Look, Blazer players...

[Blazer4ever]

If you don't go out on the P&R, you have no chance.
If you start doing it only in the 2nd quarter, you have no chance.
You have to do it since opening tip!!

Every time Parker or any other guard uses a Duncan/Splitter/Diaw screen, the big guarding their big BECOMES THE GUARD'S DEFENDER. He has to commit fully to guarding his new player, yes, I'm talking about Our big on their small, doesn't matter, do it 100%, don't think rebound, don't think getting back to your man, our guards can hold their bigs + we have another big.
That's our only chance: go out on everything, switch on everything, rotate on everything, from the first possession.
Go Blazers!!

 

[Natebishop3]

The Rockets gave us so much bulletin board material. Dammed Spurs and their respectful bullshit!

 

[blue9]

Every time Parker or any other guard uses a Duncan/Splitter/Diaw screen, the big guarding their big BECOMES THE GUARD'S DEFENDER.

This is called "switching". It's the Nate McMillan philsophy of defending the P/R. And it doesn't even come close to working with our personnel. Neither Lopez nor LMA have the lateral quickness to defend a Guard. One of two things happens:

1 - The guard backs up, the big sags off, and the guard shoots an open jumper.
2 - The guard backs up, the bag sags off, and the guard still shoots right past the big all the way to the hoop.

Instead what we should be doing is have the big meet the guard AT the screen, forcing the guard to move laterally rather than diving down the lane to the hoop. Once this is achieved our guard recovers to the opposing guard, while our big scrambles back to cover the guy who set the screen.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Every time Robin or Lamarcus committed to guarding the guard on a P&R we got good results - every time!
The other players need to be able to rotate and the 2nd big has to work on the cover or on the rebound but it's better than giving Parker an open jumper!!! Come on!! I'll take my chances with any mismatch it creates because Parker just makes these!! Every time we don't go out aggressively Parker gets going and they blow us out...
BTW, T-Rob should be doing the same thing.

 

[Eastoff]

2 - The guard backs up, the bag sags off, and the guard still shoots right past the big all the way to the hoop.

Finally, I'm getting real tired of this guy showing up all the time.

 

[Natebishop3]

This is called "switching". It's the Nate McMillan philsophy of defending the P/R. And it doesn't even come close to working with our personnel. Neither Lopez nor LMA have the lateral quickness to defend a Guard. One of two things happens:

1 - The guard backs up, the big sags off, and the guard shoots an open jumper.
2 - The guard backs up, the bag sags off, and the guard still shoots right past the big all the way to the hoop.

Instead what we should be doing is have the big meet the guard AT the screen, forcing the guard to move laterally rather than diving down the lane to the hoop. Once this is achieved our guard recovers to the opposing guard, while our big scrambles back to cover the guy who set the screen.

Doesn't that leave the big free to dive to the hoop for an easy bucket?

 

[Blazer4ever]

The Big has to stay on the guard, this is essential. He has to stay on him as much as possible even if the guard goes inside.

 

[Blazer4ever]

Our guard of course rotates to their big, he has to at least hold him, Duncan and Splitter aren't in-his-prime Shaq.

 

[blue9]

Doesn't that leave the big free to dive to the hoop for an easy bucket?

Not if you effectively recover. This example isn't ideal, but I don't feel like taking the time to find a better one - you should get the idea well enough:

 

[Natebishop3]

Not if you effectively recover. This example isn't ideal, but I don't feel like taking the time to find a better one - you should get the idea well enough:

Well, most teams probably wouldn't know how to deal with it, but the Spurs aren't most teams. I'm worried Duncan would burn us, but what do we have to lose at this point?

 

[blue9]

Well, most teams probably wouldn't know how to deal with it, but the Spurs aren't most teams. I'm worried Duncan would burn us, but what do we have to lose at this point?

This jumping/recovering defense is generally the most effective when you're trying to contain the ball-handler. If you're not so worried about stopping the ball, and are instead worried about the screener then you'd employ a different style. But since we're playing against Tony Parker the jump/recover is our best and only bet of slowing him down.
But it's far too late in the series to worry about adjustments. Just go play street ball, get a good cheer from the home team as the season ends, then look to improve in the off-season.

 

[Blazer4ever]

The big STAYS on the small!!! He doesn't rotate back-and-forth, he only rotates again if he has a good reason.

 

[Blazer4ever]

A good reason is mostly if they pass inside to one of the bigs, then he should come to help and both he and the guard should be ready to run back out to the opposing guard left open.

 

[BBert]

If you don't go out on the P&R, you have no chance.
If you start doing it only in the 2nd quarter, you have no chance.
You have to do it since opening tip!!

Every time Parker or any other guard uses a Duncan/Splitter/Diaw screen, the big guarding their big BECOMES THE GUARD'S DEFENDER. He has to commit fully to guarding his new player, yes, I'm talking about Our big on their small, doesn't matter, do it 100%, don't think rebound, don't think getting back to your man, our guards can hold their bigs + we have another big.
That's our only chance: go out on everything, switch on everything, rotate on everything, from the first possession.
Go Blazers!!

But...that would be like...making an adjustment, man.

 

[Toros]

Well, there are 2 ways.
1. You can follow Bulls style of defense and ICE the PnR by forcing baseline all the time
2. Hedge hard and double team the guard like what Heat/OKC does which causes lots of problems to the Spurs coz theres not alot of ball-handlers on the team actually and Parker is not a good passer, ginobili is prone to turnovers

 

[Blazer4ever]

Don't think we should double team, then have the big scramble back to their big. I think we should just switch - it's simpler and takes less practice.
Lopez on Duncan, Lillard on Parker>Duncan sets a pick>Robin on Parker, Lillard on Duncan.

 

[LuckyShot]

This jumping/recovering defense is generally the most effective when you're trying to contain the ball-handler. If you're not so worried about stopping the ball, and are instead worried about the screener then you'd employ a different style. But since we're playing against Tony Parker the jump/recover is our best and only bet of slowing him down.

This. The jumping defenders should be applying enough pressure on the ball handler so that he can't make an easy pass to the screener. You should also have a back side defender sagging off just enough into the paint to discourage the easy pass or pick off errant passes. The video you linked earlier shows it pretty clearly. The only thing in that video that will pose a problem is giving one of their 3 point shooters enough space to fire up another shot. I don't see why Terry wouldn't at least try this now. What do we have to lose?

 

[Toros]

Don't think we should double team, then have the big scramble back to their big. I think we should just switch - it's simpler and takes less practice.
Lopez on Duncan, Lillard on Parker>Duncan sets a pick>Robin on Parker, Lillard on Duncan.

Double team and trap to make them reset, then theres no need to scramble back.

Mavericks already tried the switching thing, and Spurs solved it by just resetting after the switch, and 1) bring the big to the 3point line and blow by him, or 2) Bring the big to the 3point line and dump it in to the post.

 

[blue9]

This. The jumping defenders should be applying enough pressure on the ball handler so that he can't make an easy pass to the screener. You should also have a back side defender sagging off just enough into the paint to discourage the easy pass or pick off errant passes. The video you linked earlier shows it pretty clearly. The only thing in that video that will pose a problem is giving one of their 3 point shooters enough space to fire up another shot. I don't see why Terry wouldn't at least try this now. What do we have to lose?

Precisely. The Spurs WILL figure out another way to score if we ever defend their P/R. But why don't we at least try to take away their first and best option?
Switching will result in TOTAL DOMINATION. I mean, MOAR TOTALER DOMINATION.

 

[LuckyShot]

Don't think we should double team, then have the big scramble back to their big. I think we should just switch - it's simpler and takes less practice.
Lopez on Duncan, Lillard on Parker>Duncan sets a pick>Robin on Parker, Lillard on Duncan.

Switching is a recipe for disaster. It just leads to favorable mismatches for the offense. Granted, our current defensive "system" leads to the same thing, but at least Lopez takes on Parker on a part of the floor where he is more comfortable (the paint). Asking Robin to pick up Parker for more than a dribble or two on the perimeter, with no help coming, is just silly. Switching only works when your defenders are fairly interchangeable. Like when we go small.

 

[LuckyShot]

Double team and trap to make them reset, then theres no need to scramble back.

This is exactly what teams do to us.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

This jumping/recovering defense is generally the most effective when you're trying to contain the ball-handler. If you're not so worried about stopping the ball, and are instead worried about the screener then you'd employ a different style. But since we're playing against Tony Parker the jump/recover is our best and only bet of slowing him down.
But it's far too late in the series to worry about adjustments. Just go play street ball, get a good cheer from the home team as the season ends, then look to improve in the off-season.

This. The jumping defenders should be applying enough pressure on the ball handler so that he can't make an easy pass to the screener. You should also have a back side defender sagging off just enough into the paint to discourage the easy pass or pick off errant passes. The video you linked earlier shows it pretty clearly. The only thing in that video that will pose a problem is giving one of their 3 point shooters enough space to fire up another shot. I don't see why Terry wouldn't at least try this now. What do we have to lose?

Precisely. The Spurs WILL figure out another way to score if we ever defend their P/R. But why don't we at least try to take away their first and best option?
Switching will result in TOTAL DOMINATION. I mean, MOAR TOTALER DOMINATION.

Agreed 100%. I've always just assumed that hedging and getting back was clearly the best way to defend a pick and roll with a great guard. It's been really frustrating to watch us not even try it.

 

[Blazer4ever]

We should flat-out switch. Your tactic is too complicated, if not played perfectly you give Parker a chance to shoot or pass inside on both switches. I say switch and stay with new assignments, then be ready to switch again if nessecary.

 

[BBert]

I'd say hedge and get back, but I'm not convinced Lopez can do it. The double team tactic might be worth a try. It works on us. I mean not do it every time, but every once in a while to throw them off. For that matter, alternate doing all three (four) approaches so they don't know which one is coming next, just to try to get them off balance once in a while. One thing is for sure, they have been 'on balance' this whole series. It's not like we could do worse.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I mean Duncan, Diaw and Splitter aren't the most athletic big guys there are.. I feel like Lopez should be able to do fine.

 

[blue9]

We should flat-out switch. Your tactic is too complicated, if not played perfectly you give Parker a chance to shoot or pass inside on both switches. I say switch and stay with new assignments, then be ready to switch again if nessecary.

You are Nate McMillan?