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Harrison Wind
Harrison Wind @HarrisonWind
about 5 minutes ago
Western Conference win totals from @LVSuperBook just dropped - Warriors 62.5 Rockets 54.5 Thunder 50.5 Lakers 48.5 Jazz 48.5 Nuggets 47.5 Pelicans 45.5 Timberwolves 44.5 Spurs 43.5 Trail Blazers 41.5 Clippers 35.5 Grizzlies 34.5 Mavericks 34.5 Suns 28.5 Kings 25.5

The top rated sports book in the world projects Blazers to be 10th in West this season. Glad Neil stood pat and is letting the cake bake.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Harrison Wind
Harrison Wind @HarrisonWind
about 5 minutes ago
Western Conference win totals from @LVSuperBook just dropped - Warriors 62.5 Rockets 54.5 Thunder 50.5 Lakers 48.5 Jazz 48.5 Nuggets 47.5 Pelicans 45.5 Timberwolves 44.5 Spurs 43.5 Trail Blazers 41.5 Clippers 35.5 Grizzlies 34.5 Mavericks 34.5 Suns 28.5 Kings 25.5

The top rated sports book in the world projects Blazers to be 10th in West this season. Glad Neil stood pat and is letting the cake bake.
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Sportsbooks are not predicting order of finish, they set lines to induce betting.
 
Gronk Brady said:
Harrison Wind
Harrison Wind @HarrisonWind
about 5 minutes ago
Western Conference win totals from @LVSuperBook just dropped - Warriors 62.5 Rockets 54.5 Thunder 50.5 Lakers 48.5 Jazz 48.5 Nuggets 47.5 Pelicans 45.5 Timberwolves 44.5 Spurs 43.5 Trail Blazers 41.5 Clippers 35.5 Grizzlies 34.5 Mavericks 34.5 Suns 28.5 Kings 25.5

The top rated sports book in the world projects Blazers to be 10th in West this season. Glad Neil stood pat and is letting the cake bake.
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waiting for the frosting!
 
Gronk Brady said:
Harrison Wind
Harrison Wind @HarrisonWind
about 5 minutes ago
Western Conference win totals from @LVSuperBook just dropped - Warriors 62.5 Rockets 54.5 Thunder 50.5 Lakers 48.5 Jazz 48.5 Nuggets 47.5 Pelicans 45.5 Timberwolves 44.5 Spurs 43.5 Trail Blazers 41.5 Clippers 35.5 Grizzlies 34.5 Mavericks 34.5 Suns 28.5 Kings 25.5

The top rated sports book in the world projects Blazers to be 10th in West this season. Glad Neil stood pat and is letting the cake bake.
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I actually find this interesting, these are people who literally have money on the line. So they are aiming to set a line to get people to bet on both sides.
 
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
 
tykendo said:
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
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So I’m actually surprised at the Spurs predictions Kawhi basically missed the season and they’re adding DeRozan to that squad. The only real knock is do they have any 3 point shooting at all...?
I think the teams that are being considerably over valued are OKC and the Nuggets.
 
tykendo said:
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
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You like our chances to do what?
 
Sports books are in the business, literally, of predicting accurately. If they don't, they go out of business. This year, 41.5 sounds about right.

The books underbid the Blazers a few years ago, but the Blazers ain't sneaking up on anyone this year, there's no Nurk fever to jump from, no free agent to build on, there's just the same 'ol, same 'ol.

So 41.5 sounds right, unfortunately, especially compared to the logical numbers for the others teams mentioned..
 
Stevenson said:
Sports books are in the business, literally, of predicting accurately. If they don't, they go out of business. This year, 41.5 sounds about right.

The books underbid the Blazers a few years ago, but the Blazers ain't sneaking up on anyone this year, there's no Nurk fever to jump from, no free agent to build on, there's just the same 'ol, same 'ol.

So 41.5 sounds right, unfortunately, especially compared to the logical numbers for the others teams mentioned..
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Fair enough, but the same old, same old got 49 wins. We can excuse away injuries and whatever say they were lucky. No matter how you spin they got 49 wins. Did they get 7.5 games worse? I think they desperately need a trade to balance the roster.

These numbers are interesting and who knows maybe they have a really bad year, but I think so far as Dame has gotten better and matured towards his prime he has carried the team to better records every year.

They’re banking on internal growth and that has worked for teams before.
 
tykendo said:
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
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I don’t think it’s lazy analysis at all. Vegas doesn’t look at this from a standpoint of analysis of which teams are actually the best; they look at it from the viewpoint of what most betters think the order of finish will be. That factors in a whole lot of things that don’t relate to how good teams actually are. It includes fans’ tendencies to overvalue their own teams and make bets that don’t necessarily make sense based upon the strength of the team’s rosters. A whole bunch of Laker fans may have undue expectations for the piss and gold.
 
Stevenson said:
Sports books are in the business, literally, of predicting accurately. If they don't, they go out of business. This year, 41.5 sounds about right.
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Not quite. They're in the business of predicting accurately, yes, but what they need to predict is not how well teams will play, but how the public thinks teams will play. All that matters to them is that the bets on both sides of any line come out about even.

Consider last year. If they had set the over/under for the Blazers at 49.5, they would have been within a half game, but they'd have lost their shirts on the 85-90% of the bets that would have been placed on the under.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
If so many of you think the Blazers are unfairly underrated then put your cash on the line, should be easy money right?
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I made $500 (the max amount I could bet on a particular website back then) 3 years in a row from 2006-2008. Easiest money I've ever made and there was no sweat at all since they cleared the totals easy. Since then with the way injuries played out with Roy and Oden I don't like to chance my money on the team staying healthy (well mainly Dame, CJ, and Nurk this year).

The Spurs at 43.5 might tempt me to lay down a wager.
 
If the Blazers prove to be the 10th place west team this franchise needs to evaluate the long term strategy. Dame and CJ are in the middle of their prime right now.

I'd say blow it up, trade Dame and CJ, then rebuild. Dame and CJ would bring back great young assets.

I'd rather this team finds a way to improve and contend in the next 3 years. But if we are so far away to be 10th right now that isn't realistic.

We will have to see how the first half of the season plays out!
 
I agree, however, I think they are going to once again be a surprise team and even make it to the second round, and who know?
I actually like the make up of this team, it's a good mix, will they win the Championship, hell no, but 29 other teams won't either.
Will we strengthen our weakness's with a trade before season starts? Im saying its pretty obvious if a solid deal presents itself we pull the trigger.
 
First thing it really going come down to injuries for any teams. We been pretty healthy the last 2 years. Second you know what your going get with Dame and CJ. The big question will be the improvement of Nurk Zach Harkless. What can Curry and Nik gives us off the bench.
 
tykendo said:
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
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To be fair, the Spurs were w/o Kawhi last year so this year they add DeRozen to a roster that already played without Kawhi. DeRozan isn't better than KL but he is better than no KL.
 
tykendo said:
It comes down to lazy analysis, IMO. The Blazers young talent ,according to these so called experts, has not developed any further over the summer, but other teams have. The Spurs w/o Kawhi are going to be better? I doubt it. It's all good. Doubt Dame if you will. I like this Blazer team's chances .
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Yea can't believe they completely missed this massive pickup:

 
HailBlazers said:
Yea can't believe they completely missed this massive pickup:

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That is a shining example of why an owner should let his GM do his job. Actually if I remember correctly that season the Kings had a contest that season where five fans were chosen based on videos they submitted as a crowd sourcing idea to help them make the 8th pick that year. They even got to be in the room on draft day. I think it came down to Elfrid Payton or Nik Stauskas. They were fascinating videos until the end where it didn't seem to matter because Vivek wanted Stauskas anyway. I might have to go watch that again.
 
HailBlazers said:
Yea can't believe they completely missed this massive pickup:

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hoopsjock said:
That is a shining example of why an owner should let his GM do his job. Actually if I remember correctly that season the Kings had a contest that season where five fans were chosen based on videos they submitted as a crowd sourcing idea to help them make the 8th pick that year. They even got to be in the room on draft day. I think it came down to Elfrid Payton or Nik Stauskas. They were fascinating videos until the end where it didn't seem to matter because Vivek wanted Stauskas anyway. I might have to go watch that again.
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I couldn't find the full crowd sourcing videos of the five guys breaking down their methods but there is a little bit of it in this video:



The 5 guys had Noah Vonleh rated as their 3rd best prospect behind Wiggins and Parker, ha ha.
 
hoopsjock said:
I couldn't find the full crowd sourcing videos of the five guys breaking down their methods but there is a little bit of it in this video:



The 5 guys had Noah Vonleh rated as their 3rd best prospect behind Wiggins and Parker, ha ha.
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Looking back, it's kind of amazing how sucky that 2014 draft really was. I mean, yeah, Stauskas at 8 was terrible, but it's not like there were a whole lot of great choices. I guess they would have been a bit better off with Saric or Lavine.

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PtldPlatypus said:
Looking back, it's kind of amazing how sucky that 2014 draft really was. I mean, yeah, Stauskas at 8 was terrible, but it's not like there were a whole lot of great choices. I guess they would have been a bit better off with Saric or Lavine.

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Yeah, I agree that it was a crappy draft. In the video I posted they got a call from the 76ers when their pick came up and it sounds like they were offered #10 and two 2nd rounders (they had picks 32, 39, 47, and 52). In hindsight they definitely should've taken that offer. I wonder who Philly would've taken at 8? If they took Stauskas or Vonleh how much different would "The Process" be without Saric on the team and with their draft pick actually playing?
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Looking back, it's kind of amazing how sucky that 2014 draft really was. I mean, yeah, Stauskas at 8 was terrible, but it's not like there were a whole lot of great choices. I guess they would have been a bit better off with Saric or Lavine.

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It's also kind of funny that they ended up trading Stauskas to Philly anyway along with their 2019 unprotected 1st just to dump other salary. Then this summer they tried to sign Lavine.
 
We will go 82-0 and finish 10th in the Northwest Division.

barfo
 
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