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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Philadelphia 76ers President Billy King announced today that the Sixers have traded forward Marc Jackson and an undisclosed amount of cash to the New Jersey Nets in exchange for a conditional second round pick in the 2006 NBA Draft.

In five NBA seasons, the 6-foot-10 forward has played with three different teams: Golden State (2000-02), Minnesota (2002-03) and Philadelphia (2003-05), averaging 9.0 points and 4.7 rebounds in 267 games (71 starts). Last season, Jackson averaged 12.0 points and 5.0 rebounds in a career-high 81 games (23 starts) with the 76ers, while shooting 46.5 percent (340-731 FG) from the field.</div>

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<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J.-- The New Jersey Nets on Tuesday rescinded their trade with the Portland Trail Blazers for forward Shareef Abdur-Rahim and acquired forward Marc Jackson from Philadelphia.</div>

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Nets had planned to use their trade exception to acquire the 29-year-old Abdur-Rahim, who has averaged 19.9 points and 8.1 rebounds in nine years with Vancouver, Atlanta and Portland. With the trade exception scheduled to expire at midnight Tuesday, New Jersey was forced to scramble to make a deal.</div>

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Wow, this is a real turn of events. I really thought the deal with SAR was gonna go through, I'm very disappointed. I don't see Marc Jackson doing any bette rthan SAR was going to. This is a big disappointment to me as a Nets fan..

Anybody have any positive feedback on this?
 
Well, Marc Jackson is a big-bodied rebounder with decent low-post moves. It's not a bad deal, but it puts you guys in a situation where your frontcourt would be mismatched against some of the quicker frontcourts in the NBA because Marc Jackson or Jason Collins would start at the PF spot.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, Marc Jackson is a big-bodied rebounder with decent low-post moves. It's not a bad deal, but it puts you guys in a situation where your frontcourt would be mismatched against some of the quicker frontcourts in the NBA because Marc Jackson or Jason Collins would start at the PF spot.</div>

I don't think Thorn is done yet. He's going to go after a legit 4 to start like Reggie Evans, Gooden, possibly Wilcox, or possibly someone unexpected.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Thorn is done yet. He's going to go after a legit 4 to start like Reggie Evans, Gooden, possibly Wilcox, or possibly someone unexpected.</div>

What I question is, do they have the assets left to go after someone like Gooden or Evans? Their trade exception is gone, as is half of the MLE, and their most valuable asset <u>tradeable</u> at this moment is Zoran Planinic. I wonder if Rod Thorn explored the option of trading the exception and a pick for Drew Gooden.
 
man we are toast! can this get any worst!
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if you gona compare SAR to JAckson its like comparing 2 Plane ticket, 1 is First class and the other is Economy!

Jackson is definitly an upgrade
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from collins but WAY DOWN grade
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from SAR!

but i think thorn still have something left on his bag of tricks. but this trade really happend so quickly! who would have though of this in the begining
 
Pretending like SAR wasn't even supposed to come here, I think it's a solid signing. I'm sold on his abilities when i watched a couple of the Sixers games. If we don't sign another big (which we probably will), then i'd see Jackson starting at the 5 and Krstic at the 4.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting giftedvisionz:</div><div class="quote_post">Pretending like SAR wasn't even supposed to come here, I think it's a solid signing. I'm sold on his abilities when i watched a couple of the Sixers games. If we don't sign another big (which we probably will), then i'd see Jackson starting at the 5 and Krstic at the 4.</div>

Nah, Krstic at 5, Jackson at 4 is much better.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">What I question is, do they have the assets left to go after someone like Gooden or Evans? Their trade exception is gone, as is half of the MLE, and their most valuable asset <u>tradeable</u> at this moment is Zoran Planinic. I wonder if Rod Thorn explored the option of trading the exception and a pick for Drew Gooden.</div>

They still have a 1st round pick from the Kenyon Martin deal, which they would use as the main piece as at trade as well as the draft rights to Mile Ilic.
 
Jackson at the 5 is a better matchup for opposing teams. Krstic is quicker than him, and significantly leaner. M-Jax is a bigger body, and he could bang down low better than Krstic.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">They still have a 1st round pick from the Kenyon Martin deal, which they would use as the main piece as at trade as well as the draft rights to Mile Ilic.</div>

Mile Ilic, I doubt we use him as bait. We didnt even want to give him to Portland to acquire Rahim before the whole scar tissue deal. The Nets see something special in him for the future. I dont know anything about the kid so I cant really comment on his skills or potential.

The last pick left from the K-Mart deal is the Clipper pick. I can tell you that unless it is part of a package to get an elite type PF, it wont be given away. Not for a Gooden or Wright. The Nets do have their own 06 pick, which they were going to use to acquire Reef as something to deal.
 
Chemistry-wise, I think that the aquisition of Jackson is much much better than the aquisition of SAR. SAR is a predominiently a scorer, finesse player. Jackson is a physical player who, I assume can rebound and play very good man-to-man defense. The best thing about the guy: he has two years left on his contract. The Nets will certainly look to aqcuire another big guy as injury insurence.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting typemilitant:</div><div class="quote_post"> I don't see Marc Jackson doing any better than SAR was going to. This is a big disappointment to me as a Nets fan..

Anybody have any positive feedback on this?</div>

Not actually true. The reason is that SAR is a scorer and you already have 2-3 guys who provide this. SAR isn't all that ferocious on defense and I think that's what you need.

Nenad and Collins always seemed a lil too soft to me. You need someone who comes in a bangs that doesn't give a **** about anyone on the other team.

You gotta a true work horse in this trade.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting N4S:</div><div class="quote_post">Not actually true. The reason is that SAR is a scorer and you already have 2-3 guys who provide this. SAR isn't all that ferocious on defense and I think that's what you need.

Nenad and Collins always seemed a lil too soft to me. You need someone who comes in a bangs that doesn't give a **** about anyone on the other team.

You gotta a true work horse in this trade.</div>



I agree. Marc Jackson is a much better fit than SAR is for this Nets team. He'll work harder on the boards and bang. He's not the scorer SAR is but he's still servicable offensively. Plus you only gave up a second rounder, that first is still valuable and will almost certainly be used in another trade. Sign and trade with the Raps for Alston and Bonner
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A lottery protected first round pick (Clippers') for BOTH Alston AND Bonner? Tell me you're kidding 02civic. Not to mention that Bonner may not even be a Raptor and the salaries don't work out.
 
Marc Jackson isn't a very good rebounder. SAR would've been better. Marc has a nice mid range jumper and benefited greatly like Kyle Korver did on pentetrations by Iverson last season. He's painfully slow, I think Yao could beat him in a foot race. I think he'll be good off the bench but definitely not starting material at all. I'd rather see Cliff over him in the line up. I see the pick up like the Elden Cambell pick up for the Pistons, as an option to gaurd Shaq. In the '03 playoffs, Marc did a fine job on drawing Shaq out from the paint cause of his jumper and being a big strong body to hold Shaq. Shaq destroys us everytime we played and I think this is a nice piece to perhaps hold Shaq to 25 points instead of 35+
 
Any chance Sam Clancy makes the roster to provide some points on the inside for the Nets? He was a beast in the summer league and averaged close to a double double for the Nets team. I realize he's undersized, but most PFs in the league, especially out East have undersized backups.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Marc Jackson isn't a very good rebounder. SAR would've been better. Marc has a nice mid range jumper and benefited greatly like Kyle Korver did on pentetrations by Iverson last season. He's painfully slow, I think Yao could beat him in a foot race. I think he'll be good off the bench but definitely not starting material at all. I'd rather see Cliff over him in the line up. I see the pick up like the Elden Cambell pick up for the Pistons, as an option to gaurd Shaq. In the '03 playoffs, Marc did a fine job on drawing Shaq out from the paint cause of his jumper and being a big strong body to hold Shaq. Shaq destroys us everytime we played and I think this is a nice piece to perhaps hold Shaq to 25 points instead of 35+</div>



I think he will do more for us then Elden Campbell did for the Pistons, simply off the strenght he will play much more then Campbell did in Detroit either season. I think as the rotation is now, he will get about 20 mintes per game, easily. Collins and Krstic stay in alot of foul trouble, and Cliff is still a good defender, but doesnt have the size to deal with 5's, so that is why Jackson will have a regular spot in the rotation.

I dont know if Clancy makes the team, he had a big Summer League, but the mangement could look at that from a standpoint that Clancy is a Summer League veteran, so he is comfortable in that situation, so he will know how to take advbantage of young kids, who are nervous and just happy to play their first games in this league. And not take Clancy's play as a true assesment of whether he can play in this league or not. I would rather give Clancy a shot, then waste money on Croshere personally.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nextlevelgame:</div><div class="quote_post"> Marc Jackson isn't a very good rebounder. SAR would've been better. </div>

Sure, SAR could provide higher rebounds, but Marc is not as bad as you think at rebounding.

Last season, Marc is not a starter, he still has 5 rebounds per game, SAR got it by 7.3. They are not differed too much. In nets, he would be a reliable rebounder, and his furious dirty working could intimidate others in the paint.

Overall, although he is worse than SAR, he still has some advantages that SAR doesn't have.
 
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think he will do more for us then Elden Campbell did for the Pistons, simply off the strenght he will play much more then Campbell did in Detroit either season</div>

Didn't say it'd be exactly alike, but that it's similar in principle.


<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Last season, Marc is not a starter, he still has 5 rebounds per game, SAR got it by 7.3. They are not differed too much. In nets, he would be a reliable rebounder, and his furious dirty working could intimidate others in the paint.</div>

SAR spent most of his time on the perimeter last year which is why his rebounding was lower. Marc doesn't have the lateral movement and positioning that most good rebounders have. He started a lot of games last year and I remember him getting 2 rebounds every now and then in 20+ minutes. Furious rebounder? You make it seem like it's not his job to get rebounds. He's a big, and that is what he's supposed to do.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Overall, although he is worse than SAR, he still has some advantages that SAR doesn't have.</div>

Well you could've say that for any player..unless we got Tim Duncan or KG. Bottom line is that Marc Jackson is a good piece, but SAR was a key piece. SAR would've put us near contention, Marc doesn't really help as much.

I would wish that Nets fans don't overrate this pick up cause it's not as great. Marc will be a nice player but he won't change many games, if any at all. He's just here as a weapon against Shaq and Duncan. It'd work if we were on contention level but we're still far from there... I hope Rod has something cooked up to get us a decent to good starting quality power forward.
 
^ See, nextlevel, I get your point that it isnt a great subsitution for not getting Shareef. And I agree 100%. But where I dont agree is that his major role here is to matchup with the likes of Shaq & Duncan. While that is definately one of his roles, I think Nets mangement and coaching staff is expecting much more from him. I think he will be used in our offense on a consistent basis....especially in pick & roll/pick & pop plays with RJ or Vince. I dont think he will get an abundance of touches in the post..but the Nets will let him get some. And run a play or two from time to time that allows other guys to play off of him down low. He wont be a starter...but I do see a legit role for him.
 
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