Matthews is absolutely top ten SG

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He might be Top 5. Name 5 that are better than him right now.
 
He is easily top 10. Top 5 he is very close to.

1. Harden
2. Martin
3. Klay
4. Ellis
5. Wade
6. Wes
7. Beal
8. Afflalo
9. Hayward
10. Mayo
 
I like BGD a lot. He's a good-natured guy and I get a kick out of his crazy threading. But he's way out to lunch on this one saying that Wesley doesn't belong here.

I think he is top 5 because I'd rather have him over Wade, given Wade's mileage and iffy health. You just can't over appreciate the effect of a guy like Matthews on a team. His heart and will and undefeatable and I'd bet NBA coaches have him near the top of the list.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
I like BGD a lot. He's a good-natured guy and I get a kick out of his crazy threading. But he's way out to lunch on this one saying that Wesley doesn't belong here.

I think he is top 5 because I'd rather have him over Wade, given Wade's mileage and iffy health. You just can't over appreciate the effect of a guy like Matthews on a team. His heart and will and undefeatable and I'd bet NBA coaches have him near the top of the list.
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I love Wes as much as the next guy but if we could somehow in an alternate universe land Wade for Wes I'd do it. The guy is a 3 time champ and the 3rd best SG of all time (IMO).
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I love Wes as much as the next guy but if we could somehow in an alternate universe land Wade for Wes I'd do it. The guy is a 3 time champ and the 3rd best SG of all time (IMO).
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Obviously if Wade is healthy he is far superior, but those knees make me nervous. We've seen other elite SG's careers end suddenly such as Penny Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, or Brandon Roy. Wade was hobbled in much of the playoffs; a lot of SG's could've stood next to LeBron and got a title.
 
Draco said:
Obviously if Wade is healthy he is far superior, but those knees make me nervous. We've seen other elite SG's careers end suddenly such as Penny Hardaway, Tracy McGrady, or Brandon Roy. Wade was hobbled in much of the playoffs; a lot of SG's could've stood next to LeBron and got a title.
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I definitely see where you are coming from but if Wade were in Portland he would be asked to do even less than what he is asked to do in Miami. Besides LeBron, Miami isn't THAT good IMO.

If you put Wade next to Lillard in the backcourt along with our frontcourt of Nic, LA, and Lopez AND our bench getting involved we would be the favorites out west. Even if Wade was at 85%. We could run FAR more offensive plays with Wade because of his handling and ability to finish and draw fouls.

All of this is a moot point though.
 
I think once fans realize that the purpose the All-Star game serves for the NBA is hardly what it means to players and fans. It's marketing. The ballots are made before the season is even started, the voting starts in early November, and rookies aren't even eligible unless you write them in. It's all about driving traffic and eyes to ad dollars. This isn't news right? Wes is playing like an All-Star, the only shot he has to get in is a coaches vote, and that's just gonna have to be enough for Blazer fans and Wes. I'm thrilled if it motivates Wes to play more-angrier-est, because all I care about it this team playing an exciting brand of team basketball and racking up wins.
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
I definitely see where you are coming from but if Wade were in Portland he would be asked to do even less than what he is asked to do in Miami. Besides LeBron, Miami isn't THAT good IMO.

If you put Wade next to Lillard in the backcourt along with our frontcourt of Nic, LA, and Lopez AND our bench getting involved we would be the favorites out west. Even if Wade was at 85%. We could run FAR more offensive plays with Wade because of his handling and ability to finish and draw fouls.

All of this is a moot point though.
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Besides Lebron? So besides the best basketball player on the planet and possibly in the history of the game? Miami is pretty damn good without Wade. Bosh is comparable to LMA, their bench is better than ours, and Lebron is vastly superior to Lillard.
 
Blazer Fanatic said:
I think once fans realize that the purpose the All-Star game serves for the NBA is hardly what it means to players and fans. It's marketing. The ballots are made before the season is even started, the voting starts in early November, and rookies aren't even eligible unless you write them in. It's all about driving traffic and eyes to ad dollars. This isn't news right? Wes is playing like an All-Star, the only shot he has to get in is a coaches vote, and that's just gonna have to be enough for Blazer fans and Wes. I'm thrilled if it motivates Wes to play more-angrier-est, because all I care about it this team playing an exciting brand of team basketball and racking up wins.
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truth! hi from the other board btw (stackfan2005 because as rasheedfan2005 i was banned years ago lol)
 
Wes is perfect for this team. We need the three ball and is great at that.
 
Drexler was better than Wade, he just had the misfortune of playing AGAINST Jordan, not with him.
 
Blazer Fanatic said:
I think once fans realize that the purpose the All-Star game serves for the NBA is hardly what it means to players and fans. It's marketing. The ballots are made before the season is even started, the voting starts in early November, and rookies aren't even eligible unless you write them in. It's all about driving traffic and eyes to ad dollars. This isn't news right? Wes is playing like an All-Star, the only shot he has to get in is a coaches vote, and that's just gonna have to be enough for Blazer fans and Wes. I'm thrilled if it motivates Wes to play more-angrier-est, because all I care about it this team playing an exciting brand of team basketball and racking up wins.
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Question: Does he have to be on the ballot for the coaches to vote him onto the island?
 
This.
tlongII said:
Wes is perfect for this team. We need the three ball and is great at that.
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In our system, and with the current chip on his shoulder, he is a top 10 SG.

Value Added (VA):
LBJ 105.5 (2nd overall)
Bosh 39.7 (47)
Wade 35.5 (53)

LMA 55.4 (22)
Wes 51.3 (27)
Lillard 50.5 (29)

Who has the best "Big 3" right now? Not Miami - they have the best player in the world and 2 other guys while we have a TEAM.

Here's VA by position
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Wizard Mentor said:
Here's VA by position
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Man, Wesley's TS% is insane. He's shooting the ball better than JJ Redick and Klay Thompson.

Monta Ellis is, has always been and always will be a chucker. He has an insanely high USG, above Wade and just below Harden. On our team, he'd just take shots away from more efficient scorers. Plus, Wesley plays WAY better defense.

BNM
 
There's a definite dearth of elite shooting guards in the league right now, so sure I can see top ten.
 
I also found it interesting that OKC basically gave away 2 of the top 3 SGs on that list. That's what tight wad owners will do for you. They could have had a dynasty if they'd just paid Martin what he's worth. They could have amnestied Perkins (and his 3.9 PER) and just started Collison, who plays more minutes and is more productive than Perkins. And, this year, they have Steven Adams, who also plays more minutes and is way more productive than Perkins.

I hadn't realized that Kevin Martin was off to such a great start in MIN. No wonder they're winning. SG has been a huge weakness for them for years. Given Rubio's historically bad shooting, they REALLY need a good shooting 2 to play beside him. Martin gives them that, someone who can stretch the defense, creating lanes for Rubio to penetrate.

BNM
 
Wesley Matthews @wessywes2
Noted RT @artman2k5: @nbastats @wessywes2 no mid-range game, but who cares. He gets the job done. Great fantasy asset!!
 
wes has the 6th best PER among SGs, and the lowest USG in the top 20

theres no way he can keep this up, though i expect him to still be top 10 or so in PER by seasons end
 
I feel bad for Wes, but happy for us he was left off the all star ballot. I am sure he is pissed that Sacramento has two guards on the ballot (Greivis Vasquez, Thomas) and he was not......

Technically it is a moot point as the world wide all star vote is absurd, and his his only chance is from the coaches anyways. So I see this a good thing for us. Anything to fuel his fire.....
 
BlazerDuckSeahawkFan94 said:
Lol I'm nuts because I put him 3rd instead of 4th?
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You're nuts because the gulf between Wade and any of those three is wider than the Grand Canyon. There are plenty of other shooting guards that are arguably better than Wade; those three, there is no argument.
 
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