Masoli suspended 2010 season

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Even after reading it, it's still an assault, even if she was as guilty of it as he was.

Remind me what her punishment is for instigating and (in your words) being as guilty of it as he was? I didn't say it wasn't (technically) assault, pretty benign stuff to froth at the mouth over though. Pathetic is those who'll run with this as if it's really something. Claiming that he got off light is laughable.

Wild guess RR7... another Beaver fan?

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[RR7]

one game is light. especially compared to what happened with blount.

And no, your wild guess is wrong. Nice try though.

 

[julius]

Remind me what her punishment is for instigating and (in your words) being as guilty of it as he was?

Not sure what that has to do with anything. From what the court papers said, she should've been punished but her lack of punishment doesn't vindicate him or alleviate him of wrong doing. He escalated it far more than what she did. And I'd bet he's slightly stronger than she is.

So if she punched him first, but he tackled her and assaulted her does that mean he shouldn't get punished if she doesn't?

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For me, it doesn't matter if it's a Duck or a Beaver. Neither school is free from stupid behavior or criticism for stupid behavior.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Oregon Fumb-as-Ducks

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

or a less family friendly version: The Oregon Dumb Fuck Ducks

 

[STOMP]

one game is light. especially compared to what happened with blount.

Blount's acts were very violent and (though provoked) went after fans which is pretty much a cardinal sin for something as PR dependent as college football. I'm on record saying he deserved up to have his scholi completely yanked if the powers that be thought that it was appropriate.

Besides not handling his personal love life as smoothly as he might, I don't see much wrong with LJ's behavior. Far from violent, the court account made it seem as if he met hysteria with relative restraint. He didn't try to hurt her even when she broke his personal property (necklace). Removing a hysterical person from one's property who is threatening a guest seems a reasonable action to me... calling the cops would have been better but I might well have done the same thing.

comparing the two incidents is apples and soft peaches

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[Wheels]

RR7 come on man.. you know I dont hate you or anything.. but a USC fan calling out another program on ethics?

 

[STOMP]

Not sure what that has to do with anything. From what the court papers said, she should've been punished but her lack of punishment doesn't vindicate him or alleviate him of wrong doing. He escalated it far more than what she did. And I'd bet he's slightly stronger than she is.

okay I'm out the door in 5 minutes but please explain as I couldn't disagree more. She showed up at his residence, threatened his guest, wouldn't leave when asked, broke his personal property, and stole his keys.

So if she punched him first, but he tackled her and assaulted her does that mean he shouldn't get punished if she doesn't?

I once tackled a guy who stole my wallet and then broke his nose when he didn't immediately didn't hand it back. A bleeding mess on the ground beneath me, I then grabbed it from his coat spit on him and left. Should I have been arrested for assault and stealing my wallet back?

For me, it doesn't matter if it's a Duck or a Beaver. Neither school is free from stupid behavior or criticism for stupid behavior.

me too, but this is a weak example of stupid behavior... more like unfortunate behavior that I'm not sure the police should have been involved in.

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[julius]

okay I'm out the door in 5 minutes but please explain as I couldn't disagree more. She showed up at his residence, threatened his guest, wouldn't leave when asked, broke his personal property, and stole his keys.

If someone threatens your guest, close the door on them (as they did). I'm not sure if I'd condone physically removing someone, in this case I'd call a cop or if it's a girlfriend/whatever, someone who knew her and could handle it. I'm not going to get myself into a situation where I could get in trouble.

It sounds like she was yelling and being a spastic person. Then broke his necklace and he even admits he got angry at this. Pushed her into his car (escalating). She stole his keys and he gave chase. They say he "grabbed" her waist and they fell, but I'm not sure how that could be anything but a tackle (of sorts).

That's more than what she did.

Did she take his keys and deserve to be knocked down? Probably. Although why his keys were still in the ignition.

No one is free of guilt here, but it's not like he acted like a good Sam here.

I once tackled a guy who stole my wallet and then broke his nose when he didn't immediately didn't hand it back. A bleeding mess I then grabbed it from his coat. Should I have been arrested for assault and stealing my wallet back?

Not entirely the same (although I see your point). This wasn't a stranger, this was someone he knew. yes, she was at his residence (or whatever) and was bothering his guest. But it seems to be kind of a slippery slope here, since you could then argue that a man should be able to break his girlfriends nose because she took something from him.

me too, but this is a weak example of stupid behavior... more like unfortunate behavior that I'm not sure the police should have been involved in.

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She's guilty of being a Jerry Springer fan, and he's guilty of being an idiot. It'll be really nice when we can have threads about winning and losing.

 

[ehizzy3]

did she really break her nose?

 

[RR7]

RR7 come on man.. you know I dont hate you or anything.. but a USC fan calling out another program on ethics?

That's actually exactly why I'm mocking it. All of the shit I have seen here and elsewhere to mock USC, and for recruiting violations, and someone like Bush getting money from an agent, and the amount of times because of that USC has been mocked as a program. But then when players on someone else's program grab women by the throat and throw them into cars, tackle them, get sentenced to 10 days in jail, rob shit, and punch other players, those people defend their program. That's bullshit and hypocritical. Chip probably already decided he wasn't starting Masoli, and so figured getting rid of him was fine. 1 game for James is a joke. And I am certain if Matt Barkley grabsa girl around the neck and pushes her up against his car, for whatever reason, the majority here would mock USC if he only got a one game suspension. Minor recruiting violations by Kiffin get them mocked. Recruiting a 13 year old gets them mocked. But then there is defense of James for assaulting someone. And Chip Kelly suspending him for a meaningless game. 10 days in jail, 1 game suspension.

How is what Blount did so much worse. Because it looked violent? Were you around to watch what James did? Guessing no. So hold the thought on what was violent and what was not. Unless you think just being on television means it deserves losing a scholarship over a 1 game suspension. How violent would it look to someone else to see a football player grab a girl by her throat and push her against his car? Sounds violent to me.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Masoli featured on TMZ!

The Ducks have made it big time now!

http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/12/oregon-ducks-jeremiah-masoli-burglary-misdemeanor-suspended-season/

 

[TehChad]

To all of those who think James is getting preferential treatment, I ask you this: just how valuable do you think he is to the Ducks' program? There's no question he's a great back, but if you look at the Ducks' roster, they are absolutely LOADED at his position. I mean suppose James got kicked out of the program...oh darn, I guess this means we have to start #1 RB prospect, 5-star super recruit Lache Seastrunk. There's plenty of other highly touted backs in addition to Seastrunk ready to go as well. If the coaching staff really did get together and try to decide if they should let James off the hook easily, don't you think this factor would've weighed very heavily against making that call?

 

[Fogojam]

WR Garrett Embry, Jr.
Offense: Stole computers and other electronics from SAE fraternity house on Jan. 23, caught from behind by fraternity member. Pleaded guilty on March 12 to second-degree burglary, a felony to be treated as a misdemeanor.

 

[Nate Dogg]

Zagsfan20, any comments on Oregon's football program? Things aren't so "Rosey" any more for the 20010-2011 season.

My signature is for Zagsfan20 arrogant comment about OS football program, where they have taken their program up and beyond since 2001 and have made great strides with players making the pac-10 first team, into the NFL, etc. Its the OS staff that has made these players play beyond everyone's expectations and they surprise teams in the NFL when they get drafted.

 

[MickZagger]

Zagsfan20, any comments on Oregon's football program? Things aren't so "Rosey" any more for the 20010-2011 season.

My signature is for Zagsfan20 arrogant comment about OS football program, where they have taken their program up and beyond since 2001 and have made great strides with players making the pac-10 first team, into the NFL, etc. Its the OS staff that has made these players play beyond everyone's expectations and they surprise teams in the NFL when they get drafted.

....and Oregon State has been squeaky clean in the recent past? I'm willing to bet that UO will still have a better record at the end of next season.

 

[STOMP]

Zagsfan20, any comments on Oregon's football program? Things aren't so "Rosey" any more for the 20010-2011 season.

certainly they aren't as rosey, has anyone claimed they were?

Are you going to take Zags offer or just slap tail and hide?

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[RoyToy]

I laugh at Beaver fans who think they'll be better than the Ducks next year,

 

[julius]

I laugh at Beaver fans who think they'll be better than the Ducks next year,

It's probably too early for either fanbase to think one team will be better than the other. Both are introducing new QB's, and have issues with their team.

There have been times when the Ducks were picked to be better and ended the season with a worse record, and same with the Beavers.

 

[STOMP]

It's probably too early for either fanbase to think one team will be better than the other. Both are introducing new QB's, and have issues with their team.

There have been times when the Ducks were picked to be better and ended the season with a worse record, and same with the Beavers.

People can hold any opinion they want... especially fans. It doesn't have to be completely rational when you talk up your team or make a bet on whats going to be what... for some fans thats part of the fun. You may have to eat some crow if you do, but there is nothing wrong with people believing in their team.

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