick i remember us selling though, maybe olshey had some back room deal going down
 
RR7 said:
So you're saying instead of essentially trading the #41 for cash, #46, a future 2nd and another euro, we should have just taken the guy we got at 46 at 41? And just skipped on getting cash, a future 2nd, and another asset? Well that makes no sense at all.
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no but we could have drafted another player at 41, and then done the samee deal with NY anyways
 
3RA1N1AC said:
no but we could have drafted another player at 41, and then done the samee deal with NY anyways
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we could have, sure. he was saying take the guy at 41 we essentially got at 46. If we got 500,000 for the 41, I can't fault Paul for pocketing cash over a 2nd rounder who won't get much burn for us.
 
We also could have drafted Jordan and Durant.
 
Draco said:
Well we had the 41st pick and traded it away for cash; that Greek was the 46th pick. If he was at all on our board wouldn't we have just drafted him?

Its hard for me to get excited about three moves that seem to primarily be based on saving the team cash. If we had Donald Sterling as an owner fans would be annoyed the team is looking to save money instead of deals that bring in assets. Paul Allen used to go out and buy picks and buy players, now his team is making the opposite deals.
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I understand where you're coming from, but also the landscape has changed since draft day. The Hibbert max contract offer, matching Batum, Claver and Freeland coming over, etc. So, maybe selling the 41st pick made sense at the time as part of the larger picture.

And, now that the dust has settled, we turned Fatty Felton into a veteran role player and good locker room guy, two Euros (one who we might have drafted at 41, if we'd kept the pick) a future second round pick and cash. Given that we would have gladly let Felton walk for nothing, I'd say Olshey did pretty good. Worst case, we acquired some future trading chips and cash and for essentially nothing. Anytime you can get something for nothing, I'd say your doing OK.

BNM
 
Bye Bye Diebler.

HOUSTON - Houston Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey announced today that the team has agreed to a sign-and-trade with guard/forward Courtney Lee, which will send him to the Boston Celtics as part of a three-team trade. The Rockets will receive from Boston a Charlotte Bobcats second-round draft pick in the 2013 NBA Draft, forward JaJuan Johnson, guard E’Twaun Moore and forward/center Sean Williams. The pick was previously acquired by Boston via Oklahoma City. Houston also acquires the rights to guard Jon Diebler from Portland. Boston completes the deal by agreeing to a sign-and-trade with guard/forward Sasha Pavlovic, which sends him to the Trail Blazers.
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http://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-get-players-and-pick-three-team-deal
 
Ya know I was hoping it would be bye bye Babbit.
 
The Portland Trail Blazers have acquired guard Sasha Pavlovic, two 2013 second round draft picks and cash considerations from the Boston Celtics while sending the draft rights to guard Jon Diebler to the Houston Rockets as part of three-team trade, it was announced today by General Manager Neil Olshey.

2 picks. even better
 
TRAIL BLAZERS ACQUIRE SASHA PAVLOVIC AND DRAFT PICKS FROM BOSTON IN THREE-TEAM TRADE
Portland sends draft rights to Jon Diebler to Houston

PORTLAND, Ore. – The Portland Trail Blazers have acquired forward/guard Sasha Pavlovic, two 2013 second round draft picks and cash considerations from the Boston Celtics while sending the draft rights to guard Jon Diebler to the Houston Rockets as part of a three-team trade, it was announced today by General Manager Neil Olshey.

Pavlovic (6-7, 235) was acquired via a sign-and-trade with the Celtics.

“This trade is a continuation of our pursuit of assets, while at the same time helping to bolster our roster,” said Olshey. “We’re looking forward to adding Sasha Pavlovic’s veteran leadership to our squad. He’s a very experienced wing player that we feel can add depth to our rotation.”

Pavlovic, 28, has played nine NBA seasons with Utah, Cleveland, Minnesota, Dallas, New Orleans and Boston. He holds career averages of 5.1 points, 1.8 rebounds, 0.9 assists and 15.8 minutes in 528 games (141 starts).

A native of Bar, Montenegro, Pavlovic spent last season with the Celtics, averaging 2.7 points, 1.6 rebounds and 11.7 minutes in 45 games (seven starts). He averaged a career-high 9.0 points per game while shooting 40.5 percent from 3-point range as a member of the Cavaliers in 2006-07.

A member of Portland's 2012 NBA Summer League team, Diebler spent last season with Panionios of the Greek Basketball League, where he averaged a team-high 10.8 points to go with 3.5 rebounds and 25.6 minutes in 34 games. He shot 45.0 percent from 3-point distance and 84.6 percent from the foul line.

Diebler (6-6, 205) played four seasons at Ohio State from 2007-11, averaging 10.7 points (41.6% 3-PT), 2.8 rebounds, 1.9 assists and 32.5 minutes in 144 games (115 starts). The Big Ten's all-time leader in career 3-pointers made (374), Diebler shot 50.2 percent from beyond the arc as a senior in 2010-11.

Portland originally selected Diebler in the second round (51st overall pick) of the 2011 NBA Draft.

Pavlovic joins France’s Nicolas Batum, Spain’s Victor Claver and Great Britain’s Joel Freeland as the fourth international player on the Trail Blazers roster.
 
if both picks are from Boston, then the other pick they have is Charlotte's 2nd rounder, which is sure to be a pretty high 2nd. I don't believe Houston has their 2nd rounder, so that's likely where it is coming from. If so, even better. Most likely #31-35.
 
Blazers are going to have to start flying the United Nations flag!
 
HailBlazers said:
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It was reported earlier that the "cash considerations" is $ to pay Pavlovic's salary. So, instead of thinking greed, think free player, or better yet think free roster spot. It won't cost us anything to cut Pavlovic (or Price for that matter) and get our 15th roster spot back.

So, we get to trade the rights to a guard for the rights to an SF, which is more likely to be useful in the short term, in addition to a 2nd rounder (possibly a high 2nd rounder)
 
so the #51 into and early 2nd, late 2nd, and pavlovic, and fucking minny in the process

well played olshey, well played
 
Good point, but I think Pavlovic is worth keeping if we don't find another big. We need a back-up SF.
 
HailBlazers said:
Good point, but I think Pavlovic is worth keeping if we don't find another big. We need a back-up SF.
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meh, Claver as backup SF, and wes and babbitt will likely see minutes there as well
 
Pavlovic is better than Babbitt, hopefully Babs sees little to no court time this year.
 
VanillaGorilla said:
Pavlovic is better than Babbitt, hopefully Babs sees little to no court time this year.
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Pavlovic's PER the last five seasons, in chronological order.

7.2
8.6
5.4
6.0
6.7

I'll be shocked if Pavlovic makes the roster, considering Boston is paying his salary.
 
Another good day of work for Mr. Olshey. Now maybe we can bury the Suns in second rounders and Babbitt in exchange for Robin Lopez and call it an off-season.
 
RR7 said:
if both picks are from Boston, then the other pick they have is Charlotte's 2nd rounder, which is sure to be a pretty high 2nd. I don't believe Houston has their 2nd rounder, so that's likely where it is coming from. If so, even better. Most likely #31-35.
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Both picks from Boston but one of those were from Minny! LOL
 
You know, b/w the Felton trade (paying for Jeffries' salary) and this one (paying for Pavlovic), PA's gotta be getting close to the $3M limit you're allowed to bring in, right?
 
BrianFromWA said:
You know, b/w the Felton trade (paying for Jeffries' salary) and this one (paying for Pavlovic), PA's gotta be getting close to the $3M limit you're allowed to bring in, right?
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i thought you could just send out 3?

edit: just saw where it is 3 in as well
 
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You know, it's funny...in January if you told someone here that we're getting rid of Felton, Crawford. Camby, Thomas and Diebler, and getting a Weber St. PG, a white American center, a 170#-shooting guard, Jared Jeffries, Sasha Pavlovic, 2 Greek dudes and selling a draft pick...I think a kahn-level meltdown would've occurred.

Olshey's pretty good at this gig so far.
 
BrianFromWA said:
You know, it's funny...in January if you told someone here that we're getting rid of Felton, Crawford. Camby, Thomas and Diebler, and getting a Weber St. PG, a white American center, a 170#-shooting guard, Jared Jeffries, Sasha Pavlovic, 2 Greek dudes and selling a draft pick...I think a kahn-level meltdown would've occurred.

Olshey's pretty good at this gig so far.
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Imagine if you had been told the day that Brandon retired and Greg had his 12th microfracture.
 
BrianFromWA said:
You know, b/w the Felton trade (paying for Jeffries' salary) and this one (paying for Pavlovic), PA's gotta be getting close to the $3M limit you're allowed to bring in, right?
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Is there a $3M limit in or a $3M limit out or both? I thought it was out only, but I am guessing you know much better than I. Also, do they offset the cash considerations you have received in? I.e. if you get $3M in at some point, can you then later have $6M going out so that net you had a net $3M out for the year?
 
you could only get 3M in, and 3M out. Can't sell something to get 3M, send out 6, then sell something for 6. I asked. ;)
 
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