Man tries to attack cop by running away from him

[SlyPokerDog]

What if the guy told the Cop, fuck you! I am going to get my rifle, and when I get back, you are dead cop.

What if he said, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

 

[PtldPlatypus]

What if the guy told the Cop, fuck you! I am going to get my rifle, and when I get back, you are dead cop.

Then shooting him wouldn't be anywhere close to justified. There is no imminent threat.

I suppose the cop might be more concerned about his record than you.

I imagine so; regardless, there is no justification for elevating one's own reputation or employment status over another's life.

 

[MarAzul]

so at the very least in this situation the cop should not have been seeking fatal action.

Oh I agree, given all I have seen and heard.

 

[MarAzul]

I imagine so; regardless, there is no justification for elevating one's own reputation or employment status over another's life.

That is very noble.

 

[MarAzul]

Then shooting him wouldn't be anywhere close to justified. There is no imminent threat.

So the cop is guilty of premeditated murder, even if he might know of a threat, unless he waits until the threat matures to imminent.

Sounds like you only want the best, hang the rest.

 

[MarAzul]

What if he said, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die."

Oh well then we would not be wishing the cop his just due, it would be a done deal.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

That is very noble.

No, it really isn't. It's basic humanity.

So the cop is guilty of premeditated murder, even if he might know of a threat, unless he waits until the threat matures to imminent.

No, not premeditated. IMO, second degree. But yes, a threat needs to be imminent in order to justify lethal force. Potential for a future threat isn't enough.

I don't see what's so complicated about that.

 

[MarAzul]

No, not premeditated. IMO,second degree

From what I can see, second degree seems correct. But I think they charge him with First Degree. Apparently the jury can consider manslaughter if they can not agree on the murder charge.
Geez, I would think more than one would have trouble with the First degree charge.

 

[magnifier661]

Well I guess this will set the new standard. Find this cop guilty of murder one, give him about 25 years. It won't make him any smarter but it will send the message to cops, Don't shoot anyone!
Now why the hell will anyone pay any attention to the Cops? They are harmless, just run away instead of submitting to arrest.

I think you have me confused with someone else. I totally support a cop to defending himself by leathal force. I do not support a cop killing someone that isn't a threat (no weapon, running away).

I am equally against crooked cops to be on mafia payrolls or using their power to sell drugs. I'm sure you agree right?

 

[Hobbesarable]

I think you have me confused with someone else. I totally support a cop to defending himself by leathal force. I do not support a cop killing someone that isn't a threat (no weapon, running away).

I am equally against crooked cops to be on mafia payrolls or using their power to sell drugs. I'm sure you agree right?

I'm just surprised they (the jurors) did not come to a unanimous guilty verdict before this weekend.

I have several friends within the Portland Police Bureau and they tell me about their difficulties all the time ranging from petty thieves to murderers. They have one of the most difficult jobs of all. I'm proud of the good cops protecting us from the adverse elements of our society. A few bad cops, like Slager, make it that much more difficult for the good cops.

 

[magnifier661]

I'm just surprised they (the jurors) did not come to a unanimous guilty verdict before this weekend.

I have several friends within the Portland Police Bureau and they tell me about their difficulties all the time ranging from petty thieves to psycho murderers. They have one of the most difficult jobs of all. I'm proud of the good cops protecting us from the adverse elements of our society. A few bad cops, like Michael Slager, make it that much more difficult for the good cops.

Amen to that.

 

[MarAzul]

I think you have me confused with someone else.

>>>No, I thought you were Magnifier6611.

I do not support a cop killing someone that isn't a threat (no weapon, running away).

>>> I don't either.
But then I don't run away when a cop stops me, even though I do get rather tired of the process, Seven time this year interfacing with a cop.
I don't suppose you run either.
I don't think the police are trained to handle it properly, and I don't think a lone officer should be initiating a confrontation for any reason other than a traffic violation, which he will leave rather than escalate.

I do not think this is current policy any where let alone all over the country. If it were, then this guy is guilty of murder. Since it is not, the policy is wrong and the cop in not responsible for bad policy. My guess is, since I do not know what caused the cop to fear, he is guilty of poor judgement and Manslaughter due to poor judgement. Perhaps his supervisors are also for not having good policy and putting a cop with poor judgement on the street.

I am equally against crooked cops to be on mafia payrolls or using their power to sell drugs. I'm sure you agree right?

Spot on Mags, don't want any drug dealing cops anywhere.