Marcus Williams' comeback so far

[Dark Defender]

I still believe in the guy and we gotta have patience but

 

[Universe]

He's trying to much or we really overrated his comeback.

 

[GMJ]

So far he's played miserable and up to my expectations. I think its way too soon to make any definitive statement about his skill level as a player, or the level that he'll play at this season.

 

[Jizzy]

he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.

 

[jtballa2o1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games

 

[reganomics813]

Who here didn't think conditioning was going to be a problem when he got back from a broken foot? Let me see the hands.

He played great in summer league because he was in shape. Give him some time. DA can help pick up the slack until he's 100%.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games
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OH WOW, TWO FUCKING GAMES!!!! HE HASN"T PLAYED SINCE SUMMER LEAGUE!!!!! HE JUST HAD A BROKEN FOOT!!!!! HIS TIMING IS GOING TO BE SO OFF

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games
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OH WOW, TWO FUCKING GAMES!!!! HE HASN"T PLAYED SINCE SUMMER LEAGUE!!!!! HE JUST HAD A BROKEN FOOT!!!!! HIS TIMING IS GOING TO BE SO OFF
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Oh snap, he had a broken foot last year, too?

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games
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OH WOW, TWO FUCKING GAMES!!!! HE HASN"T PLAYED SINCE SUMMER LEAGUE!!!!! HE JUST HAD A BROKEN FOOT!!!!! HIS TIMING IS GOING TO BE SO OFF
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Oh snap, he had a broken foot last year, too?
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**** are you talking about?

 

[jtballa2o1]

lol i agree wth You Jizzy give him time, but the thing that kinda sucks is that it looked like he was in shape and ready to play bball in training camp, so I still hope hes in shape for the season and the foot injury didnt throw him off.

 

[Jizzy]

lmao, no response from kid Choc. probably went back to the hole he came from.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lmao, no response from kid Choc. probably went back to the hole he came from.</div>


You can't possibly be that dumb, to miss the sarcasm, my point, and then try to call me out on it, based on your own stupidity. Please tell me you aren't that dumb.

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games
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OH WOW, TWO FUCKING GAMES!!!! HE HASN"T PLAYED SINCE SUMMER LEAGUE!!!!! HE JUST HAD A BROKEN FOOT!!!!! HIS TIMING IS GOING TO BE SO OFF
</div>

Oh snap, he had a broken foot last year, too?
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**** are you talking about?
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He's talking about the fact that Marcus's timing was off last year as well. In fact, Marcus was off on almost everything last year. And don't give me any "he was just a rookie" garbage. He played as horribly late in the year as he was at the start of the year. Not one sign of improvement.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Dec 22 2007, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Dec 22 2007, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>
2 games
</div>


OH WOW, TWO FUCKING GAMES!!!! HE HASN"T PLAYED SINCE SUMMER LEAGUE!!!!! HE JUST HAD A BROKEN FOOT!!!!! HIS TIMING IS GOING TO BE SO OFF
</div>

Oh snap, he had a broken foot last year, too?
</div>


**** are you talking about?
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He's talking about the fact that Marcus's timing was off last year as well. In fact, Marcus was off on almost everything last year. And don't give me any "he was just a rookie" garbage. He played as horribly late in the year as he was at the start of the year. Not one sign of improvement.
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cool, let's write off rookies and judge them off rookie years. Marcus sucks, waive him and bring back Gill

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lmao, no response from kid Choc. probably went back to the hole he came from.</div>


You can't possibly be that dumb, to miss the sarcasm, my point, and then try to call me out on it, based on your own stupidity. Please tell me you aren't that dumb.
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that was a really sorry try at sarcasm. yet you were dumb enough to write it. NEVER in your life try that again

 

[JCB]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes, lets wavie Marcus and bring back Gill</div>

Where did that come from? Nice red herring.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lmao, no response from kid Choc. probably went back to the hole he came from.</div>


You can't possibly be that dumb, to miss the sarcasm, my point, and then try to call me out on it, based on your own stupidity. Please tell me you aren't that dumb.
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that was a really sorry try at sarcasm. yet you were dumb enough to write it. NEVER in your life try that again
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It was a sorry try because you couldn't comprehend it? Quit the tough guy persona, and be nice for a change or don't post at all. Don't know why you feel you have some sort of agenda of being a negative asshole in the past couple weeks, but the act is getting tiresome.

*waits for ad-hominem to couple with red herring*

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 01:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lmao, no response from kid Choc. probably went back to the hole he came from.</div>


You can't possibly be that dumb, to miss the sarcasm, my point, and then try to call me out on it, based on your own stupidity. Please tell me you aren't that dumb.
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that was a really sorry try at sarcasm. yet you were dumb enough to write it. NEVER in your life try that again
</div>


It was a sorry try because you couldn't comprehend it? Quit the tough guy persona, and be nice for a change or don't post at all. Don't know why you feel you have some sort of agenda of being a negative asshole in the past couple weeks, but the act is getting tiresome.
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sorry, i just post my opinion on the team yet I get critcized for it even though everything i said was true. what possble reason would i have for having an agenda against my favorite team? BTW, it's not an act.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Remember, you were the one that strayed this discussion from the team, to a personal attack aimed @ me. Stick to the Nets.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Remember, you were the one that strayed this discussion from the team, to a personal attack aimed @ me. Stick to the Nets.</div>
yes i did, but you've done the same many times before. Nothing new to you.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

Attacking a person and attacking their points are two different things.

Pointless conversation, back on topic, plz.

You get the last word, you win.




Marcus gives me no hope.

 

[jtballa2o1]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Attacking a person and attacking their points are two different things.

Pointless conversation, back on topic, plz.

You get the last word, you win.




Marcus gives me no hope.</div>
watching you 2 fight is so kool lol

 

[Belarus]

if Marcus learns how to convert on his layups he'll be very dangerous on the offensive end as his ability to penetrate the paint noticeable even when he is not 100%. overall, it's waay too early to evaluate his comeback so far.

 

[soul driver]

he's going to take time to get back in the swing of things. hopefully mid-late janurary.

 

[Joey FistPump]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Dec 22 2007, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's played in one game. you guys are freakin nuts.</div>

Amen. Two games so far since coming back from surgery, lets at least give him 10 full games before we start calling his return a disappointment. BTW I hate calling a player coming back from a routine injury a comeback or calling a young player who is still developing returning from a injury a comeback.

A comeback is when somebody sustains a career threatining injury or takes significant time away from the game IE Jordan in 96 or Mourning from a kidney transplant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Dec 22 2007, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marcus gives me no hope.</div>

Then your hopeless. I mean come on bro the kid (he is a kid) just returned after missing almost 3 months of activity do to injury and after two games you want to call him a disappointment. If you want to make a statement how Marcus didn't do anything last year than do it. Don't disguise a comment about last years performance though like it relates to a problem coming of injury. Also keep in mind Frank is the worst coach at developing young players. Marcus was an inconsitent player last year because he got inconsistent minutes...all analysts had Marcus rated as the best PG in the draft. The reason Rondo and now Farmar are more consistent is cause they have had big time minutes force fed to them helping them to become better players.

Frank ignores potential and plays journeymen like Vaughn now Armstrong and instead of developing the potential he allows it to die...hello Antione Wright.

 

[Kid Chocolate]

If you don't earn playing time, you aren't going to get it, it's that simple.

 

[cpawfan]

If Marcus was Knick, 99% of you would be talking about how much he sucks.

Take off the Nets glasses

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Dec 22 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's going to take time to get back in the swing of things. hopefully mid-late janurary.</div>

What do you mean "back"?

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Dec 22 2007, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Dec 22 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>he's going to take time to get back in the swing of things. hopefully mid-late janurary.</div>

What do you mean "back"?
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Well technically speaking he's playing worse than he did last year.

On a another, but relevant, note, I would caution Nets fans by judging Marcus too harshly because everytime he steps onto the court he gets compared to a calliber of PG that only comes around every decade or so.

 

[Jizzy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Dec 22 2007, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If Marcus was Knick, 99% of you would be talking about how much he sucks.

Take off the Nets glasses</div>
lmao, most of us wouldnt have paid attention to him. Hell, Balkman and lee ar eon the Knicks and most of us want them.

Take off your Zoran glasses for once.