Lord help us - The Perry Super Thread!

ABM · Sep 1, 2011

Re: Who Is Rick Perry?

julius said:
wasn't a remark about you or your personality. I thought you were joking about it being the best read in the history of mankind, so I said it must be crap...ie., the best read in history is crap...ha ha.

Oh.

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

Re: Perry.......The Enigma

Denny Crane said:
Like him or not, Texas is a good contrast to what's been going on everywhere else. Jobs are created there at a higher rate than anywhere else. They have no income tax. They're allowed to exploit the natural resources in their state. They're absorbing a lot of immigrants (to the state) and they keep on doing well.

They have a balanced budget. It's true they increased spending on all sorts of things when times were good, but when the times aren't so good, they cut spending to a level they can afford.

When times were good, they increased the size of government. They increased education spending 5x faster than the student population was growing over the past 10 years. They had one non-teacher per district for every actual teacher in their school districts. Only $.48 out of every $1 was being spent on actual instruction. There' that wonderful Keynesian govt. spending multiplier at work! So they cut education spending and the lefties go "boo hoo."

When govt. is spending $.98 out of every dollar on instruction and they have to cut education spending, then let's talk about whether there should be taxes or increases to avoid it.

And barfo, it seems to me the difference in what we want are that:

You seem to like 10% unemployment, 990 weeks of unemployment benefits, 40% of the economy spent on govt. (even though $.48 is the value you get from it), $46,000 of government debt per man/woman/child, prolonged periods of poor GDP growth, etc. It all leads to massive dependency on govt., which you seem to like and want. No thanks.

My version is 10% unemployment for a couple of years, we all suffer the belly ache from overeating when times were good, but then we have a period of 20 years where we create 40M jobs with the wealth and prosperity that goes along with a nation enjoying success. There is a need for government, but as limited as possible and as completely out of the way of the great people of this nation as imaginable.

I think we should take one more lesson from Texas. Their legislature meets for less than 6 months, and that's every 2 years.

This is all that matters too, he has gotten it done. Lol, look at these ugly trolls in congress trying to attack Perry's job creation. I find it amusing.

His conservative social views mean nothing to me. I'll take the cash and ask for a Libertarian President later, if ever.

maxiep said:
Check again: http://www.politicalmathblog.com/?p=1590

Cool stuff.

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

Perry's social policies are too radical to get him elected. I think Romney gives them the best chance.

Its too soon after the Bush disaster to consider a Texas governor for president, IMO.

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

If you followed the campaign at all, you would know Bush and Perry are on bad terms. His friends hate Perry too.

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

If you followed the campaign at all, you would know Bush and Perry are on bad terms. His friends hate Perry too.

And? It doesn't matter what terms they are on.

There are A LOT of similarities. In my opinion, too many to get him elected.

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

MrJayremmie said:
And? It doesn't matter what terms they are on.

There are A LOT of similarities. In my opinion, too many to get him elected.

If you can't follow the campaign, why should your opinion matter?

BrianFromWA · Sep 2, 2011

Honestly? Bc he gets a vote.

Geniuses and idiots get the same one vote. Religious nut jobs and atheist nut jobs, ditto. Democrats and republicans? One each (except in Chicago).

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

BrianFromWA said:
Honestly? Bc he gets a vote.

Geniuses and idiots get the same one vote. Religious nut jobs and atheist nut jobs, ditto. Democrats and republicans? One each (except in Chicago).

Based on the polling I've seen, Perry will have a close call. But as far as Mrsomething's opinion being equal, that's not true. He is not going to convince America with that argument.

Lefties will have a tough time proving that Perry = Bush, economically speaking. However if Perry keeps talking about evolution, that type of stuff is going to screw him.

julius · Sep 2, 2011

BrianFromWA said:
Honestly? Bc he gets a vote.

Geniuses and idiots get the same one vote. Religious nut jobs and atheist nut jobs, ditto. Democrats and republicans? One each (except in Chicago).

when has the last "atheist nut job" had any ANY clout in any election that mattered?

I don't care if Illinois gets 2 votes per person, thats not why Kennedy won in 60, and it's not why Obama won in 08

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

If you can't follow the campaign, why should your opinion matter as much?

What are you talking about? You make no sense. How old are you dude?

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

Lefties will have a tough time proving that Perry = Bush, economically speaking. However if Perry keeps talking about evolution, that type of stuff is going to screw him.

Perry talking at all screws him.

He should talk about Texas doing well in comparison to the left of the country and try to avoid speaking outside of that.

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

But as far as Mrsomething's opinion being equal, that's not true. He is not going to convince America with that argument.

My opinion is not equal because I can't convince America with that argument? WHAT?

maxiep · Sep 2, 2011

There are a number of debates between now and mid-October. It's then that Perry will prove whether or not he belongs. When there's a contested primary in either party, it's the candidates that generate more heat than light that get the attention.

MrJayremmie · Sep 2, 2011

There are a number of debates between now and mid-October. It's then that Perry will prove whether or not he belongs.

I didn't a lot of this thread, what are your thoughts of him? And thoughts of his electability?

I think sound bites like the "Ask him" one are going to cost him with independents.

maxiep · Sep 2, 2011

MrJayremmie said:
I didn't a lot of this thread, what are your thoughts of him? And thoughts of his electability?

I think sound bites like the "Ask him" one are going to cost him with independents.

I think his Texas swagger will hurt him with independents, because it will remind them of President Bush. However, when it comes to spending, he's no George W. Bush. However, he'll have to distinguish himself from President Bush in the debates and in any interviews.

He's a little too socially conservative for me, but fiscally he's pretty good. I have no idea about his foreign policy, so I'll have to wait and see.

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

MrJayremmie said:
My opinion is not equal because I can't convince America with that argument? WHAT?

"Uuhuhuh America huhuh? "

Dude you're intentionally being dumb or something. Your weakass argument doesn't work, your opinion has lower value than mine. America = your colleagues or whatever. I assume you sometimes discuss these matters in public.

Yes in terms of convincing your peers that Perry = Bush, your opinion is weak. So you don't matter.

huevonkiller · Sep 2, 2011

MrJayremmie said:
Perry talking at all screws him.

He should talk about Texas doing well in comparison to the left of the country and try to avoid speaking outside of that.

You're not even aware of what's going on, why should you give him advice? Lol.

MrJayremmie · Sep 3, 2011

You're not even aware of what's going on, why should you give him advice? Lol.

Typing on a message board =/= giving advice.

your opinion has lower value than mine.

Ahhh... now I get what you were trying to say. Well played sire, well played.

santeesioux · Sep 3, 2011

I think you're being trolled, bro.

Denny Crane · Sep 3, 2011

Vote for this guy!

[video=youtube;cfu1_Scgyow]

MrJayremmie · Sep 3, 2011

Vote for this guy!

Isn't he you third choice after Paul and then Johnson (I think it was him, the NM governor)?

MrJayremmie · Sep 3, 2011

I think you're being trolled, bro.

If this is directed to me, then I agree! If its to him, than I disagree!

huevonkiller · Sep 5, 2011

Denny Crane said:
Vote for this guy!

[video=youtube;cfu1_Scgyow]

The Sunlight thing wasn't a big deal and it sounds catchy. But yeah other than that, lol.

barfo · Sep 6, 2011

Re: Others attacking Perry for his "scientific" views...

Ha ha - the knives come out!

"After Reagan, Senator Al Gore ran for president, pledging to raise taxes and increase spending, pushing his liberal values," the announcer continues, as the background music turns ominous. "And Al Gore found a cheerleader in Texas named Rick Perry. Rick Perry helped lead Al Gore's campaign to undo the Reagan revolution, fighting to elect Al Gore President of the United States."

The Perry campaign responded to the spot by pointing to a letter Paul wrote in 1987 resigning from the Republican Party. In it, Paul wrote: "There is no credibility left for the Republican Party as a force to reduce the size of government. That is the message of the Reagan years."

"I want to totally disassociate myself from the policies that have given us unprecedented deficits, massive monetary inflation, indiscriminate military spending, an irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy, zooming foreign aid, the exaltation of international banking, and the attack on our personal liberties and privacy," Paul wrote.

barfo

Denny Crane · Sep 6, 2011