Mad Max- Who Will Be His Suitor???

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Mattingly23NY

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Personally, I'm getting tired of this charade of parading Max around like he's the reincarnate of Jesus Ball throwing Christ.....

Two words: Scott Bor-ASS.....

a potential rundown of suitors.....

http://m.mlb.com/news/article/105094580/richard-justice-max-scherzer-would-be-money-for-contenders

If he winds up in the NL West with SF or L.A., your probably looking at next years W.S. Champ or NLCS Champion.....

IMO, the Yanx need to make a move for him. CC cannot be counted on this year, he couldn't cut butter last year, so why this one? Nova, I think has maybe seen his last glory years. Pineda, has still not pitched a full season since he was in Seattle, why now?

Tanaka IMO, will return to form, with his strain (partial tear) healed, stronger than ever. Let's just hope, he doesn't tear the areas around the healed elbow, albeit tendons or ligaments....
 
...loling at Richard Justice...he named 11 teams without even mentioning Detroit...thanx for the scoop, Rich !
 
Boras must have paid him to exclude Detroit, lol!
 
...^^^ wouldn't surprise me. It's amazing how much BS is thrown around by the media this time of year. I would also think think that most of those teams are laughing at Justice too.
 
Detroit has emphatically said they will not resign him... So...
 
This reeks of prince fielder all over again, no inyrest at all and then bam, a record deal to the tigers. I think boras manipulates their gullible owner
 
Bor-ASS is the black hole of MLB....nothing good comes out of it...!
 
He goes above the gm to the owners...it's basically stealing at that point, they for the most part are not baseball men
 
...teams emphatically saying they're not interested in a player?...lol...it's a game of "liar's poker".

...the Yanx have said essentially the same thing about Scherzer...don't believe anything until it actually happens.
 
Bor-ass waiting for that 8+ year offer with a $250M price tag. Honestly I'm hoping no team bites.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...teams emphatically saying they're not interested in a player?...lol...it's a game of "liar's poker".

...the Yanx have said essentially the same thing about Scherzer...don't believe anything until it actually happens.
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,,,^^^

good point(s), and Liars Poker, I like that catchy phrase, and damned it fits well too.....Extra Dark Ray Bans anyone?
 
Honestly I don't see anyone going over 7 yrs @ $180M. OR, the idiot Bor-ass could have another Drew / Morales situation, and we all know how that turned out.
 
Rick2583 said:
Honestly I don't see anyone going over 7 yrs @ $180M. OR, the idiot Bor-ass could have another Drew / Morales situation, and we all know how that turned out.
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Wishful thinking? Drew/Morales are Cy Young winners and 200+ IP guys. Max gets the deal he wants, Boras does big deals late. Better to spend big money in a new calendar year.
 
totus44 said:
Wishful thinking? Drew/Morales are Cy Young winners and 200+ IP guys. Max gets the deal he wants, Boras does big deals late. Better to spend big money in a new calendar year.
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also a good point. Much like a 6 month Auction. The deeper into an Auction of any sort, 1 of 2 things either happen, depending on the commodity and demand/supply. The price either drops drastically, (which will NOT happen); or the Price goes up and up, which WILL happen....

Not alot of quality SP's to choose from. A lot of Suitors creating a false sense of over inflation of Max's true value.
A lack of supply; with plenty in Demand.

That's what Bor-ASS does. Keep's more players these days (or so the Drew/Morales debacle looked), on the hook dangling over a jumping Great White. The interests tho' never wanes for those serious contenders, thus the price continues to go up.....!

I never was much a fan of collusion. At some point I'd like to see Owners in collusion- with these outlandish prices for commodities. If it were high pay checks for players, that's one thing. These are not players anymore, they are pure commodities....Say goodbye to the MLBPA, and Hello to the MLBCE (CE: Commodities Exchange)...
 
...Scherzer will not get the money he and Boras are asking for. Will he get a bigger deal than Detroit offered last year?...yes, but he's not getting Kershaw money.
 
yankeesince59 said:
...Scherzer will not get the money he and Boras are asking for. Will he get a bigger deal than Detroit offered last year?...yes, but he's not getting Kershaw money.
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I agree. He turned down 6 @ $144M from Detroit. I think my figure is closer to what he'll end up with, 7 @ $180M. I'll really be surprised if anyone gives him him much more then that. (money wise).
 
Maybe (hopefully), Boras and Max are dealing with a coincidental,collusion-like market.
Or it could be a case of plain old fiscal sanity from Mlb owners.
 
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blgridesagain said:
Maybe (hopefully), Boras and Max are dealing with a [I]coincidental,collusion-like[/I] market.
Or it could be a case of plain old fiscal sanity from Mlb owners.
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I'm not only hoping for this but I hope it happens more often. These salaries are getting way out of hand.
 
You guys do realize that there are 250,000 to 400,000 individuals earning more that $1M/yr in the US (numbers from 2007-2011).

Baseball players are part of the 1%. Most of those other people do have a 20-50 year earning span, in the MLB its 5.6 years.
Ballplayers and agents understand this fiscal reality and negotiate accordingly.

Also in this group you can include top doctors and attorneys, most B movie and up Hollywood stars/agents/execs, other sports stars, TV &Radio personalities, ceos and execs of fortune 500 companies, elite builders/contractors, investors and speculators.....and on and on.

Look, with baseball, you either have 30 uber wealthy ownership groups....or the current distributive wealth system. In the case of the MLBPA, I think they made a successful argument that owners didn't build baseball alone...its the player/performers that made significant contributions. Would you prefer that team remain private corporate entities and have profit sharing and no reported salaries?
 
If the owners can afford it then whatevz, I'd rather the players get the money
 
3RA1N1AC said:
If the owners can afford it then whatevz, I'd rather the players get the money
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Exactly. There are debt controls on ownership groups...ask the Wilpons, lol! Interesting, in corporate america, companies that pay employees ( that includes mgmt) more, tend to yield better ROI over the long term. Apple, Google, etc. Are top 10 in employee compensation.

What does that say? Well short term profit taking yields cash, makes EBITDA look better. However its what you do with that cash over the long term, and investing in a stable/motivated/creative work force are what investors look for (directly and indirectly).
 
totus44 said:
You guys do realize that there are 250,000 to 400,000 individuals earning more that $1M/yr in the US (numbers from 2007-2011).

Baseball players are part of the 1%. Most of those other people do have a 20-50 year earning span, in the MLB its 5.6 years.
Ballplayers and agents understand this fiscal reality and negotiate accordingly.

Also in this group you can include top doctors and attorneys, most B movie and up Hollywood stars/agents/execs, other sports stars, TV &Radio personalities, ceos and execs of fortune 500 companies, elite builders/contractors, investors and speculators.....and on and on.

Look, with baseball, you either have 30 uber wealthy ownership groups....or the current distributive wealth system. In the case of the MLBPA, I think they made a successful argument that owners didn't build baseball alone...its the player/performers that made significant contributions. Would you prefer that team remain private corporate entities and have profit sharing and no reported salaries?
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Which is why the salaries are disgustingly obscene.
These players aren't going to be applying for public assistance based on any 3 yr avg salary earning period.

I would prefer to see more individual mlb owners dump these glorified bandits sooner than later and promote and/or give new (younger farm hands) prospects a chance.

If this is truly a free market, then why were the "owners" sued for collusion in the past?

I am certainly an advocate of the free market system - and also for the rights of those who risk losing everything in a business venture.
 
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...never heard of a player holding a gun to an owner's head.
 
with the comparative pittance players get paid through their first few years, its only fair for them to get a little on the back end
 
3RA1N1AC said:
If the owners can afford it then whatevz, I'd rather the players get the money
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Sorry my friend but not WHATEVER because the fans are the one's that get fucked in the end with the high ticket prices. So it does matter.
 
im not sure i agree with you rick, ticket prices are more of a supply and demand thing
 
3RA1N1AC said:
im not sure i agree with you rick, ticket prices are more of a supply and demand thing
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When your team payroll goes from $100M to $200M you've got to make up for it somewhere. Otherwise box seats would cost $100.00 instead of $1000.00. JMO.
 
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