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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Aug 11 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm disappointed by the lack of hype for Madden.
Who is getting it tomorrow?</div>
Me.
Who is getting it tomorrow?</div>
Me.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Aug 11 2008, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm disappointed by the lack of hype for Madden.
Who is getting it tomorrow?</div>
I would get it tonight at midnight if I could but theres no where in the area and I don't want to risk waiting around somewhere and not end up getting the game because I didn't preorder.
Who is getting it tomorrow?</div>
I would get it tonight at midnight if I could but theres no where in the area and I don't want to risk waiting around somewhere and not end up getting the game because I didn't preorder.
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I went to Walmart to try and pick up madden cuz they have advertised being able to pick it up and even checked online to see if they were open 24 hours which it said, but when I went to the store at about 12:15, the store had closed at 12.
So F*** Walmart!
So F*** Walmart!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Aug 11 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fuckin XBOX is broken, but im still getting it tomorrow</div>
i was gunna go @ midnight but i got the 3 rings like 2 days ago
i was gunna go @ midnight but i got the 3 rings like 2 days ago
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (thedude9990 @ Aug 12 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Aug 11 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Fuckin XBOX is broken, but im still getting it tomorrow</div>
i was gunna go @ midnight but i got the 3 rings like 2 days ago
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werd, i sent mine away a week ago, thank god it happened in summer, at least i got other stuff i can do
i was gunna go @ midnight but i got the 3 rings like 2 days ago
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werd, i sent mine away a week ago, thank god it happened in summer, at least i got other stuff i can do
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yea, mines been sitting there for a while, i rented ncaa when it came out but i only played a few times but other than that i havent used it for a while so i dont understand how i got the lights since i didnt give it a chance to over heat.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hudge @ Aug 12 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't come out till 15th in England
Where's Brett at?
Free Agent as originally stated he would be, Packers or Jets?
Also GMJ how do you update rosters on 2K5? Is it the long manual way or is there a quick way?</div>
Only the manual way
That's why I stuck with just updating the Cowboys. Is there anyone who loves 2k5 and picked up Madden? If so, what do you think of it?
Where's Brett at?
Free Agent as originally stated he would be, Packers or Jets?
Also GMJ how do you update rosters on 2K5? Is it the long manual way or is there a quick way?</div>
Only the manual way
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So far, I'm loving this game...to an extent. I think I tested way too high on my Madden IQ though. I'm at All Madden in passing and rushing offense, so offense is freaking hard. I'm really hoping this game adjusts kindly to me. The defense though, seems spot on for the most part. Heh, I tested All Pro in rush and Pro in pass defense...
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Brett Favre is not in the game on the packers, jets or free agents. He is in the legends roster with all the other hall of famers.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Aug 12 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hudge @ Aug 12 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Don't come out till 15th in England
Where's Brett at?
Free Agent as originally stated he would be, Packers or Jets?
Also GMJ how do you update rosters on 2K5? Is it the long manual way or is there a quick way?</div>
Only the manual way
That's why I stuck with just updating the Cowboys. Is there anyone who loves 2k5 and picked up Madden? If so, what do you think of it?
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I was obsessed with 2k5 way back in the day. Actually the first thing I thought when I got comfortable with the controls is that the passing is extremely similar to 2k5. They got rid of the QB vision cone thing so now you just press a button for the corresponding receiver and with the left stick you can control whether you throw it deep, short, low, high, ahead, behind, etc. TBH though its hard to remember a lot about 2k5, I guess I could pop it in and play a little bit but I'm way too lazy lol. I actually don't like how they got rid of the QB vision cone though, I was a fan of it. It took me a long time to ween myself back into 2k5 style passing controls. Kind of sucks that just as they made the running game realistic and anti-cheeser they make the passing game a lot simpler. I liked being able to stare down safeties (or opposing players whne I'm playing someone else) and then locking onto a receiver and throwing the ball. Good for me because I was good at it, it was very realistic, and now noobs will be able to just press a button and throw a pinpoint pass (since they all play with Brady/Manning/Rivers, etc.)
I like the running game in the new madden a lot though. It was way too easy to run the ball in past Maddens (and other games). In 09 most of your runs are 2-3 yarders like it should be IMO with the occasional 8-10+ yarder and every once in a while you break off a big run. You won't see LT bouncing off like 9 tackles and outrunning your fastest player to the end zone 4 or 5 times a game anymore (thank god). Its a lot more challenging to run the ball now and if you're a POS newb you won't be as dominant handing the ball to LT/LJ/Westbrook/whoever and just juking the shit out of every play. Its basically impossible to have any success against the CPU if you run the ball all the time with a single player. Now more than ever its important to balance your passes vs. rushes to keep the defense honest and open, I literally never used an O-Line audible but now if I'm running a play to either side I shift the line to block accordingly. In 09 its harder to run the ball and easier to stop the run on defense (almost too easy? I dunno because 60% of the time I "run commit" where you move all the D-Lineman inside to close the inside gaps).
My only real gripe so far is pass defense. It drives me nuts but it seems like theres a few plays every game where for no good reason my secondary players let receivers get 10-15 feet behind them and it leads to easy 80 yard touchdowns. This is the only main gripe as far as defense goes. I've actually read some places that people complain that its too hard to get interceptions but IMO the interceptions have been fine (worth mentioning I'm playing with the Raiders and everyone in their starting secondary are rated between 87-97). They don't drop nearly as many easy interceptions in this game and generally play a more realistic type of defense which also has to do with the improved trajectory of the passes. Again, if you're used to playing safety and in past games you could easily get 4 or 5 picks in a game then maybe you'll be disappointed, I personally like it a lot more but I'm always a DE on defense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Aug 12 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So far, I'm loving this game...to an extent. I think I tested way too high on my Madden IQ though. I'm at All Madden in passing and rushing offense, so offense is freaking hard. I'm really hoping this game adjusts kindly to me. The defense though, seems spot on for the most part. Heh, I tested All Pro in rush and Pro in pass defense...</div>
Yeah the IQ thing sucks ass. My pass defense was in the rookie area while my rush defense was one notch below the max you could get. This is accurate because I always play as a D-Lineman, pretty much have my whole life and I do really, really suck ass at pass coverage but it made for a very weird style of play. Can't remember what my offense rankings were but it was impossible to run the damn ball, I might have more success now that I understand the running game more though. I might try it again tomorrow but for now I have no complaints with regular all-pro.
Where's Brett at?
Free Agent as originally stated he would be, Packers or Jets?
Also GMJ how do you update rosters on 2K5? Is it the long manual way or is there a quick way?</div>
Only the manual way
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I was obsessed with 2k5 way back in the day. Actually the first thing I thought when I got comfortable with the controls is that the passing is extremely similar to 2k5. They got rid of the QB vision cone thing so now you just press a button for the corresponding receiver and with the left stick you can control whether you throw it deep, short, low, high, ahead, behind, etc. TBH though its hard to remember a lot about 2k5, I guess I could pop it in and play a little bit but I'm way too lazy lol. I actually don't like how they got rid of the QB vision cone though, I was a fan of it. It took me a long time to ween myself back into 2k5 style passing controls. Kind of sucks that just as they made the running game realistic and anti-cheeser they make the passing game a lot simpler. I liked being able to stare down safeties (or opposing players whne I'm playing someone else) and then locking onto a receiver and throwing the ball. Good for me because I was good at it, it was very realistic, and now noobs will be able to just press a button and throw a pinpoint pass (since they all play with Brady/Manning/Rivers, etc.)
I like the running game in the new madden a lot though. It was way too easy to run the ball in past Maddens (and other games). In 09 most of your runs are 2-3 yarders like it should be IMO with the occasional 8-10+ yarder and every once in a while you break off a big run. You won't see LT bouncing off like 9 tackles and outrunning your fastest player to the end zone 4 or 5 times a game anymore (thank god). Its a lot more challenging to run the ball now and if you're a POS newb you won't be as dominant handing the ball to LT/LJ/Westbrook/whoever and just juking the shit out of every play. Its basically impossible to have any success against the CPU if you run the ball all the time with a single player. Now more than ever its important to balance your passes vs. rushes to keep the defense honest and open, I literally never used an O-Line audible but now if I'm running a play to either side I shift the line to block accordingly. In 09 its harder to run the ball and easier to stop the run on defense (almost too easy? I dunno because 60% of the time I "run commit" where you move all the D-Lineman inside to close the inside gaps).
My only real gripe so far is pass defense. It drives me nuts but it seems like theres a few plays every game where for no good reason my secondary players let receivers get 10-15 feet behind them and it leads to easy 80 yard touchdowns. This is the only main gripe as far as defense goes. I've actually read some places that people complain that its too hard to get interceptions but IMO the interceptions have been fine (worth mentioning I'm playing with the Raiders and everyone in their starting secondary are rated between 87-97). They don't drop nearly as many easy interceptions in this game and generally play a more realistic type of defense which also has to do with the improved trajectory of the passes. Again, if you're used to playing safety and in past games you could easily get 4 or 5 picks in a game then maybe you'll be disappointed, I personally like it a lot more but I'm always a DE on defense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Moo2K4 @ Aug 12 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So far, I'm loving this game...to an extent. I think I tested way too high on my Madden IQ though. I'm at All Madden in passing and rushing offense, so offense is freaking hard. I'm really hoping this game adjusts kindly to me. The defense though, seems spot on for the most part. Heh, I tested All Pro in rush and Pro in pass defense...</div>
Yeah the IQ thing sucks ass. My pass defense was in the rookie area while my rush defense was one notch below the max you could get. This is accurate because I always play as a D-Lineman, pretty much have my whole life and I do really, really suck ass at pass coverage but it made for a very weird style of play. Can't remember what my offense rankings were but it was impossible to run the damn ball, I might have more success now that I understand the running game more though. I might try it again tomorrow but for now I have no complaints with regular all-pro.
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Thanks for the review, BJM! My biggest gripe with Madden (and Live, EA sports games in general) is that the players are too fluid. I like the 2k idea where movement is momentum based. It feels more natural (see also: NBA 2k series)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy @ Aug 12 2008, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It online lagging for anyone else?</div>
Yeah, I got booted from the EA Server earlier
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After being able to play a couple games, I can say this is probably the best football game I've played to date. The running game is tough, which is a nice change of pace from NCAA, which I could dominate in because defenders took such horrible angles. Also, the option in that game was very overpowered, so I might have to find that out in this game.
Passing is a lot tougher as well. Since I tested All Madden for it, I'm rarely ever able to find WR deep at the moment. Which, quite honestly, I don't have a problem with that. In past Maddens, on All Pro difficulty, it was WAY too easy to throw the deep ball, and that was an issue of mine in NCAA. If you had a fast WR, you could throw the deep ball all day and never screw it up. Not the case in this game. There always seems to be a safety over the top there to deflect my pass or pick it off.
The other big issue I had in NCAA was addressed in this as well: Defense. I may be retarded on defense or something, I don't know, but I found defense in NCAA next to impossible. I couldn't stop anyone, no matter what I tried. You also couldn't get pressure on a QB in that game to save your life unless you blitzed at least 7 people it seemed. Not the case in Madden. I can sit back in a coverage, only blitz 4, and still get pressure on the QB, which is nice.
Overall, I'm loving this game. It's a very fluid playing game and it seems to be realistic in most facets. I might be in the minority here as well, but I really like the concept of the Madden IQ. Since I'm weak on pass defense, I'm glad that it's there to adjust for me. It also handicaps me to an extent on offense since I tested so high (All Madden on both), but I'm cool with that. In past games I could rack up points like no ones business on All Pro, and I had the same issue in NCAA - I averaged over 70ppg for AN ENTIRE SEASON on the 2nd hardest difficulty. So, in all, this seems to be a balanced game at the moment, so we'll see what happens with more plays.
Passing is a lot tougher as well. Since I tested All Madden for it, I'm rarely ever able to find WR deep at the moment. Which, quite honestly, I don't have a problem with that. In past Maddens, on All Pro difficulty, it was WAY too easy to throw the deep ball, and that was an issue of mine in NCAA. If you had a fast WR, you could throw the deep ball all day and never screw it up. Not the case in this game. There always seems to be a safety over the top there to deflect my pass or pick it off.
The other big issue I had in NCAA was addressed in this as well: Defense. I may be retarded on defense or something, I don't know, but I found defense in NCAA next to impossible. I couldn't stop anyone, no matter what I tried. You also couldn't get pressure on a QB in that game to save your life unless you blitzed at least 7 people it seemed. Not the case in Madden. I can sit back in a coverage, only blitz 4, and still get pressure on the QB, which is nice.
Overall, I'm loving this game. It's a very fluid playing game and it seems to be realistic in most facets. I might be in the minority here as well, but I really like the concept of the Madden IQ. Since I'm weak on pass defense, I'm glad that it's there to adjust for me. It also handicaps me to an extent on offense since I tested so high (All Madden on both), but I'm cool with that. In past games I could rack up points like no ones business on All Pro, and I had the same issue in NCAA - I averaged over 70ppg for AN ENTIRE SEASON on the 2nd hardest difficulty. So, in all, this seems to be a balanced game at the moment, so we'll see what happens with more plays.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy @ Aug 13 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I beat the Patriots online when I was the Raiders.
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Yeah the few times I've played online (I get disconnected CONSTANTLY) I've been doing good with the Raiders. My first game I was playing some guy with the Chargers and I was like "oh here we go again hes gonna cheese the shit out of me, LT's gonna have 300 yds and 6 TDs, Merriman will sack me 12 times, and Gates is gonna rape my ass". Only the Gates part came true (TEs are insanely good in this game). I was actually successful in stopping LT by run committing my D-Lineman which forced him to go outside and bought time for my LBs and safeties to come in and make a play. This is probably also why Gates was raping me but I'd rather have Gates rape me for 100 yds than LT for 300+. On offense I was actually successful by using realistic strategies (OMG!!11)- started off with a bunch of one to three step drop quick passes to get the blitz to alleviate and when my recievers caught the ball his whole LB corps was 10 yds behind because they blitzed. Started pounding the sh*t out of the ball with Fargas up the middle. Threw the occasional deep ball in classic Raiders fashion so that he'd stay honest. Throw in a couple outside runs but only to keep it in his head because its hard as hell to run in the flats against the Chargers.
Also one time I made a beautiful punt with Lechler and he didn't fair catch, right as his guy caught the ball 3 Raiders drilled him, fumble, my ball at the 10 yd line, score. I picked him twice as well because he was trying to do BS 25 yd throws while running full speed under pressure.
Hurray for anti-cheeser Madden!
Yeah the few times I've played online (I get disconnected CONSTANTLY) I've been doing good with the Raiders. My first game I was playing some guy with the Chargers and I was like "oh here we go again hes gonna cheese the shit out of me, LT's gonna have 300 yds and 6 TDs, Merriman will sack me 12 times, and Gates is gonna rape my ass". Only the Gates part came true (TEs are insanely good in this game). I was actually successful in stopping LT by run committing my D-Lineman which forced him to go outside and bought time for my LBs and safeties to come in and make a play. This is probably also why Gates was raping me but I'd rather have Gates rape me for 100 yds than LT for 300+. On offense I was actually successful by using realistic strategies (OMG!!11)- started off with a bunch of one to three step drop quick passes to get the blitz to alleviate and when my recievers caught the ball his whole LB corps was 10 yds behind because they blitzed. Started pounding the sh*t out of the ball with Fargas up the middle. Threw the occasional deep ball in classic Raiders fashion so that he'd stay honest. Throw in a couple outside runs but only to keep it in his head because its hard as hell to run in the flats against the Chargers.
Also one time I made a beautiful punt with Lechler and he didn't fair catch, right as his guy caught the ball 3 Raiders drilled him, fumble, my ball at the 10 yd line, score. I picked him twice as well because he was trying to do BS 25 yd throws while running full speed under pressure.
Hurray for anti-cheeser Madden!
