Lord help us - The Perry Super Thread!

[SlyPokerDog]

Texas Governor Rick Perry to run for President

HOUSTON, Aug 11 (Reuters) - Texas Governor Rick Perry, a staunch conservative with a Washington outsider's resume, will seek the 2012 Republican nomination for U.S. president, his spokesman said on Thursday, adding a top contender to the party's field of hopefuls.

"He will make a definitive announcement on Saturday for the race," Perry spokesman Mark Miner said. Asked if Perry is indeed joining the race, Miner said, "Yes."
Perry's long-awaited entry promises to reshape the crowded race for the Republican nomination, placing him instantly at or near the top and potentially pushing out several candidates who have failed to gain traction in poll ratings or fundraising.

The eventual Republican nominee will seek to deny Democratic President Barack Obama a second term in office in the November 2012 election. Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney is the early front-runner for the nomination but is seen as vulnerable.

"I think Perry will shoot to the top of the polls right away, and be neck and neck with Romney," said Cal Jillson, a political scientist at Southern Methodist University in Texas.
His campaign confirmed he would run hours before a Thursday night debate among eight other Republican hopefuls in Iowa. His formal announcement on Saturday may steal the spotlight from the Iowa straw poll, a mock election seen as an early test of the candidates' strength, also taking place that same day.
Opinion polls put Perry in the top tier of Republican candidates. He has the political background as Texas' longest-serving governor and fundraising acumen to be a formidable challenger to Obama. He has never lost an election.

A Christian conservative who said he felt "called" to a presidential run, Perry also touts a strong job-creation record in Texas. This could allow him to bridge the gaps between Republicans more focused on social issues such as opposition to gay marriage and abortion, the new activist Tea Party fiscal conservatives and the party's more centrist pro-business wing.

His formal announcement will come a week after Perry led a religious rally that drew tens of thousands of people to a stadium in Houston last Saturday. Religious conservatives play a big role in the Republican nominating race.

 

[Mediocre Man]

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Go Rick!!!!!

I voted for him for Governor, and I will vote for him when he runs for the Presidency

 

[Denny Crane]

The article makes the points I would. He should get the religious right vote and the tea party vote. If independents aren't turned off by his being a religious fellow, and his rhetoric isn't too threatening on the social side, he could poll extremely well.

 

[Denny Crane]

Oh yeah, be afraid of the big crowds he seems to draw.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

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A Christian conservative who said he felt "called" to a presidential run

That alone scares me.

But I'll watch the debates tonight to see what he is all about. Next 72 hours should be a very interesting

 

[3RA1N1AC]

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MM tell me about him please

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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MM tell me about him please

He held a giant prayer rally last weekend.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/rick-perry-speech-prayer-rally_n_920157.html

 

[jlprk]

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He went to what is basically a 4-year community college, Texas A & M. His college transcript is at the bottom of this.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...cript_n_919357.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000008

 

[jlprk]

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A different article from that one.

KAY BAILY HUTCHISON WON'T ENDORSE PERRY FOR PRESIDENT...

Back in college, Rick Perry got a C in animal breeding, in case you were curious. Jason Cherkis obtained Perry's college transcript from Texas A&M. Aside from the animal sex class, other lackluster grades included a D in Shakespeare, a D in the principles of economics and a C in gym. Perry did, however, get an A in world military systems, which suggests that this was a not-stupid guy who just didn't care about effeminate liberal arts-y pursuits. Behold this quintessentially Texas quote from a former Perry classmate: "A&M wasn't exactly Harvard on the Brazos River. This was not the brightest guy around. We always kind of laughed. He was always kind of a joke."

THE PRESIDENCY IN SIGHT, RICK PERRY SUDDENLY FINDS GOD - Like Lincoln! Back in 2002, notes Benjy Sarlin, Rick Perry was asked about his faith and how it guides his approach to politics. "I don't think it does, particularly," Perry replied.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/05/huffpost-hill---just-in-u_n_919876.html

 

[BrianFromWA]

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Grades are overrated. I have a couple of D's on my transcript (in Aerodynamics, no less), but actually learned and retained the material instead of memorize-then-dump, and ended up being published my senior year for my work in the field.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

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The article makes the points I would. He should get the religious right vote and the tea party vote. If independents aren't turned off by his being a religious fellow, and his rhetoric isn't too threatening on the social side, he could poll extremely well.

I am convinced Romney cannot beat Obama. As a Mormon he can't rope in the Tea Party or "religious right" and that convinces me a third party candidate will run, splitting the GOP vote. Perry is much more suited for this type of a run.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

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Grades are overrated. I have a couple of D's on my transcript (in Aerodynamics, no less), but actually learned and retained the material instead of memorize-then-dump, and ended up being published my senior year for my work in the field.

They're overrated unless you want to use them against someone you don't like. That's the real point.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

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I can't believe Perry didn't attend the debate. God must have spoken for him to stay away.

I found this interesting and sounds like it could be an issue during the presidential election:

At an appearance before the debate, Romney was badgered by hecklers at the state fair. In response to chanting about corporations, he said that "corporations are people," a comment Democrats predicted would be a defining moment of his campaign.

Romney, a wealthy businessman who has struggled with an aloof and elitist image as he tries for the GOP presidential nomination a second time, made the remark while outlining options for reducing the federal deficit and overhauling entitlement programs.

Despite tea party outrage that sometimes focuses on banks and auto companies, Romney has said to applause from GOP audiences that the rights of business are being trampled under Obama to the detriment of the struggling economy. But in Thursday's audience, the line encountered resistance.


http://news.yahoo.com/gop-candidates-obama-other-013646096.html

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

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I can't believe Perry didn't attend the debate. God must have spoken for him to stay away.

I found this interesting and sounds like it could be an issue during the presidential election:

At an appearance before the debate, Romney was badgered by hecklers at the state fair. In response to chanting about corporations, he said that "corporations are people," a comment Democrats predicted would be a defining moment of his campaign.

Romney, a wealthy businessman who has struggled with an aloof and elitist image as he tries for the GOP presidential nomination a second time, made the remark while outlining options for reducing the federal deficit and overhauling entitlement programs.

Despite tea party outrage that sometimes focuses on banks and auto companies, Romney has said to applause from GOP audiences that the rights of business are being trampled under Obama to the detriment of the struggling economy. But in Thursday's audience, the line encountered resistance.


http://news.yahoo.com/gop-candidates-obama-other-013646096.html

Were I Perry I wait to join in debates until after I have officially announced my candidacy.

But it is true that Obama has been very punitive with big business and it is one reason they are doing very little hiring. And while I do understand the angst "big business", there has to be some give & take as it is what employs so many people and drives the economy.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

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Were I Perry I wait to join in debates until after I have officially announced my candidacy.

But it is true that Obama has been very punitive with big business and it is one reason they are doing very little hiring. And while I do understand the angst "big business", there has to be some give & take as it is what employs so many people and drives the economy.

I don't know where I stand on that corporation thing, just throwing it out as a potential issue.

With Perry:
Though undeclared as a candidate, he has been lining up donors and establishing contacts in early voting states such as Iowa. He hosted a national day of prayer in Houston last week, a nod to the strength of evangelical conservatives, an influential force in Iowa.

So everyone knows he is going to run, he starts to raise money for the presidency but doesn't officially announce until after the big debate. Hate politics . . .

 

[MARIS61]

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I don't know where I stand on that corporation thing, just throwing it out as a potential issue.

With Perry:
Though undeclared as a candidate, he has been lining up donors and establishing contacts in early voting states such as Iowa. He hosted a national day of prayer in Houston last week, a nod to the strength of evangelical conservatives, an influential force in Iowa.

So everyone knows he is going to run, he starts to raise money for the presidency but doesn't officially announce until after the big debate. Hate politics . . .

It's called cowardice, and it's what Texans are made of. Big on backshooting and bullshitting, but not much for backbone or character.

There should be a law that Texans are not eligible to be President.

 

[maxiep]

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Perry is going to drive Bush haters crazy.

 

[jlprk]

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Texas has the most bush politics of any state. The governors are clowns and the districts are gerrymandered. Totally bush.

There's an entire generation now who aren't familiar with that word, since the media has covered up its definition since 1981.

 

[Denny Crane]

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I don't know where I stand on that corporation thing, just throwing it out as a potential issue.

With Perry:
Though undeclared as a candidate, he has been lining up donors and establishing contacts in early voting states such as Iowa. He hosted a national day of prayer in Houston last week, a nod to the strength of evangelical conservatives, an influential force in Iowa.

So everyone knows he is going to run, he starts to raise money for the presidency but doesn't officially announce until after the big debate. Hate politics . . .

It was an interesting political move. If he'd have declared sooner and taken part in the debate, he'd have gotten a few minutes of air time in between the questions asked to the other candidates. The way he announced on the same day as the debate, his story was as big as the debate itself.

 

[jlprk]

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How tricky. You might call it "leading from behind."

 

[Denny Crane]

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You might call it not having to spend a ton of money for months leading up to this debate. Or keeping one's powder dry.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

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Texas has the most bush politics of any state.

True. There are some really interesting stories about LBJ.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

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rick pArry!

The A is for America! The A is for Iowa!

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[Mediocre Man]

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If Colbert is making fun of him, he must take him seriously.

 

[Eastoff]

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If Colbert is making fun of him, he must take him seriously.

Without a doubt, Perry has followers and I think Colbert is trying to help his viewers brace for Perry.

With that said, didn't Perry at one point say basically "I don't know what to do, we should turn to god for assistance." If that is really how he feels, gtfo of politics! I want my government to do things, if I wanted a religious state I'd move to Iran.

 

[maxiep]

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Without a doubt, Perry has followers and I think Colbert is trying to help his viewers brace for Perry.

With that said, didn't Perry at one point say basically "I don't know what to do, we should turn to god for assistance." If that is really how he feels, gtfo of politics! I want my government to do things, if I wanted a religious state I'd move to Iran.

Lots of people turn to religion for guidance. I'm not one of them, but I don't dismiss those who do. Humility isn't a bad trait, at least that's what I've been told by my inferiors.

 

[MrJayremmie]

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I'd be okay with Perry if he would stay away from social issues.

It would be too hard to vote for him if he were to be a social conservative activist.

Also, I'm fine with him being religious. I just think he needs to keep it out of his politics. And for the love of God, if he embraces Bush's foreign policy then he will lose way too many votes.

If he were to... stay away from social issues (leave it up to the states), stay true to limiting gov't, not spending, and creating jobs, and then in favor of drawing down and getting troops out of the middle east... I think the guy has a great chance.

If he runs to close to what Bush was, he will get raped in any general election. The American people still blame Bush more than Obama for the economy, and the wars are still extremely unpopular.

I will wait and see. I'm very unhappy with Obama, but the Republicans seem like they are going to fuck everything up and give Obama another term.

 

[maxiep]

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I'd be okay with Perry if he would stay away from social issues.

It would be too hard to vote for him if he were to be a social conservative activist.

Also, I'm fine with him being religious. I just think he needs to keep it out of his politics. And for the love of God, if he embraces Bush's foreign policy then he will lose way too many votes.

If he were to... stay away from social issues (leave it up to the states), stay true to limiting gov't, not spending, and creating jobs, and then in favor of drawing down and getting troops out of the middle east... I think the guy has a great chance.

If he runs to close to what Bush was, he will get raped in any general election. The American people still blame Bush more than Obama for the economy, and the wars are still extremely unpopular.

I will wait and see. I'm very unhappy with Obama, but the Republicans seem like they are going to fuck everything up and give Obama another term.

I think the line Perry and other social conservatives are trying to draw is to lean heavily on the 10th Amendment. Meaning they'll say they disagree with a particular policy, but it's not in their purview; it's a state issue. In essence, they'll try to have it both ways.

 

[barfo]

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I think the line Perry and other social conservatives are trying to draw is to lean heavily on the 10th Amendment. Meaning they'll say they disagree with a particular policy, but it's not in their purview; it's a state issue. In essence, they'll try to have it both ways.

Except that he's already blown that strategy by being in favor of a federal anti-gay marriage amendment, and a federal anti-abortion amendment.

barfo

 

[Eastoff]

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Lots of people turn to religion for guidance. I'm not one of them, but I don't dismiss those who do. Humility isn't a bad trait, at least that's what I've been told by my inferiors.

Perhaps some people think god gives them guidance, but my understanding on his statement was "I think we have to let god solve our problems."

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