Looks like were playing the Lakers in the 1st round

[Nate Dogg]

We will lose to the lakers by the 5th game. Quote me like a Mixum post!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'm a bit surprised at Ron's 12.4 PER

 

[DaRizzle]

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[KingSpeed]

So quitting on your team is okay if it's on a big enough stage?

No. If you read the thread, you'll see that TSE was saying that Miller was sending a message to the league with his quote. I stated that the league and the refs don't read Oregonlive.com. But Pop's quote was to ESPN.com, a much more visible source so in that case, I can believe that he is sending a message to the league and the refs. He knows what he's doing. He's won titles. Miller just came off as a jaded loser talking to the local paper.

 

[axs88]

No. If you read the thread, you'll see that TSE was saying that Miller was sending a message to the league with his quote. I stated that the league and the refs don't read Oregonlive.com. But Pop's quote was to ESPN.com, a much more visible source so in that case, I can believe that he is sending a message to the league and the refs. He knows what he's doing. He's won titles. Miller just came off as a jaded loser talking to the local paper.

I'm pretty sure the Oregon article was quoted on ESPN insider, Hoopshype etc., since they collect all the stuff from local papers.

 

[KingSpeed]

I'm pretty sure the Oregon article was quoted on ESPN insider, Hoopshype etc., since they collect all the stuff from local papers.

link?

 

[e_blazer]

Way too soon to be saying that the Blazers are going to end up in the 8th spot. Looking just at the loss column, the Blazers have 30 losses, the Spurs 29, and the Thunder 28. Here are the remaining schedules:

Blazers: Wed 07 @ LA Clippers, Fri 09 vs Dallas, Sun 11 @ LA Lakers, Mon 12 vs Thunder, Wed 14 vs Warriors

Spurs: 06 @ Kings, 07 @ Suns, 09 vs Memphis, 10 @ Denver, 12 vs Minn, 14 @ Dallas

Thunder: 06 @ Utah, 07 vs Denver, 09 vs Suns, 11 @ Warriors, 12 @ Blazers, 14 vs Memphis

The Blazers have no back to backs, 3 games against playoff teams, and 2 of those are at home. Assuming that they take care of business at home against the Mavs and Thunder, they could finish with 31 losses.

The Spurs also have 3 games left against playoff teams. All of them are on the road and 2 of them are the second game in back to back situations. The other is against the Jazz in Salt Lake. The Spurs have been playing great lately, but it would be pretty easy for them to lose 2 or 3 of those games and end up with 31 or 32 losses. The Blazers have the tie-breaker over the Spurs having beaten them 3 straight times this season.

The Thunder have 4 games left against playoff teams, with 2 of them on the road. Two of them, including the game against the Blazers are the 2nd game of back to backs. I'd say it's pretty likely that they lose at least 3 of the games against the Jazz, Denver, Suns, & Blazers and end up with at least 31 losses. The Blazers will have the tie-breaker over them if they beat them on the 12th.

My crystal ball's not too good, but I'm not pencilling in a first rounder against the Lakers just yet.

 

[Minstrel]

No. If you read the thread, you'll see that TSE was saying that Miller was sending a message to the league with his quote. I stated that the league and the refs don't read Oregonlive.com. But Pop's quote was to ESPN.com, a much more visible source so in that case, I can believe that he is sending a message to the league and the refs.

So quitting on your team is okay if you send a message to refs? That message being "We're losers and thus have to blame you guys!"

Wow, your endorsement of quitting on one's team is a bit disturbing, KingSpeed.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

So quitting on your team is okay if you send a message to refs? That message being "We're losers and thus have to blame you guys!"

Wow, your endorsement of quitting on one's team is a bit disturbing, KingSpeed.

I think he's confused by his own attempts at logic.

 

[tlongII]

Way too soon to be saying that the Blazers are going to end up in the 8th spot. Looking just at the loss column, the Blazers have 30 losses, the Spurs 29, and the Thunder 28. Here are the remaining schedules:

Blazers: Wed 07 @ LA Clippers, Fri 09 vs Dallas, Sun 11 @ LA Lakers, Mon 12 vs Thunder, Wed 14 vs Warriors

Spurs: 06 @ Kings, 07 @ Suns, 09 vs Memphis, 10 @ Denver, 12 vs Minn, 14 @ Dallas

Thunder: 06 @ Utah, 07 vs Denver, 09 vs Suns, 11 @ Warriors, 12 @ Blazers, 14 vs Memphis

The Blazers have no back to backs, 3 games against playoff teams, and 2 of those are at home. Assuming that they take care of business at home against the Mavs and Thunder, they could finish with 31 losses.

The Spurs also have 3 games left against playoff teams. All of them are on the road and 2 of them are the second game in back to back situations. The other is against the Jazz in Salt Lake. The Spurs have been playing great lately, but it would be pretty easy for them to lose 2 or 3 of those games and end up with 31 or 32 losses. The Blazers have the tie-breaker over the Spurs having beaten them 3 straight times this season.

The Thunder have 4 games left against playoff teams, with 2 of them on the road. Two of them, including the game against the Blazers are the 2nd game of back to backs. I'd say it's pretty likely that they lose at least 3 of the games against the Jazz, Denver, Suns, & Blazers and end up with at least 31 losses. The Blazers will have the tie-breaker over them if they beat them on the 12th.

My crystal ball's not too good, but I'm not pencilling in a first rounder against the Lakers just yet.

Lakers and OKC is a back-to-back.

 

[MickZagger]

We will lose to the lakers by the 5th game. Quote me like a Mixum post!

Part of the fun of being a fan for me, is ultimate optimism. I never understand when supposed fans take pride in their pessimistic approach.

 

[Minstrel]

Part of the fun of being a fan for me, is ultimate optimism. I never understand when supposed fans take pride in their pessimistic approach.

Why be optimistic or pessimistic? My approach is to strive for realistic evaluation (as I see it, of course). We all want the best cases...I just don't see a point to expecting them, if it's unrealistic, or expecting the worst cases (again, if unrealistic).

I think the fun of being a fan is following something closely and being happy when things go well.

Just my view, of course. Everyone is free to be a fan in their own way.

 

[THE HCP]

Why be optimistic or pessimistic? My approach is to strive for realistic evaluation (as I see it, of course). We all want the best cases...I just don't see a point to expecting them, if it's unrealistic, or expecting the worst cases (again, if unrealistic).

I think the fun of being a fan is following something closely and being happy when things go well.

Just my view, of course. Everyone is free to be a fan in their own way.

I'm embarrassed to say I completely agree with you.

 

[MickZagger]

Why be optimistic or pessimistic? My approach is to strive for realistic evaluation (as I see it, of course). We all want the best cases...I just don't see a point to expecting them, if it's unrealistic, or expecting the worst cases (again, if unrealistic).

I think the fun of being a fan is following something closely and being happy when things go well.

Just my view, of course. Everyone is free to be a fan in their own way.

Its not about being one or the other. But, I get a kick out of the fans on here who predict doom on the Blazers because its easy for them to do. Its kind of cliche around these parts.

 

[KingSpeed]

So quitting on your team is okay if you send a message to refs? That message being "We're losers and thus have to blame you guys!"

Wow, your endorsement of quitting on one's team is a bit disturbing, KingSpeed.

Nope. Read the thread. SBE was saying that Miller's quote was in fact not him saying that he was a loser but that he was trying to manipulate the refs through the press.

I don't endorse quitting on the team at all. Quite the opposite. I was merely refuting SBE's post.

Read the fucking thread.

 

[KingSpeed]

Why be optimistic or pessimistic? My approach is to strive for realistic evaluation (as I see it, of course). We all want the best cases...I just don't see a point to expecting them, if it's unrealistic, or expecting the worst cases (again, if unrealistic).

I think the fun of being a fan is following something closely and being happy when things go well.

Just my view, of course. Everyone is free to be a fan in their own way.

Ummm... it doesn't matter if we're pessimistic or optimistic. That has no impact on the game. But it DOES matter if our players are pessimistic or optimistic. Winning begins in your head and if you don't believe in your team, you can't win.

 

[Minstrel]

Nope. Read the thread. SBE was saying that Miller's quote was in fact not him saying that he was a loser but that he was trying to manipulate the refs through the press.

You weren't refuting anything. You said this:

"Pop has won championships and his quote was in a national article. You can't compare him to Miller who has never gotten out of the first round of the playoffs."

It's pretty clear that you're saying that it's reasonable for Popovich to do it, it's not reasonable for Miller to do it. And you gave your reasons for why the difference...pretty silly ones, IMO.

Nothing in that refutes what SBE said, it's all aimed at suggesting that Popovich is different and can get away with the same actions.

Read your fucking posts.

 

[Minstrel]

Ummm... it doesn't matter if we're pessimistic or optimistic.
...
[meaningless pop-psychology platitudes snipped]

I never said it "mattered." I provided my own outlook as a fan...an attempt at realistic evaluation instead of optimism or pessimism.

Read the fucking thread then post.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Is Kingspeed confusing himself again?

 

[KingSpeed]

Roy has the right attitude:

“If we get in a seven-game series, we can beat any team."

That is the attitude I want EVERYONE on our team to have. How can you be happy with what Miller said? Roy is a winner and hopefully, he'll slap some sense into Miller.

 

[KingSpeed]

Here's a quote from another winner:

"So even though, big, big, key components of the team may not have been with us at the time, we still believed in each other and believed in ourselves." - Allan Houston

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ba.../eastern/news/1999/06/11/pacers_knicks_game6/

Allan Houston's Knicks were the #8 seed that season and yet they reached the NBA Finals. I never heard Houston say that his team had no chance in the first round.

Camby was on that team. He needs to slap some sense into Miller as well.

 

[Minstrel]

Roy has the right attitude

Roy sounds dangerously unbalanced. Not objective enough to be a top-flight shooting guard.

That is the attitude I want EVERYONE on our team to have.

I'd like the players to be cautiously optimistic with a good understanding relative team strengths, factoring in PER, win shares and +/-.

How can you be happy with what Miller said?

I like Miller's quiet rationality.

Roy is a winner and hopefully, he'll slap some sense into Miller.

Violence is exactly the danger with people as irrationally exuberant as Roy. I can't believe you're condoning and even encouraging criminal behaviour from Roy.

 

[e_blazer]

Who needs sitcoms when there's this board to visit for laughs?