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Outkast splits up!
mediatakeout.com

August 7.

For years insiders have been predicting the break up of the famed group Outkast. It now appears that their predictions have finally come true. MediaTakeOut.com has learned that the Atlanta duo has officially decided to part ways.

Over the weekend two Atlanta producers told MediaTakeOut.com that Outkast has decided to call it quits. According to one producer who worked closely with the group, "Andre isn't interested in making hip-hop music anymore, so there really isn't a purpose for Outkast."

And Andre Benjamin's public remarks seem to confirm the producers' account. In a 2003 interview with the New York Times, Benjamin said that he was no longer interested in hip hop, explaining, "I don't feel the music the same way I did when I first got into hip-hop." And last year during an interview with London's The Guardian, Benjamin told a reporter that he was ready to step away from his music career.

Andre's ambivalence about his music career has already cost the duo millions of dollars in touring fees. Outcast fans begged the group for a world tour after its last album sold 10 million records. But the wanna-be-actor refused to go on tour with his partner, Antwon "Big Boi" Patton. Instead of having an Outkast tour, Big Boi was forced to go on tour as one of the opening acts for Usher and Kanye West.

But with rumors of a break up swirling for a couple of years, the question remains - why didn't Outkast break up sooner? One music industry insider claims to have the answer to the question. According to our tipster, Outkast's contract with LaFace records contained a clause granting the group an additional $10M if they were able to complete a seventh album. Their seventh album - Idlewild is scheduled to be released in stores on August 28th.

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I can't say it surprises me considering they didn't work together on The Love Below and they only did 4 songs together on the new album, but it kinda sucks that my favorite group won't be making music together anymore.
 
I dont know if i'd call andre a "wannabe" actor. He was good in four brothers, and seems to be getting solid roles. I never really like outcast besides their first few hits.
 
Wasn't Andre scheduled to play Jimi Hendrix in an upcoming film?

It sucks to see them go and they are one of the best musical groups ever.
 
Andre knows what he wants. I don't blame him.
 
all good things come to an end, and Kast has been doin it since I was in elementary school blazin ATLiens so if they feel it's time artistically then you can't really be mad at them.
 
With a **** bag song like that new one (Morris Brown its called I think) by big boi, I'm glad they've split up. What pisses me off even more is that the song is stuck in my head.
 
This sucks....They were my favorite. I will buy all their albums as they are obvious keep sakes and are great nonetheless.
 
Outkast Didn't Break up

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1538157/0...?headlines=true

Andre said he was in shock when he heard that rumor, and he assured that, that rumor was false.

Yes!!!
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^^Beat me to it! I'm glad it's false and they may perform in a video together for the first time in a while!!!!
 
for some odd reason I still think the break up might be true....I mean in reality they are broken up, they only did 4 songs together on the new album.
 
Yeah, in truth, they really aren't doing much together. I mean, I heard Andre and Big Boi even have seperate tour buses. The two just don't seem to have it together like they did back with ATLiens and the earlier albums.

I shame though, but if they lost inspiration, there really isn't anything you can do about it.
 
I think Outkast are pretty overated anyway, I didnt think ATLiens or any of their older albums were that great, I've heard better from other artists.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Outkast are pretty overated anyway, I didnt think ATLiens or any of their older albums were that great, I've heard better from other artists.</div> i hear what youre saying but look ATLiens is 11 years old. how many hiphop albums that are 11 years old can you listen to today and feel? in 30 years Outkast will be looked at as one of the defining artists of this era. there are a lot of other good rappers out there like Big L, Kool G, Ghostface, etc. but none of them will be able to claim that. outkast is bigger than hiphop. more non-hip-hop fans have an outkast CD that have never even heard of wu-tang or gang starr. even lesbians listen to outkast. i've seen college kids that have 1000 CDs and only one of them is hiphop and it's always outkast. they crossed over more people than Eminem and he's white. they are like the prince or michael jackson of our time. you might not like 'kast that much but their place in pop culture is huge.
 
^^ i totally agree i have a lot of friends that listen to punl/metal and i went over some of thier houses and they'd have like a bunch of punk and metal cd's and all of them had an outkast cd.
 
Yeah but those people dont have the CD's because of Outkasts impact on the scene, more so because they're the kool thing at the time (eg. "Ms. Jackson", "Hey Ya" etc.).

Most people dont buy Outkast albums thinking "oh man, this ish will be the truth". Those people arnt the real heads though of course, but I'm just saying, thats really the only reason they have such a big pop culture following. Not to mention those songs they have released to the mainstream have been quite bizare.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Outkast are pretty overated anyway, I didnt think ATLiens or any of their older albums were that great, I've heard better from other artists.</div>

Outkast > damn near everybody...lol....just because they attract a broad audience doesn't make them "pop" or not for the "real heads"...I am a head, but Outkast is my favorite group because they have been consistent over the years, lyrically they always come correct (even when Dre's singing), and they have their classics.....I notice that a lot of "heads" don't like giving Andre his props because he wears a wig and does funny videos and well......."that jus ain't hip hop", but they'll be quick to love someone like Big L (who was also great and who I'm also a fan of) props because he seems to represent what "hip hop is"....Dre is a top 10 MC EASILY if you really wanna break it down pound for pound.
 
Sorry, but no way in hell is Andre 3000 a top 10 MC, I would go as far as saying not even top 20.

Are Outkast great? Hell yes, but they're not the greatest thing to happen to Hip Hop.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Playmaker15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wasn't Andre scheduled to play Jimi Hendrix in an upcoming film?</div>

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Where did you hear this? what film?
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NTC187:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, but no way in hell is Andre 3000 a top 10 MC, I would go as far as saying not even top 20.

Are Outkast great? Hell yes, but they're not the greatest thing to happen to Hip Hop.</div>

I don't think anyone rated Andre that high up.
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I may be wrong.

They are truly this decades greatest duo though.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Franchise4Ever:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think anyone rated Andre that high up.
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I may be wrong.

They are truly this decades greatest duo though.</div>

THE DREAM said Andre 3000 was easily one of the top 10 greatest rappers of all time, which isnt the case. I dont mean to downplay his ability, he is good, very good, but I can name more than 10 rappers who are/were better than Dre.

Also you better be actually be talking about this decade, because Gang Starr owned the 90's.
 
^^^^Andre 3000 > Guru....and I love Gangstarr, but lets be honest Premo made Gangstarr, Guru's monotone voice can be kinda boring at times..I prefer Jeru or KRS One rockin a premo joint anyday.........I'm just interested in the "20" MCs who you think are better than Andre Ben....and I'm talkin on impact, lyrics, musically, creatively, performing live, consistency, etc.....and please don't say Big L (who only had 1 good album).....my top 10 looks something like this

not neccesarily in this order

1. KRS One
2. Rakim
3. Ice Cube
4. Andre 3000
5. Nas
6. Common
7. Chuck D
8. Scarface
9. Kool G. Rap
10. 2 Pac (although a lot of people tend to overrate him I believe he belongs here)

All the men I listed have had a huge impact, for the most part they consistently drop good albums, they're all creative, and they all have their musical classics

honorable mentions: Black Thought, Ghostface, Biggie, Jay Z, Big Pun, Big Daddy Kane, etc.
 
Premo made Guru? Are you insane? They complement each other. Guru is a much more talented lyricist than Andre Benjamin ever was, or ever will be. The fact that Guru has a fairly plain voice, yet still manages to keep you captivated goes to show how talented of a lyricist he really is.

Ten MC's better than Andre Benjamin (no order):

1. Guru
2. Rakim
3. Nas
4. Big L
5. Notorious B.I.G.
6. Kool G. Rap
7. Common
8. KRS One
9. Scarface
10. Jeru The Damaja
 
Guru a better lyricist than Andre Ben???....nah I can't say that, Andre drops jewels for days

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No, I ain't never been pimped by the system
That's because I ain't no slave
Don't be tryin to sunbathe, never lived off in no cave
Bloody old chap and in this head of mine is full of naps
And the only thing I know is how to **** and how to rap?
Y'all think I'm stupid cuz I shoots 'em up like cupid
And if you gave me a basketball, I'll show you how to shoot it
My head's polluted cause I'm zooted, bobbin to the bottom
If a pair of Jordan's came out, y'all figure that I got 'em
But no I don't because I don't be havin funds
The gold that I am wearin is really made out of bronze
It weighs a ton and makin my neck turn green
And I got a criminal record that will never come clean
Oh, and it seems that I make babies like a rabbit
And then never taking care of them has just become a habit
I grab my tablet and get busy with the pen
Y'all could not be just like me if y'all was my twin
So you get mad and try to make me inferior
You pissin me off, I'm in that ass like interior
Oh, step in my Cadillac, let's ride through the hood
Eh, why don't you roll that window down so you can see it real good

And take a look at all the pimps and all the pushers and the players
That's livin on a whim, thin ice and a prayer
Oh and mayor, can I get a little backup
Please don't let them ***** muthaf***as put that flag up
But let me shut up cause they say we need dough
whenever the f**k out record comes out in 1994
</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dearly beloved we are gathered,
like soap is to lather we come clean
Some issues need to be addressed like envelopes I mean
Oh like Liberty Bells yes them bullets keep on rangin
On fire like the Georgia mass choir we keep on sangin
Bringin our folks closer together cause they severed us from the get green
Light and we ain't gon' stop until we hit the big screen
Psych because no one is free when others are oppressed
So, we hit the stage and then we fly back to our nest
Growing old

</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Twice upon a time there was a boy who died twice
and lived happily ever after but that's another chapter
live from home of the brave with dirty dollars
& beauty parlors & baby bottles & bowling ball Impalas
& street scholars that's majoring in culinary arts
You know how to work bread cheese & dough
from scratch but see the catch is you can get caught
Know what ya sellin' what ya bought so cut that big talk
Let's walk to the bridge now meet me halfway
now you may see some children dead off in the pathway
it's them poor babies walkin' slowly to the candy lady
It's lookin' bad need some hope
like the words maybe, if, or probably more than a hobby
when my turntables get wobbly they don't fall
I'm sorry y'all I often drift I'm talkin' gift
so when it comes you never look the horse inside it's grill
of course you know I feel like the bearer of bad news
Don't want to be it but it's needed so what have you
Now question is every ***** with dreads for the cause?
Is every ***** with golds for the fall? Naw
So don't get caught in appearance
it's Outkast Aquemini another Black experience
</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">My mind warps and bends floats the wind count to ten
meet the twin Andre Ben. welcome to the lion's den
original skin many men comprehend
I extend myself so you go out & tell a friend
Sin all depends on what you believing in
Faith is what you make it that's the hardest **** since MC Ren
Alien can blend right on in wit' yo' kin
look again 'cause I swear I spot one every now & then
It's happenin' again wish I could tell you when
Andre this is Andre y'all just gon' have to make amends
</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Baby did you hear that yea baby I heard it too
Look out the window golly the sky is electric blue
Mamma Earth is dyin and cryin because of you
Rainin cats and jackles all shackles disintegrate, to residue
Silly mortals haven't a clue
as to what the **** is goin on
I'm on the telephone, dialin the Dungeon
"Hello?" This Dre, bring the MP and the SP
Meet me at the center of the earth and travel carefully
Baby grab the baby cause baby it ain't much time
Mamma Earth is tossin and turnin and that's our sign
Omega ***** IFO's are landin in Decatur
Hope I'm not over your head but if so you will catch on later
Play the track, guess she could not take it anymo'
Rapin her heavenly body like a hoe, coochie so'
from niggaz constantly fuckin her never lovin her never showin
appreciation bustin nuts in her face when they done
</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Me and everything around me, is unstable like Chernobyl
Ready to go at any moment, jumpin like a pogo stick
Life never lived up to my expectations, so I accept the patience
Expect the worse but now I'm pacin, back and forth
Inside I'm melting like water on wicked witches
A monster truck done came and ran over my picket fences
I had the best of life in my clinches but monkey wrenches was thrown
Like chairs kings sit on, my prayers seem to long
I fall asleep before the endin, don't even get to say Amen
I hope He understand I be on bended knees
At times, I think I'm crazy, so I say forget it
Or maybe it's the devil infiltrating and like Riddick...Bowe
I've been fighting this since them fetus days
I count from one to twenty, when I'm through, repeat the phrase
It's just a phase, it's gon all pass, but that gets old too
I'm weakening like a deacon doin dirt
What am I supposed to do?
</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Everybody wanna get signed, but (here to tell you)
record companies act like pimps
Gettin paid off what we made when we the ones that's fly like blimps
But ain't no Goodyear, I tell it like it is so I'm like look here
Just willin to get what I deserve my kids to have a mother
and a little house, with a dog in the backyard goin "woof-woof"
Who knows what I'ma say soon's I leave this recording booth
Poof, back in the real world where birds fly
From Miami by way of Cuba to whoever wants to get that high
There's clouds of clowns, seas of G's
Pro-jects, packed with playas meditating on their knees
Just to make them ends meet, like ground beef, you won't believe
The **** that niggaz attempt cause they got other mouths to feed
besides they own
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Guru is a dope lyricist, but his wordplay just isn't on that Andre 3000 level......and sorry homie Big L was a dope MC, but not dope enough to be top 10....he had one good album.......one....you can't be a top 10 MC, with one good album....I love Pun to death and honestly I think he would've lived on to be a top 10 MC, but similar to L he had one good album........one....and besides that Big L for the most part never really changed his subject matter up, Andre is a lot more versatile (so are Cube, Pac, Ice T, Ghostface, Blackthought, Mos Def, Chuck D, GZA, Redman, Lauryn Hill, etc.)....with the exception of L your top 10 is pretty straight though....and just for good measure this is my favorite Guru verse

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Peace to my man Hass, and Orange Man payin the cost
All the twenty-five to lifers all my brothers gettin tossed
into the system, supposed to rehabilitate
It's why you gotta regulate your own mindstate
Read, study lessons and build your inner power
The next level, doesn't tolerate cowards
For example, I know this rich Nigerian
Powerful American that's proud to be an African
He asked me why do all us brothers be gettin trapped
I told him I'd explain it broke it down in a rap
Whether you got naps, braids waves or no hair
Without esteem for yourself *****, you goin nowhere
And you can swagger like you rule this; Josey Wales
unorganized revolt almost always mostly fails
Give up the savage ways, be effective soldiers
To elevate the mental is to be poor no more
There's war in the streets, prepared men know best
Our rhyme as live as it gets, JFK 2 LAX
They're always makin trouble yo, against the righteous
Killin us in cold blood, those beats those vipers
And as I sit feelin the pain in my wrist
I vow to myself that I'ma change this ****
Or at least I gotta try, or part of me will die
And only by action will any ideas solidify
So I inhale, exhale as I ponder
This grown man will make mistakes no longer
I've been there, I've seen how they make us fall victim
to their tricknowledgy, with no apology I diss em
And so I rip facts to dope tracks I caress
You're gonna hear about it, from JFK 2 LAX
</div>
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">Guru a better lyricist than Andre Ben???....nah I can't say that, Andre drops jewels for days

Guru is a dope lyricist, but his wordplay just isn't on that Andre 3000 level......and sorry homie Big L was a dope MC, but not dope enough to be top 10....he had one good album.......one....you can't be a top 10 MC, with one good album....I love Pun to death and honestly I think he would've lived on to be a top 10 MC, but similar to L he had one good album........one....and besides that Big L for the most part never really changed his subject matter up, Andre is a lot more versatile (so are Cube, Pac, Ice T, Ghostface, Blackthought, Mos Def, Chuck D, GZA, Redman, Lauryn Hill, etc.)....with the exception of L your top 10 is pretty straight though....and just for good measure this is my favorite Guru verse</div>

You're right, Gurus wordplay isnt on Andre's level, its above it. Those verses you posted of his were good, but I've heard better from Guru and other artists. The parts you bolded out especially wernt anything special.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh, step in my Cadillac, let's ride through the hood
Eh, why don't you roll that window down so you can see it real good</div>

How thats a great verse is beyond me.

Now onto the Big L debate. I hate when people say "oh so and so cant be a top MC because they only put out one album", thats rubbish in my book, if an MC is great, it doesnt matter how many albums they put out. Biggie only put out 1 good album aswell, yet 90% of Hip-Hop heads will put him in their top 10's.

Big L actually released quite alot of material during his time, with all the D.I.T.C and C.O.C stuff aswell as solo material, he has quite a collection. Yes Big L rapped about the same subject matter most of the time, but to me thats not what made him so great, it was the way he spit. His use of wordplay, multies, metaphors, pace changing, freestyle ability etc. is what makes him a top 10 MC to me, because I cant find any other MC who could or can spit it like L could. The only person I can think of that comes close to L (in terms of what I mentioned above) is Mos Def.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">How thats a great verse is beyond me.

Now onto the Big L debate. I hate when people say "oh so and so cant be a top MC because they only put out one album", thats rubbish in my book, if an MC is great, it doesnt matter how many albums they put out. Biggie only put out 1 good album aswell, yet 90% of Hip-Hop heads will put him in their top 10's.

Big L actually released quite alot of material during his time, with all the D.I.T.C and C.O.C stuff aswell as solo material, he has quite a collection. Yes Big L rapped about the same subject matter most of the time, but to me thats not what made him so great, it was the way he spit. His use of wordplay, multies, metaphors, pace changing, freestyle ability etc. is what makes him a top 10 MC to me, because I cant find any other MC who could or can spit it like L could. The only person I can think of that comes close to L (in terms of what I mentioned above) is Mos Def.</div>

The imagery of the verse made it great...just think of a guy (particulary a rich man) rollin through the hood in his expensive car with his windows rolled up....in a sense it's like he has no knowledge of what's going on....so when Andre says roll the window down, he's actually saying take the blinders off and experience it first hand yourself so you will no longer be ignorant to what really goes on.........that's the thing with great lyricism, it's a rhyme within a rhyme...something that can be simple can be sooooooooo complex if the listener wants to look deep enough.


As far as Biggie goes he had 2 great albums and one of them was a double disc....so essentially 3 disc of material that we can judge him on when he was alive....L had lifestylez of the poor and dangerous....and that's it....and like you mentioned he was one dimensional for the most part....I'm a fan of L, but a top 10 MC imo should be able to switch is subject matter up from time to time....I will agree that he had a great flow, punches, freestyling ability, etc.....but so do Chino XL and Eminem (well the old Eminem), Canibus, Ras Kass, Redman and a bunch of other dudes who are imo better than L in some of those categories....L was a special talent, but artistically speaking he wasn't that creative or innovative like the rest of the people on my list....ATLiens, Death Certificate, It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back, 36 Chambers, Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, Illadelph Halflife are just on another level musically and artistically than LSPD...and that's on a production, creative, and lyrical standpoint....I mentioned those albums because those artist (Cube, Andre, Chuck D, Lauryn Hill, Black Thought, GZA and Ghostface) were left off of your list in place of Big L.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting THE DREAM:</div><div class="quote_post">^^^^Andre 3000 > Guru....and I love Gangstarr, but lets be honest Premo made Gangstarr, Guru's monotone voice can be kinda boring at times..I prefer Jeru or KRS One rockin a premo joint anyday.........I'm just interested in the "20" MCs who you think are better than Andre Ben....and I'm talkin on impact, lyrics, musically, creatively, performing live, consistency, etc.....and please don't say Big L (who only had 1 good album).....my top 10 looks something like this

not neccesarily in this order

1. KRS One
2. Rakim
3. Ice Cube
4. Andre 3000
5. Nas
6. Common
7. Chuck D
8. Scarface
9. Kool G. Rap
10. 2 Pac (although a lot of people tend to overrate him I believe he belongs here)

All the men I listed have had a huge impact, for the most part they consistently drop good albums, they're all creative, and they all have their musical classics

honorable mentions: Black Thought, Ghostface, Biggie, Jay Z, Big Pun, Big Daddy Kane, etc.</div>

I agree with everything you say except for WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR KWELI? In my mind he is top 10 alltime and better than Common and Black Thought (who are both still Gods of hiphop). Big L was very good, but he wouldn't even crack the top 30 alltime over guys like Kurupt and Ras Kass. Face it, he's given more props cause he's dead. It's good to see you rate Ice Cube and Andre as the great artists they are. And Ghostface is the best wu rapper, well said. how do you like Fishscale?
 

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