Memphis "Wont Be Bullied"/ Harris available???

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Would the Grizzlies draft Rubio with the No. 2 overall pick?

Absolutely. The Grizzlies sent a message to Portland and the rest of the league this season with how they handled the Darius Miles situation. Say what you want about owner Michael Heisley but he won't be bullied. Any direct snub or perceived threat by Rubio or his camp will compel the Griz to take him and maintain leverage.
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Are there any potential trades scenarios that have gone underreported?

Sure. The New Jersey Nets are said to be willing to part with point guard Devin Harris. The Griz should ponder if Harris is worth the second pick.
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Im surprised that the Nets would even think about this much less that they are interested for Rubio.

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http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2009/jun/18/more-questions-than-answers/?partner=RSS
 
Hell, I'd send Outlaw, Blake, Sergio, Webster, Bayless, Batum and/or Przybilla and our 24th pick if it got us Harris.

-Pop
 
Fuck Michael Heisley.

Fuck Chris Wallace.

I hope they do select Rubio and get fucked over as a result.
 
Devin Harris available? Oh please... get him!! And to think we could've had Harris/Bass for Jack, Frye, Outlaw and picks before. Get Harris at all costs outside the big 3, and KP will be a genius.
 
The whole Harris thing has to be a rumor, right???? NJ cant be that stupid can they? An all star for unproven talent?
 
Oh fuck. Now we get a whole summer of people clamoring for Harris again.

A group of whom were opposed to trading Outlaw for him 2 years ago.
 
RR7 said:
Oh fuck. Now we get a whole summer of people clamoring for Harris again.

A group of whom were opposed to trading Outlaw for him 2 years ago.
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Sorry, RR7 but I couldnt help but to post the link. :dunno: Its just too juicy. BTW I really dont believe it. NJ cant be that stupid.
 
No worries BB. My annoyance comes more from seeing the same thing over and over with some fans. No way we trade Outlaw for Harris. Harris is unproven, etc. Trade gets made for Harris, and Harris blows up, and everyone complains about msising out on the deal, possibly, and how great Harris woudl be and what not.
No way I'd trade Outlaw for Conley. He's a bust, hasn't shown anything, rode Oden's coat tails, etc. Conley has a good second half last year, and now more and more pro-Conley posts come out.
Seems some have an inability to evaluate a prospect or talent, instead looking strictly at numbers. Well, Harris hasn't produced, so he probably won't. Oh wait, he's good. Conley hasn't produced, so he is a bust, oh wait, he looked good. As if the only way some would make a trade is to buy high, but while still thinking of the potential buy low price.
 
Harris for LMA is probably a fair deal from a talent for talent perspective, but I'd sure look for other ways to prise Harris loose other ways before I'd pull the trigger on that.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Wow, you really under estimate Aldridge and over estimate Harris.

Harris is good, but not even close to Aldridge good.
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and the mismatches that Aldridge adds, while still only scratching the surface of his potential is downright scary. Harris is nice, but doesnt really offer a mismatch.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
Good point. But I still have a lot of faith in Oden. This is one area I expect to see improvement from.
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I agree that Oden will improve.. but Lee wont pull that 2nd defender away from Oden, like Aldridge would. LMA is a PERFECT compliment to Oden IMO. But liek Nik said, from a talent for talent perspective it makes most sense, but Aldridge means a hell of a lot more to us, and what we're trying to do.
 
BrianWheeler said:
I agree that Oden will improve.. but Lee wont pull that 2nd defender away from Oden, like Aldridge would. LMA is a PERFECT compliment to Oden IMO. But liek Nik said, from a talent for talent perspective it makes most sense, but Aldridge means a hell of a lot more to us, and what we're trying to do.
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I'm going to get shit for this. Channing Frye is not a terrible player. Certainly he's not the stats we see from last season. I still think, given the right circumstances, he could become a starter. Not the level that Aldridge will be (All Star). Channing was a good soldier last season. Given the minutes I think he'd prove to make the most of the opportunity and surprise us. Ok, Ed O, I'm ready to take your beat down. ;)

And this would be the worst-case scenario. Pritchard is a magician. Maybe he could pull another rabbit out of his hat (of the Josh Smith or Kevin Love variety).

I want Harris!
 
Mediocre Man said:
Wow, you really under estimate Aldridge and over estimate Harris.

Harris is good, but not even close to Aldridge good.
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I don't think so. Aldridge is and will be All Star talent. Same with Devin Harris. I think you're undervaluing Harris.
 
Crimson the Cat said:
I'm going to get shit for this. Channing Frye is not a terrible player. Certainly he's not the stats we see from last season. I still think, given the right circumstances, he could become a starter. Not the level that Aldridge will be (All Star). Channing was a good soldier last season. Given the minutes I think he'd prove to make the most of the opportunity and surprise us. Ok, Ed O, I'm ready to take your beat down. ;)
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If Frye hits his jumper consistently, he's an asset to his team in spite of his utter lack of defense and rebounding and ability to get to the free throw line.

This past season, as I think we all know, he was TERRIBLE. The thing is that two years before, his last at NY, he was nearly as bad, and he played over twice as many minutes!

I think that blaming his piss-poor production on a dearth of minutes doesn't make sense, given his history with the Knicks being essentially duplicated with the Blazers (except worse production both years in Portland).

Ed O.
 
You don't trade big for small or how the ol' adage goes. Devin Harris is a great player but I wouldn't even consider trading Aldridge for him.
 
yuyuza1 said:
Fuck Michael Heisley.

Fuck Chris Wallace.

I hope they do select Rubio and get fucked over as a result.
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Heheh! Exactly.

If they draft Rubio, I hope he pulls a Sabonis and stays in Europe for another 10 years.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Wow, you really under estimate Aldridge and over estimate Harris.

Harris is good, but not even close to Aldridge good.
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Harris is a better player right now. He had a superior PER last year and is, IMO, a superior defensive player. He gets to the line a ton and puts a lot of pressure on the defense on a consistent basis. He also plays a position of scarcity... there are simply more PFs at Aldridge's level than there are PGs at Harris's.

With this being said, I'm not sure that I trade LA for Harris. Aldridge is a couple of years younger and the "never trade big for small" maxim rings loudly in my head.

It's a tough call. If Portland could line up a plus starter at the power forward (David Lee, I guess, would be the minimum I'd want to replace Aldridge with), I could see the logic of trading Aldridge to get Harris... although I'm not sure that NJ would be interested.

Ed O.
 
Boise Blazer said:
The whole Harris thing has to be a rumor, right???? NJ cant be that stupid can they? An all star for unproven talent?
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You are asking this about the team that traded Richard Jefferson for Yi?:cheers:
 
rubio could be the whole steve francis thing all over again.

yeah, go ahead and pick a guy who's said he doesn't want to get drafted by you and see how that turns out.
 
Ed O said:
Harris is a better player right now. He had a superior PER last year and is, IMO, a superior defensive player. He gets to the line a ton and puts a lot of pressure on the defense on a consistent basis. He also plays a position of scarcity... there are simply more PFs at Aldridge's level than there are PGs at Harris's.

With this being said, I'm not sure that I trade LA for Harris. Aldridge is a couple of years younger and the "never trade big for small" maxim rings loudly in my head.

It's a tough call. If Portland could line up a plus starter at the power forward (David Lee, I guess, would be the minimum I'd want to replace Aldridge with), I could see the logic of trading Aldridge to get Harris... although I'm not sure that NJ would be interested.

Ed O.
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Well if we want to get more technical, Harris had an RR of 3.9 while Aldridge had one of 7.2. Also as a perimeter player you can only do so much as a defender. And let's face it, Harris still wasn't stopping dribble penetration from guards like Parker, Rondo, Paul, or Deron Williams, but really who can? As a big man Aldridge can have a much bigger impact on defense.
 
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hasoos said:
You are asking this about the team that traded Richard Jefferson for Yi?:cheers:
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Fair enough. Point taken.

I guess I still have it stuck in my head what a "hard bargain" Rod Thorn supposedly drives.
 
hasoos said:
You are asking this about the team that traded Richard Jefferson for Yi?:cheers:
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I understood it to be more of a cost cutting move, to open up space for Lebron, at least I think I remember it being talked about like that.
 
Well, I'm sure Pritchard will explore this with New Jersey, if Harris is really available. I'm not sure a deal that is reasonable for both sides can be struck, but if Pritchard can get Harris without giving up any of Roy/Oden/Aldridge, it will be a masterful consolidation trade.

I'd give up all of Batum, Rudy and Bayless for Harris, though if there was any way to hold onto Batum (by adding other, non-Roy/Oden/Aldridge assets), that would be amazing.
 
I wouldn't trade LMA for Harris but I would like to have him. Harris is a lot better then Rubio and the Nets would be crazy to trade Harris for the #2 pick to get Rubio. I really don't believe this rumor or there is more to it then being reported.

Also Harris is not a better player then LMA right now. If the Nets are looking to trade Harris they would jump all over a trade of LMA for Harris IMO. If we really want to trade LMA which I wouldn't even think about we can get better then Harris for him.
 
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