Matsuzaka has terrible outing

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>FORT MYERS, United States (AFP) - Daisuke Matsuzaka, Boston's prized Japanese import, surrendered two home runs Sunday as the Red Sox lost 5-3 to Baltimore in a spring training game.In his first rough outing of the spring, Matsuzaka allowed four runs - three earned - and six hits in four innings, striking out three.Orioles outfield prospects Jon Knott and Jason Dubois each homered as Matsuzaka's spring training ERA rose to 3.86.</div>Neither Jon Knott nor Jason Dubois is expected to make the roster. Something not said is that the 4th run, that was "unearned" was the result of Matsuzaka throwing the ball into the stands instead of to first base.Why is THIS story not on ESPN like the story of him having all those first pitch strikes was?

 

[chang]

Uhh... it was on the front page of ESPN all day yesterday...

 

[AdropOFvenom]

So what? It's spring training. He had a great first outing, a great first 2 innings of his second outing only to follow that up with 2 rough innings. He'll be fine.

 

[Agent Zero]

Orioles are just too good :beerbang:

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Mar 12 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhh... it was on the front page of ESPN all day yesterday...</div>Wasn't on Sportscenter that I saw, nor on the Radio.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 12 2007, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chang @ Mar 12 2007, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Uhh... it was on the front page of ESPN all day yesterday...</div>Wasn't on Sportscenter that I saw, nor on the Radio.</div>Was mentioned on both PTI and Around the Horn though.

 

[DevinHester23]

As if Clemens or Maddux have never been pounded every now and then??

 

[Brooksie5]

Vilma is just still sad that the Yankees didn't get him. So he has to point out every time he makes a mistake.

 

[Nebkreb]

eh its spring training w/e...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As if Clemens or Maddux have never been pounded every now and then?? rolleyes.gif</div>umm what? so hes a Clemens/Maddux now?

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Mar 12 2007, 10:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>eh its spring training w/e...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>As if Clemens or Maddux have never been pounded every now and then?? rolleyes.gif</div>umm what? so hes a Clemens/Maddux now?</div>I didn't say that. I just said that even the great ones have bad games. And yes, it is only Spring Training

 

[Agent Zero]

Everyone has a bad game against the O's

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 12 2007, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>As if Clemens or Maddux have never been pounded every now and then??

</div>Not by players who won't make a major league roster.

 

[Nebkreb]

then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.</div>So he was a legitimate pro player then...

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.</div>So he was a legitimate pro player then...</div>Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 13 2007, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.</div>So he was a legitimate pro player then...</div>Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?</div>Kinda like how Joe McEwing owned Randy Johnson.

 

[DevinHester23]

[quote name='AdropOFvenom' post='86689' date='Mar 13 2007, 09:44 PM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='86682' date='Mar 13 2007, 03:42 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='86667' date='Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM'][quote name='Nebkreb' post='86665' date='Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM']then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.[/quote]So he was a legitimate pro player then...[/quote]Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?[/quote]Kinda like how Joe McEwing owned Randy Johnson. [/quote]sure

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DevinHester23 @ Mar 13 2007, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jon_Vilma @ Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.</div>So he was a legitimate pro player then...</div>Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?</div>If you are playing in the pros long enough to accumulate a significant amount of at bats against 1 pitcher, especially a stud pitcher, you obviously aren't a scrub.

 

[Brooksie5]

Vilma. Check your personal messages (doesn't have anything to do with this topic).

 

[DevinHester23]

[quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='86732' date='Mar 14 2007, 02:54 AM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='86682' date='Mar 13 2007, 04:42 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='86667' date='Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM'][quote name='Nebkreb' post='86665' date='Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM']then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.[/quote]So he was a legitimate pro player then...[/quote]Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?[/quote]If you are playing in the pros long enough to accumulate a significant amount of at bats against 1 pitcher, especially a stud pitcher, you obviously aren't a scrub.[/quote]Neifi Perez is a scrub, and he's been in the league for 10 years.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

[quote name='DevinHester23' post='86748' date='Mar 14 2007, 12:36 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='86732' date='Mar 14 2007, 02:54 AM'][quote name='DevinHester23' post='86682' date='Mar 13 2007, 04:42 PM'][quote name='Jon_Vilma' post='86667' date='Mar 13 2007, 04:21 PM'][quote name='Nebkreb' post='86665' date='Mar 13 2007, 01:43 PM']then youve obviously never played baseball - every day, its possible for a terrible hitter to do well against a dominant pitcher. Luis Sojo batted something along the lines of .400 against Pedro Martinez, during the 4-5 years Sojo was on the Yanks and Pedro on the Sox.[/quote]So he was a legitimate pro player then...[/quote]Ok, how about a player who is a scrub, but he has one pitchers number?[/quote]If you are playing in the pros long enough to accumulate a significant amount of at bats against 1 pitcher, especially a stud pitcher, you obviously aren't a scrub.[/quote]Neifi Perez is a scrub, and he's been in the league for 10 years.[/quote]Yet he's good enough to continue holding a roster spot... so still better than the scrubs who rocked Dice K.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

Who's to say that either of those players won't be future Major Leaguers for a full decade either? I don't know much about the Orioles system, but they labeled them as 'PROSPECTS' for a reason, I'm sure.