McCain's message to Americans

[MARIS61]

Today McCain made several clear statements to the voters by his actions.

1. He's afraid to debate Obama.

2. He has nothing of substance to advertise in his campaign.

3. He doesn't trust Palin, even merely to campaign in his absence.

4. He's frightened of embarassing himself on Letterman.

5. He can only "try" to handle one thing at a time.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

No, I think that he really fears that this problem, if it is not addressed with the severity that it has had could be more disasterous than arguing with his opponent about a variety of issues.

I tend to think that this crisis is going to have a greater impact on America than 9/11.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Do you really feel McCain is afraid to debate Obama? in all honesty....why would he be? He's been in a lot of debates, its not like Obama is necessarily intimidating whatsoever.

 

[cpawfan]

Today McCain made several clear statements to the voters by his actions.

1. He's afraid to debate Obama.

2. He has nothing of substance to advertise in his campaign.

3. He doesn't trust Palin, even merely to campaign in his absence.

4. He's frightened of embarassing himself on Letterman.

5. He can only "try" to handle one thing at a time.

That is some mighty impressive spin. I'm sure the will eat it up

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Do you really feel McCain is afraid to debate Obama? in all honesty....why would he be? He's been in a lot of debates, its not like Obama is necessarily intimidating whatsoever.

If McCain thought he could raise his numbers in the poll by debating, he would debate.

Both canidates are going to do what they need to to win the election. McCain has a nice out and the only reason he is taking it is because he thinks it would best for his campain.

He is right

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

If McCain thought he could raise his numbers in the poll, he would debate.

Both canidates are going to do what they need to to win the election. McCain has a nice out and the only reason he is taking it is because he thinks it would best for his campain.

He is right

Do you think people really want to know about a wide variety of issues? Or hear two guys with self-serving purposes argue for an hour and a half?

This country is pretty fucked right now. I see this situation no worse than a massive terrorist strike or huge natural disaster...maybe even moreso than the latter as this will affect every American for the next decade.

People are nervous, people do not know what is going to happen with the economy. I think a resolution of this matter is more important than partisan bickering.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Do you think people really want to know about a wide variety of issues? Or hear two guys with self-serving purposes argue for an hour and a half?

This country is pretty fucked right now. I see this situation no worse than a massive terrorist strike or huge natural disaster...maybe even moreso than the latter as this will affect every American for the next decade.

People are nervous, people do not know what is going to happen with the economy. I think a resolution of this matter is more important than partisan bickering.

If you think that either McCain or Obama are making big decisions based on anything else than how it affects the presidential race, you are not getting politics.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

If you think that either McCain or Obama are making big decisions based on anything else than how it affects the presidential race, you are not getting politics.

Well that's fine and dandy. So if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you don't think they would suspend their campaigns for the week and still have a debate?

And yes, I put this crisis on the scale of 9/11.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well that's fine and dandy. So if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you don't think they would suspend their campaigns for the week and still have a debate?

And yes, I put this crisis on the scale of 9/11.

What do you think McCain is going to do in the next 2 days to help this situation?

I say keep the Obama/McCain political battle out of way so people who are working to solve this don't have to put up with the politcal bullshit that goe along with either of the two canidates.

 

[maxiep]

Well that's fine and dandy. So if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you don't think they would suspend their campaigns for the week and still have a debate?

And yes, I put this crisis on the scale of 9/11.

So did Leon Panetta. In fact, he used the term "financial 9/11". Of course, I'm 100% convinced that the Clintons are doing everything they can to torpedo Obama's candidacy.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

What do you think McCain is going to do in the next 2 days to help this situation?

I say keep the Obama/McCain political battle out of way so people who are working to solve this don't have to put up with the politcal bullshit that goe along with either of the two canidates.

Well, this entire package will be debated in the Senate. McCain will probably have some influence, as the Republican nominee, as to convince the Republicans voting as to what the pros and cons of the package are and what needs to be modified.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

So did Leon Panetta. In fact, he used the term "financial 9/11". Of course, I'm 100% convinced that the Clintons are doing everything they can to torpedo Obama's candidacy.

I don't think 3,000 innocent American are going to die in one day over this.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

I don't think 3,000 innocent American are going to die in one day over this.

Obviously it is not a direct comparison. I could explain further if you wish.

 

[DennisRodman]

Well that's fine and dandy. So if 9/11 happened tomorrow, you don't think they would suspend their campaigns for the week and still have a debate?

And yes, I put this crisis on the scale of 9/11.

I put this crisis' impact greater than 9/11. However it's not as explosive, shocking, or as fear inducing as 9/11 was.

I mean the bad economy will impact more people's lives, and over a longer span of time. 9/11 took place on one day, and had a wow-factor to it.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Well, this entire package will be debated in the Senate. McCain will probably have some influence, as the Republican nominee, as to convince the Republicans voting as to what the pros and cons of the package are and what needs to be modified.

Great and the dems will disagree because an election is less than sixty days away.

Same with Obama, he has influence as the democratic nominee, as to convince the democrats voting as to what the pros and cons of the package are and what needs to be modified . . . and the republicans will disagree.

Those two need to stay out of it at this stage.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

I put this crisis' impact greater than 9/11. However it's not as explosive, shocking, or as fear inducing as 9/11 was.

I mean the bad economy will impact more people's lives, and over a longer span of time. 9/11 took place on one day, and had a wow-factor to it.

Well, 9/11 also impacted America for 5-6 years afterwards with the lowering of interest rates, fears, travelling, etc. The lowered interest rates spurred a lot of home buying and flipping, and we are here.

The thing is that what happens in the next two weeks will probably affect the next decade plus of America's financial future.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Great and the dems will disagree because an election is less than sixty days away.

Same with Obama, he has influence as the democratic nominee, as to convince the democrats voting as to what the pros and cons of the package are and what needs to be modified . . . and the republicans will disagree.

Those two need to stay out of it at this stage.

They need to both work together to help America, not distract everyone with their attack ads.

 

[maxiep]

I don't think 3,000 innocent American are going to die in one day over this.

That's why it's called a "financial" 9/11. It points to the depth of the crisis, not the body count.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

That's why it's called a "financial" 9/11. It points to the depth of the crisis, not the body count.

Well then I think it is a bad comparison to say is a debate appropriate the day after 9/11. No, it would be callous to have a debate after 3,000 American lives are lost.

Do I think it is appropriate to debate while congress tries to hash out this bailout bill. I do.

 

[maxiep]

Well then I think it is a bad comparison to say is a debate appropriate the day after 9/11. No, it would be callous to have a debate after 3,000 American lives are lost.

Do I think it is appropriate to debate while congress tries to hash out this bailout bill. I do.

It wasn't in reference to DELAYING the debate (not cancelling it). It was in reference to going back to DC and focus on putting the country over campaign. The two are separate issues.

As for 9/11, I lost dear friends that day, so you don't need to lecture me about how people should have acted.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Well then I think it is a bad comparison to say is a debate appropriate the day after 9/11. No, it would be callous to have a debate after 3,000 American lives are lost.

Do I think it is appropriate to debate while congress tries to hash out this bailout bill. I do.

Obama and McCain are going to be integrally influential in this bill if they participate in the congressional session. I don't think it is appropriate to campaign and argue while something of this magnitude that will affect us all is being negotiated and voted upon.

While 3,000 lives were lost on 9/11, this next week could have a similar impact. If this is handled wrong, the entire economy of the United States and the world could collapse. That's worst case scenario.

 

[DennisRodman]

Well, 9/11 also impacted America for 5-6 years afterwards with the lowering of interest rates, fears, travelling, etc. The lowered interest rates spurred a lot of home buying and flipping, and we are here.

The thing is that what happens in the next two weeks will probably affect the next decade plus of America's financial future.

Yea, but the government could have intervened in the situation to prevent such instability. However it would have slowed the economy somewhat in the short-term, because more mortgages = people have more money to spend, = the economy doing better.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Obama and McCain are going to be integrally influential in this bill if they participate in the congressional session. I don't think it is appropriate to campaign and argue while something of this magnitude that will affect us all is being negotiated and voted upon.

While 3,000 lives were lost on 9/11, this next week could have a similar impact. If this is handled wrong, the entire economy of the United States and the world could collapse. That's worst case scenario.

They are going to turn this bill into a political circus. They aren't going to help.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Yea, but the government could have intervened in the situation to prevent such instability. However it would have slowed the economy somewhat in the short-term, because more mortgages = people have more money to spend, = the economy doing better.

the problem was that people had more money to spend through Home Equity Line of Credits, which contributed to this credit crisis.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

They are going to turn this bill into a political circus. They aren't going to help.

How so? So they should just wash their hands clean of it and argue about things they aren't directly involved in implementing?

The resolution of this conflict WILL decide the White House. Whomever is going to take the lead here is more than likely going to win.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It wasn't in reference to DELAYING the debate (not cancelling it). It was in reference to going back to DC and focus on putting the country over campaign. The two are separate issues.

As for 9/11, I lost dear friends that day, so you don't need to lecture me about how people should have acted.

I lost a few with Cantor Fitzgerld too . .. and i never told you how people should act???

 

[Denny Crane]

McCain's real influence is with house republicans. They're looking for direction from the leader of their party.

This bill is a really big deal. It's not guaranteed to work at all, and the price tag is a 25% jump in the budget for this year. The budget is already huge. We're talking about as much as a $1.5T deficit for ONE YEAR if the bill passes as-is.

I applaud both men for taking even a small break to go back and lead their parties. Yes, it injects presidential politics into the mix, but maybe they're already in the mix anyhow.

McCain radically reduced his convention on the day the hurricane was to hit New Orleans. It really does seem to me that it would look like Nero fiddling while Rome burns (stole that from someone here!) if they continue their partisan bickering while a bipartisan effort is required to do anything on the Hill.

Sure, McCain's move today was a political move, too. He definitely knocked Obama for a loop. Obama went on stage and talked about 40 days from now, the economy becoming the next president's problem. I couldn't help but think to myself how from Nov. 4 to Jan 21 is 3 more months, Jr. Senator!

McCain asked for the meeting with Bush and Obama. Obama accepted. I guess it doesn't matter if the president is W, when he calls for you, you do go as asked.

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

Ironic, if Obama just votes "Present" on this bill, eh?

That's the sentiment that the "stay out of this and continue on" contingency of cynics and want to be comedians are saying.

 

[maxiep]

They are going to turn this bill into a political circus. They aren't going to help.

Like it or not, but both the Democrats and the Bush Administration need McCain right now. This bill would pass with only Dems voting for it, but the Democrats need the Republicans to vote for it as well or politically it's Kryptonite. The Bush Administration needs McCain to support it as well. McCain is now the de facto leader of the GOP, not President Bush.

McCain will thrust himself center stage and get Republican votes for this bill so both sides have political cover and it appears bi-partisan.

In this sense, Obama is right. He's not needed to perform the duties of his job. He can just continue to campaign. Pelosi and Reid have done all the heavy lifting for him.

Who were your friends at Cantor? Todd Pelino and Kaleen Pezzuti I was very close with.

 

[DennisRodman]

the problem was that people had more money to spend through Home Equity Line of Credits, which contributed to this credit crisis.

I dunno, but the way things turned out. The government of Bush's time cared about improving the happiness of the people during his terms at the expense of the people during the next terms.