MEDICAL POT

[MickZagger]

Thats the problem with super right, way too religious types. Way too judgemental.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Then move out of your parents house....the toilet roll method is cheaper, trust me

Listen to the Godfather. I live with a roommate on Tech's campus, get outta here.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Also, I don't smoke weed, Brian. Thou shalt not judge, bible basher.

 

[MickZagger]

It's a message board. I read almost every single post on here, and had an opinion. It's not that difficult.

I didn't add my 2 cents about how I feel about pot smokers. I added my 2 cents about how I feel about those who are obviously smart people who demonstrated their in-depth knowledge of illegal activity. And I didn't get upset at the vitriol and ignorance coming back, just like I didn't feel vindicated by the relevant responses and supporting opinions. PCE, if you feel that a set of posts in the thread talking about blatent illegal usage and using a TP roll so that your parents don't figure it out, or recommendations about products allowing you to smoke in church have anything to do with the OP's question (which, like Maxiep, I don't have any problem with) then we have differing opinions on "constructive discussion" and bashing. Which is fine, but not necessarily a mystery.

Oh get over it. I love how the people say 'illegal activity' like it actually means something. In most states getting caught with a little pot is equivelant to jay-walking or not wearing a seatbelt. I've been caught with a small amount of pot before and the officer just threw it away.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Oh get over it. I love how the people say 'illegal activity' like it actually means something. In most states getting caught with a little pot is equivelant to jay-walking or not wearing a seatbelt. I've been caught with a small amount of pot before and the officer just threw it away.

What a waste.

 

[maxiep]

Correction. I asked the Doc about MM, and he simply said he does not prescribe it. There was no discussion or medical explanation. He was open about the fact that his reasons aren't medical - he doesn't want to deal with dopers who fake symptoms, etc. That's his right, but as you say, it is my right to seek other opinions.

Interestingly, the folks who gave the most direct response to my original question, tended to do so through PMs. When you are desperate enough to start considering "alternative medicine", talking to people who have been through it is helpful. I have no illusions that this is a "miracle cure" or anything.....I am just to the point where "lesser of evils" is worth considering. That's why I am specifically asking about a bedtime treatment - I have no interest in walking around stoned during the day.

Then I stand corrected. I was under the impression that you told him what you wanted and he said no. As I told you via PM, I'm sorry you're experiencing pain and I hope you find some relief. If medical marijuana turns out to be the answer, terrific. I do think, however, that a physician should be the one to suggest it after thoroughly reviewing your medical history, rather than doctor shopping for a physician to give you what you think you want.

 

[Denny Crane]

Unless someone's selling you oregono (SIC) instead of pot, there's no victim in this "crime."

I think it's great that Brian lives his life as he does, and have great respect for it. People who smoke pot? Why should I care?

 

[oldmangrouch]

Then I stand corrected. I was under the impression that you told him what you wanted and he said no. As I told you via PM, I'm sorry you're experiencing pain and I hope you find some relief. If medical marijuana turns out to be the answer, terrific. I do think, however, that a physician should be the one to suggest it after thoroughly reviewing your medical history, rather than doctor shopping for a physician to give you what you think you want.

Agreed. I don't want someone who passes out pot like candy, anymore than I want someone who hands out pain pills like candy.

 

[maxiep]

Agreed. I don't want someone who passes out pot like candy, anymore than I want someone who hands out pain pills like candy.

It's seriously Dr. Nick territory here in Denver in regards to medical marijuana, and its become an insult to anyone who suffers from cancer or has REAL pain.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

It's seriously Dr. Nick territory here in Denver in regards to medical marijuana, and its become an insult to anyone who suffers from cancer or has REAL pain.

marijuana has more uses than just pain relief

 

[Klinky]

It's why prescription medication is tightly controlled. It takes real expertise to understand what's best for the patient.

Finding a doctor who has "real expertise" for a chronic condition is extremely difficult. Chronic pain, Lyme Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Inflammatory Bowel Diseases, Gastroparesis, Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Depression & many other illnesses are all handled extremely differently from doctor to doctor, often with poor results.

None of those illnesses have cures & the pharmaceutical options are there to treat the symptoms, many times with side effects that range from mild to severe.

It is also very hard to get a doctor on board with the fact that you have a chronic illness because they can be hard to detect and usually they are diagnosed after doctors have failed to find other things wrong with you. This leads to a doctor who either understands what's going on & digs deeper(most don't have the time or inclination) or more likely, thinks you're a faker hypochondriac and will literally put their hands up and say there's nothing more they can do because you're fine and maybe you need some antidepressants or to see a psychiatrist.

You absolutely cannot take a single doctor's word at face value, would we take John Canzano's words at face value? Is he truly the expert of all Blazer knowledge? Would we not seek a second opinion if his differed from our assessment? There is nothing wrong with seeking a second, third or even a ninth opinion. If you are still experiencing symptoms & your doctor is unwilling to help further, then it's absolutely time to find another doctor. Sometimes people who have real diseases have to wait years before they are properly diagnosed and actually start receiving treatment.

It's probably one of those situations where you have to experience it to believe it.

 

[MickZagger]

I know with my j-pouch using marijuana slows down my digestive time rapidly. Does wonders. Plus I just enjoy being high.

 

[Klinky]

It's why prescription medication is tightly controlled. It takes real expertise to understand what's best for the patient.

Finding a doctor who has "real expertise" for a chronic condition is extremely difficult. Chronic pain, Lyme Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Inflammatory Bowel Diseases, Gastroparesis, Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Depression & many other illnesses are all handled extremely differently from doctor to doctor many times with poor results.

None of those illnesses have cures & the pharmaceutical options are there to treat the symptoms, many times with side effects that range from mild to severe.

It is also very hard to get a doctor on board with the fact that you have a chronic illness because they can be hard to detect and usually they are diagnosed after doctors have failed to find other things wrong with you. This leads to a doctor who either understands what's going on & digs deeper(most don't have the time or inclination) or more likely, thinks you're a faker hypochondriac and will literally put their hands up and say there's nothing more they can do because you're fine and maybe you need some antidepressants or to see a psychiatrist.

You absolutely cannot take a single doctor's word at face value, would we take John Canzano's words at face value? Is he truly the expert of all Blazer knowledge? Would we not seek a second opinion if his differed from our assessment? There is nothing wrong with seeking a second, third or even a ninth opinion. If you are still experiencing symptoms & your doctor is unwilling to help further, then it's absolutely time to find another doctor. Sometimes people who have real diseases have to wait years before they are properly diagnosed and actually start receiving treatment.

It's probably one of those situations where you have to experience it to believe it.

 

[barfo]

Oh get over it. I love how the people say 'illegal activity' like it actually means something. In most states getting caught with a little pot is equivelant to jay-walking or not wearing a seatbelt. I've been caught with a small amount of pot before and the officer just threw it away.

Or, at least, he told you he was throwing it away. Maybe he went home and smoked it.

barfo

 

[3RA1N1AC]

the post so nice he posted twice! repped

 

[maxiep]

Finding a doctor who has "real expertise" for a chronic condition is extremely difficult. Chronic pain, Lyme Disease, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Inflammatory Bowel Diseases, Gastroparesis, Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Depression & many other illnesses are all handled extremely differently from doctor to doctor, often with poor results.

None of those illnesses have cures & the pharmaceutical options are there to treat the symptoms, many times with side effects that range from mild to severe.

It is also very hard to get a doctor on board with the fact that you have a chronic illness because they can be hard to detect and usually they are diagnosed after doctors have failed to find other things wrong with you. This leads to a doctor who either understands what's going on & digs deeper(most don't have the time or inclination) or more likely, thinks you're a faker hypochondriac and will literally put their hands up and say there's nothing more they can do because you're fine and maybe you need some antidepressants or to see a psychiatrist.

You absolutely cannot take a single doctor's word at face value, would we take John Canzano's words at face value? Is he truly the expert of all Blazer knowledge? Would we not seek a second opinion if his differed from our assessment? There is nothing wrong with seeking a second, third or even a ninth opinion. If you are still experiencing symptoms & your doctor is unwilling to help further, then it's absolutely time to find another doctor. Sometimes people who have real diseases have to wait years before they are properly diagnosed and actually start receiving treatment.

It's probably one of those situations where you have to experience it to believe it.

Can you point me to where I said only go to one doctor? In fact, I said the exact opposite.

Jesus, why don't I just let whoever wishes to disagree with me write my posts. It would save me time since people are going to read whatever they want regardless what I write.

 

[Rodolfo]

Or, at least, he told you he was throwing it away. Maybe he went home and smoked it.

barfo

We can only hope he did...

 

[MysteryMan]

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[The Sebastian Express]

Do any of you users in here do so for anxiety? I have heard wonderful things about marijuana helping with people with high-anxiety issues, and as someone who has such a problem, it is.. exhausting and trying on the soul. I used to take an anti-anxiety medication, but my anxiety causes me to have well, anxiety about the side effects of such medicines since they are so untested (in terms of long-term side effects over years since we just haven't had the time to see them).

So I was curious as to how helpful anyone has found it in the matter of anxiety.

 

[RR7]

Do any of you users in here do so for anxiety? I have heard wonderful things about marijuana helping with people with high-anxiety issues, and as someone who has such a problem, it is.. exhausting and trying on the soul. I used to take an anti-anxiety medication, but my anxiety causes me to have well, anxiety about the side effects of such medicines since they are so untested (in terms of long-term side effects over years since we just haven't had the time to see them).

So I was curious as to how helpful anyone has found it in the matter of anxiety.

First, you had better consult 19 different physicians and try everything and anything they recommend, otherwise maxie's going to jump all over you.

To answer your question, my stress and anxiety have gone up noticeably to me since I quit. So kind of an answer in the reverse, I suppose.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

First, you had better consult 19 different physicians and try everything and anything they recommend, otherwise maxie's going to jump all over you.

To answer your question, my stress and anxiety have gone up noticeably to me since I quit. So kind of an answer in the reverse, I suppose.

Thank you.

 

[barfo]

Do any of you users in here do so for anxiety? I have heard wonderful things about marijuana helping with people with high-anxiety issues, and as someone who has such a problem, it is.. exhausting and trying on the soul. I used to take an anti-anxiety medication, but my anxiety causes me to have well, anxiety about the side effects of such medicines since they are so untested (in terms of long-term side effects over years since we just haven't had the time to see them).

So I was curious as to how helpful anyone has found it in the matter of anxiety.

Maybe it would depend on whether your anxiety has a paranoia element to it?

barfo

 

[Klinky]

Can you point me to where I said only go to one doctor? In fact, I said the exact opposite.

No, you stated he was self-diagnosing himself because he wanted to find a doctor who was open to using marijuana...

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Maybe it would depend on whether your anxiety has a paranoia element to it?

barfo

This is true.

 

[maxiep]

First, you had better consult 19 different physicians and try everything and anything they recommend, otherwise maxie's going to jump all over you.

Butthurt much?

 

[Haakzilla]

Do any of you users in here do so for anxiety? I have heard wonderful things about marijuana helping with people with high-anxiety issues, and as someone who has such a problem, it is.. exhausting and trying on the soul. I used to take an anti-anxiety medication, but my anxiety causes me to have well, anxiety about the side effects of such medicines since they are so untested (in terms of long-term side effects over years since we just haven't had the time to see them).

So I was curious as to how helpful anyone has found it in the matter of anxiety.

PM me...I have extensive first-hand knowledge and experience with this topic.

On a side note, I am formulating the correct response to the naysayer(s) in the room...

 

[Colonel Ronan]

Do any of you users in here do so for anxiety? I have heard wonderful things about marijuana helping with people with high-anxiety issues, and as someone who has such a problem, it is.. exhausting and trying on the soul. I used to take an anti-anxiety medication, but my anxiety causes me to have well, anxiety about the side effects of such medicines since they are so untested (in terms of long-term side effects over years since we just haven't had the time to see them).

So I was curious as to how helpful anyone has found it in the matter of anxiety.

I do not have a problem with anxiety but sometimes when I smoke I have awful panic attacks. That is the main reason why I quit; marijuana doesn't compliment my personality.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

I do not have a problem with anxiety but sometimes when I smoke I have awful panic attacks. That is the main reason why I quit; marijuana doesn't compliment my personality.

this can be a problem with some people, but i have a few friends who self medicate for anxiety issues, its kinda hit and miss for this i would say.

 

[Colonel Ronan]

this can be a problem with some people, but i have a few friends who self medicate for anxiety issues, its kinda hit and miss for this i would say.

I think mine boils down to social anxiety. I get those panic attacks when I'm smoking with people I don't know or I'm not fond of.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Hmmm, thank you both.