Meeting between Dame and Cronin today

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On ESPN today they mentioned on Friday it becomes more difficult to make trades especially superstars with big salaries? Is that when new CBA kicks in?
 
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Dame is gone by this time next week... even as early as middle of this week.
 
hopefully either front office tell dame lillard they have commited to the full rebuild or dame lillard says to the front office that hes requesting the trade

you have golden opportunity for the full rebuild with two potential all-stars in scoot henderson & shaedon sharpe who are 19 & 20 respectively, which means you can tank for a few years to add more talent with high picks and therefore make our future extremely bright and theres no way you should pass on that opportunity... we all love dame lillard, but theres no real possibility to contend and franchise should always come first
 
blazerkor said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Dame is gone by this time next week... even as early as middle of this week.
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Still not sure if he can't be traded until 7/9.

There's some discrepancy about what kind of contract he signed, but it still seems like he can't be traded until the 9th.
 
"Our direction for the franchise? You show up, play good basketball, listen to Chauncey, and cash your checks."

I'm glad Cronin has so much patience to hold the hand of the guy because, man, the dude gets a lot of TLC for having won 22 career playoff games and being owed like a quarter of a billion bucks.
 
blazerkor said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Dame is gone by this time next week... even as early as middle of this week.
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I'd be shocked. There's no way it happens that fast. Trade deadline? Sure it may happen. Next week, not a chance.
 
Cugel said:
Not likely.
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why not, its not like news that dame lillard has requested trade can hurt his value, cause teams will know regardless (either trail blazers will call other teams or other teams will call trail blazers and just the fact that they would be willing to negotiate, tells that he is available, simple as that... and it would be good for chris haynes to break the news, hes close with dame lillard and he would do him solid)
 
Ed O said:
"Our direction for the franchise? You show up, play good basketball, listen to Chauncey, and cash your checks."

I'm glad Cronin has so much patience to hold the hand of the guy because, man, the dude gets a lot of TLC for having won 22 career playoff games and being owed like a quarter of a billion bucks.
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And had a very real, very serious petition by a fan who then backpedaled.
 
Strenuus said:
He's done it for every summer for 8 years.
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The guy said what he wanted. He was very clear.

The Blazers did what he said he didn't want.

He said he'd have a separate conversation with the team if that happened. It seems like he is now having that conversation. Will he ask to be traded ? I don't know. But Dame strikes me as the kind of guy who says what he means and means what he says. So if he comes out and says that he doesn't have an appetite for another 19 year old rookie, and that a youth movement is not his path.... that would lend itself to him asking out.
 
Ed O said:
"Our direction for the franchise? You show up, play good basketball, listen to Chauncey, and cash your checks."

I'm glad Cronin has so much patience to hold the hand of the guy because, man, the dude gets a lot of TLC for having won 22 career playoff games and being owed like a quarter of a billion bucks.
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I think the framing from Haynes makes it a bit more ominious than this is. Our moves this Saturday will be entirely dependent on if Dame continues to be here or not. As a precursor to the opening of FA, knowing if he's in is essential.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If Dame has made up his mind, which is very possible, he will probably just want to be done with it. I can't imagine he wants to put up with a summer of being asked if he wants out.
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It's also what would be prudent for both Dame and the team from a competitive standpoint. Dame's new team has the context for how they approach free agency and the same for us. I actually think that waiting and drawing this out would be incredibly foolish for our team. More time doing shit to try and please Dame if he ultimately wants out could result in lost opportunities for our youth rebuild.
 
blazerkor said:
It's also what would be prudent for both Dame and the team from a competitive standpoint. Dame's new team has the context for how they approach free agency and the same for us. I actually think that waiting and drawing this out would be incredibly foolish for our team. More time doing shit to try and please Dame if he ultimately wants out could result in lost opportunities for our youth rebuild.
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Yup. If a divorce is the way to go, it's better to do it now for all parties involved.
 
I think this has 2 realistic endings -- I will say I think the 2nd option is the most likely but who knows after the Blazers lied to him but again that is the picture that is easy to believe when the truth might not be as black and white.

1) He tells the Blazers he wants out now and we get a trade in the next 2 to 3 weeks prolly to Net's or Heat

2) The Blazers and Dame agree to see how this plays out for the rest of the summer in terms of free agency , trades etc and revisit the situation. Then at the deadline when the offers also might get better after things shake out more then if he wants out maybe more trade partners and better offers.
 
illmatic99 said:
I think the framing from Haynes makes it a bit more ominious than this is. Our moves this Saturday will be entirely dependent on if Dame continues to be here or not. As a precursor to the opening of FA, knowing if he's in is essential.
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I hear you. As a practical matter, of course we need to get Dame to buy in to whatever the team wants to do (even if it's "nothing").

On paper, though, I don't think having the best player on the team telling the GM to "try harder or else" is helpful.
 
Natebishop3 said:
The guy said what he wanted. He was very clear.

The Blazers did what he said he didn't want.
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you're been saying that for weeks.

I'm curious though, if Dame comes out and says he wants to stay in Portland, which is still possible, are you going to call him a liar? Or will you allow that he might have changed his mind?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Still not sure if he can't be traded until 7/9.

There's some discrepancy about what kind of contract he signed, but it still seems like he can't be traded until the 9th.
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Even if that 7/9 date is correct the teams could come to an agreement that is expected to be finalized on 7/9. It would be reported as agree to in principle with the expectation it is finalized on x date. The Kevin Love for Wiggins swap had this happen where it was basically reported in the media as done but they had to wait the 30 days for the rookie contract restriction to be lifted and get finalized.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
I think this has 2 realistic endings -- I will say I think the 2nd option is the most likely but who knows after the Blazers lied to him but again that is the picture that is easy to believe when the truth might not be as black and white.

1) He tells the Blazers he wants out now and we get a trade in the next 2 to 3 weeks prolly to Net's or Heat

2) The Blazers and Dame agree to see how this plays out for the rest of the summer in terms of free agency , trades etc and revisit the situation. Then at the deadline when the offers also might get better after things shake out more then if he wants out maybe more trade partners and better offers.
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The second scenario concerns me because I'm going to be annoyed if we dump some assets to try to make Dame happy and then at the end of the summer he decides, "nah I'm out."
 
sean highkin thinks hes smarter than he is

motherfucker really believes having dame lillard is better than embracing the full rebuild while you have two potential all-stars on the roster + opportunity to add more talent with high picks

full rebuild means youre aiming to win the chip in the future, keeping dame lillard means youre happy being in a purgatory (which is not bad, being a playoff team is good, not everyone can contend and you could be charlotte hornets, minnesota timberwolves or sacramento kings from the past and usually you would keep dame lillard, but not now, god has blessed us with scoot & sharpe, which means were already in a great position for a rebuild)
 
Ed O said:
I hear you. As a practical matter, of course we need to get Dame to buy in to whatever the team wants to do (even if it's "nothing").

On paper, though, I don't think having the best player on the team telling the GM to "try harder or else" is helpful.
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Agreed. I've grown weary of hearing his constant waffling. Pick a lane. I don't think he realizes how much he's shitting on his Portland fans these past few summers.
 
wizenheimer said:
you're been saying that for weeks.

I'm curious though, if Dame comes out and says he wants to stay in Portland, which is still possible, are you going to call him a liar? Or will you allow that he might have changed his mind?
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He isn't a liar. He said they'd have a separate conversation. It seems like that's what is happening. Where did I say in any of those weeks of posts that he would definitely demand a trade? I said that he would, probably for the first time, explore the idea of leaving Portland. That appears to be the case but I guess we'll see.
 
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