Merged: Crabbe Traded to Brk

[Nikolokolus]

Wolves are turning into an empire?

Lord almighty...

Winter is coming.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Teletovic better than Barkley or the Bosnian hype ends with Nurk?

it doesnt end with Nurk, theres new big thing coming out of Bosnia & Herzegovina
I can see him being TOP 10 pick on the next draft

https://www.facebook.com/MusaDzanan/

 

[SlyPokerDog]

it doesnt end with Nurk, theres new big thing coming out of Bosnia & Herzegovina
I can see him being TOP 10 pick on the next draft

https://www.facebook.com/MusaDzanan/

With those glasses he would fit perfectly in the city of Portland.

 

[Minstrel]

With those glasses he would fit perfectly in the city of Portland.

Um, ACTUALLY, Portland doesn't suffer from astigmatism any more than the national average.

You're welcome.

 

[Mr. Robot]

Dzanan didnt played a alot so far for Cedevita, but when he turned 18 couple months ago, he signed his first professional contract, so now hes gonna play a lot more and I expect his talent to flourish this year

 

[dviss1]

I didnt see any use of brain by declaring Nurk better than Hakeem. Unless we mean right now.

You really didn't think that he was serious did you?

 

[Mr. Robot]

You really didn't think that he was serious did you?

 

[GDiama]

You really didn't think that he was serious did you?

Talking about someone that is almost Nurlic's stalker (ok exaggeration ) posting photos from theaters etc. Not sure what to believe. We have read that Crabbe will average 20/6/4 in this forum so its dificult to say who is being sarcastic and who isnt.

Dzanan didnt played a alot so far for Cedevita, but when he turned 18 couple months ago, he signed his first professional contract, so now hes gonna play a lot more and I expect his talent to flourish this year

Musa seems like a talented guy, I remember him making some good plays against Olympiacos in Euroleague,but that was last year. Also i remember some fight with Teletovic.

 

[BonesJones]

But AC is a laid back west coast brother if there ever was one. I'm sure he's pumped to start and put up numbers, but I know he would have rather done it out here. Very cool dude, gonna miss him.

How is he gonna score at a higher rate? Russell passes the ball less than Lillard and that's the only way Crabbe can score.

 

[GDiama]

How is he gonna score at a higher rate? Russell passes the ball less than Lillard and that's the only way Crabbe can score.

The flow of Brks offense is pretty good. They are not a high quality team but there is some rules they follow in their game and Crabbe will still get many wide open shots. They also play in very high pace.

 

[BigGameDamian]

It only means it time for someone younger to step up and replace Crabbe or Olshey not done.

I hope it's somebody not younger we really don't need any more younger players on this team. We need vets and good veterans.

 

[dviss1]

The flow of Brks offense is pretty good. They are not a high quality team but there is some rules they follow in their game and Crabbe will still get many wide open shots. They also play in very high pace.

Not when he's scouted and has no space because he isn't playing with anybody.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

The flow of Brks offense is pretty good. They are not a high quality team but there is some rules they follow in their game and Crabbe will still get many wide open shots. They also play in very high pace.

But now that they've basically handed their franchise to Russell, who's to say if this remains true.

 

[Boob-No-More]

But now that they've basically handed their franchise to Russell, who's to say if this remains true.

So, who starts in BRK, Lin and Russell or Russell and Crabbe?

I think they see Russell and Crabbe as their back court of the future, but Lin is currently their best PG and probably their best player. At early 29, he doesn't fit their rebuilding timeline. So, they might trade him, but as of now, he's still on their roster.

BNM

 

[Minstrel]

So, who starts in BRK, Lin and Russell or Russell and Crabbe?

I think they see Russell and Crabbe as their back court of the future, but Lin is currently their best PG and probably their best player. At early 29, he doesn't fit their rebuilding timeline. So, they might trade him, but as of now, he's still on their roster.

Adding to the complication, Russell has been best when playing off-guard rather than point guard. So if they want to maximize him as a combo guard, they'd be best off playing Lin at point guard. Perhaps they'll start Crabbe at small forward. He profiles best as a reserve, but it's unlikely they won't start him at his salary unless he forces their hand.

 

[Reep]

They should probably start Russell and Crabbe and take their lumps (and build up draft picks), but they probably won't.

Crabbe and Russell both have DRTG >110, so teams are really going to lick their chops if they play them together.

 

[BonesJones]

So, who starts in BRK, Lin and Russell or Russell and Crabbe?

I think they see Russell and Crabbe as their back court of the future, but Lin is currently their best PG and probably their best player. At early 29, he doesn't fit their rebuilding timeline. So, they might trade him, but as of now, he's still on their roster.

BNM

Makes me wonder why we couldn't get Lin back. They have a logjam there, and Lin could've replaced Crabbe. BKN wanted to get rid of Nicholson's contract, but Lin's expiring contract would've been great, and worth giving up filler (Layman, Connaughton, future 2nds).

 

[Boob-No-More]

Adding to the complication, Russell has been best when playing off-guard rather than point guard. So if they want to maximize him as a combo guard, they'd be best off playing Lin at point guard. Perhaps they'll start Crabbe at small forward. He profiles best as a reserve, but it's unlikely they won't start him at his salary unless he forces their hand.

I agree. I think their best guard rotation is Lin/Russell starting with Crabbe coming off the bench. But, I can't imagine their plan is to pay Crabbe all that money to continue to be a 10 ppg scorer off the bench.

I suppose they could start Crabbe at SF, but they already have three other guys (DeMarre Carroll, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and Caris LaVert) at that position that are better suited to guarding other starting SFs.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

They should probably start Russell and Crabbe and take their lumps (and build up draft picks), but they probably won't.

Crabbe and Russell both have DRTG >110, so teams are really going to lick their chops if they play them together.

They should probably try to win since they don't have their pick..

Any combination of Russell, Crabbe, and Lin will be bad defensively. However, they do have a solid defensive frontcourt with Carroll, Booker, and Mozgov.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Wow--looking at Brooklyn's roster, they really have no frontcourt. Mosgov, Allen (rookie), Booker...and that's it. Unless they make some more moves, they're going to be playing ultra-small-ball. Perhaps they're planning on playing Carroll at the 4 too, but aside from those 4, they have nobody else on the roster above 6'7". That's small for a college team, let alone a pro squad.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Makes me wonder why we couldn't get Lin back. They have a logjam there, and Lin could've replaced Crabbe. BKN wanted to get rid of Nicholson's contract, but Lin's expiring contract would've been great, and worth giving up filler (Layman, Connaughton, future 2nds).

Can we trade them back the TPE for Lin? He makes $12 million. So, that works.

I doubt if he's Neil's first choice. If he was, we could have just done Crabbe for Nicholson + Lin. But, maybe if the other possible options (Danny Green, Eric Gordon, Courtney Lee, Jared Dudley, etc. ) fall through, maybe Lin could be a back up plan for using the TPE.

BNM

 

[dviss1]

So, who starts in BRK, Lin and Russell or Russell and Crabbe?

I think they see Russell and Crabbe as their back court of the future, but Lin is currently their best PG and probably their best player. At early 29, he doesn't fit their rebuilding timeline. So, they might trade him, but as of now, he's still on their roster.

BNM

If Crabbe doesn't start I'm gonna crack the fuck up.

 

[Reep]

They should probably try to win since they don't have their pick..

Any combination of Russell, Crabbe, and Lin will be bad defensively. However, they do have a solid defensive frontcourt with Carroll, Booker, and Mozgov.

Good point. I'm not sure I understand the Crabbe piece for them. It really seems unclear what they are trying to do. It looks like they are racing toward mediocrity in the East as fast as they can.

 

[chzbrgr]

Wow--looking at Brooklyn's roster, they really have no frontcourt. Mosgov, Allen (rookie), Booker...and that's it. Unless they make some more moves, they're going to be playing ultra-small-ball. Perhaps they're planning on playing Carroll at the 4 too, but aside from those 4, they have nobody else on the roster above 6'7". That's small for a college team, let alone a pro squad.

On their forum they expect to play carroll almost exclusively at the 4 which IMO is crazy talk

 

[Boob-No-More]

Wow--looking at Brooklyn's roster, they really have no frontcourt. Mosgov, Allen (rookie), Booker...and that's it. Unless they make some more moves, they're going to be playing ultra-small-ball. Perhaps they're planning on playing Carroll at the 4 too, but aside from those 4, they have nobody else on the roster above 6'7". That's small for a college team, let alone a pro squad.

Yep, it's weird that almost their entire roster is made up of guys between 6'5" and 6'8". The have the SG and SF spots covered, but really only have one true center (Mozgov) and one true PG (Lin).

Somebody commented yesterday that Sean Marks has done a good job rebuilding that roster without the benefit of their own lottery picks. Well, he has assembled some talent, but it's highly redundant and ridiculously susceptible to injury at the 1 and 5 spots. He clearly has a lot more work to do to balance out that roster.

BNM

 

[chzbrgr]

Good point. I'm not sure I understand the Crabbe piece for them. It really seems unclear what they are trying to do. It looks like they are racing toward mediocrity in the East as fast as they can.

At least then the picks they send to Boston will be #10 instead of #1

 

[chzbrgr]

If Crabbe doesn't start I'm gonna crack the fuck up.

I honestly dont think he will. Itll be Lin, RHJ and Dlo

 

[BonesJones]

Can we trade them back the TPE for Lin? He makes $12 million. So, that works.

I doubt if he's Neil's first choice. If he was, we could have just done Crabbe for Nicholson + Lin. But, maybe if the other possible options (Danny Green, Eric Gordon, Courtney Lee, Jared Dudley, etc. ) fall through, maybe Lin could be a back up plan for using the TPE.

BNM

It would make sense for sure. They need bigs, as Booker is their only PF and Mozgov and Allen are their only Cs.

We have a surplus of bigs and need a guard to replace Crabbe. They have a surplus of guards and need bigs. Makes a ton of sense.

So I'd trade out Davis and a future 2nd and use the TPE to take back Lin.

We'd save apx. $10M this year, and $16M the next when it's all said and done. Lin has the same defensive problems as Crabbe but he'd probably be a better option of the bench. Davis gets to play in a contract year which is better for him then not getting minutes here.

If we can use split the TPE I'd try to use the Davis and Lin trade to retain an apx. $6M TPE, then I'd try to work something out for O'Quinn.

 

[Boob-No-More]

On their forum they expect to play carroll almost exclusively at the 4 which IMO is crazy talk

They could REALLY use a guy like Meyers Leonard to help balance that roster. I don't even give a shit what they give us back (I'm cool with another TPE).

Somebody needs to send Sean Marks a link to this video:



He's actually posting up Thad Young and calling for the ball in that video - and doing something good with it once he gets it.

And maybe this one as a more recent example of Meyers Leonard's dominance:



Fuck, why do we only see THAT Meyers once a year? What a fucking tease!!!

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

It would make sense for sure. They need bigs, as Booker is their only PF and Mozgov and Allen are their only Cs.

We have a surplus of bigs and need a guard to replace Crabbe. They have a surplus of guards and need bigs. Makes a ton of sense.

So I'd trade out Davis and a future 2nd and use the TPE to take back Lin.

We'd save apx. $10M this year, and $16M the next when it's all said and done. Lin has the same defensive problems as Crabbe but he'd probably be a better option of the bench. Davis gets to play in a contract year which is better for him then not getting minutes here.

If we can use split the TPE I'd try to use the Davis and Lin trade to retain an apx. $6M TPE, then I'd try to work something out for O'Quinn.

I'd gladly swap Davis for O'Quinn. I'd be fine with Lin, but would rather add a 3 and D wing (Danny Green or Courtney Lee) as a Crabbe replacement.

BNM