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Blazers Roy said:
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Would you do it? Would they do it??

The point of this trade is to replace Turner's monstrous contract for a contract that will expire 1 year sooner (Shump) and a guy you can easily trade later even though he might fit well in Stotts' system.
The Knicks get rid of contracts and gain young players for their rebuild, Cavs are trying to satisfy Lebron by getting him what he wants (a big who can shoot from the outside instead of old Frye and another ballhandler\wing defender).
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O'Quinn to us bro. O'Quinn to us.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Ya well I don't want to trade Turner. I might be in the minority but I want to keep Evan Turner. I think he's a good veteran and can be a difference maker on the right team.
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Gross, you think a player on this team is untouchable.

See, I can exaggerate like the computer too!
 
chzbrgr said:
In our guys defense who else could you credibly count on to put the ball in the hoop?
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Well, right back at you...

Jeremy Lin played for BRK. He had exactly one quality teammate to pass the ball to.

And come on now, Lillard and McCollum had Allen Crabbe, 2nd best 3-point shooter in the league to pass to!

BNM
 
Destroyer of Worlds said:
Jeremy Lin 30 games

Jeremy Lin 24 mpg

Just sayin
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Fair enough, but it was actually 36 games and Lin averaged 1.5 more assists per game in 24 minutes than C.J. did in 35 minutes and only 0.8 fewer assists than Dame did in 36 minutes.

Lin is actually somewhere down around 8th or 10th on my list of targets for using our TPE. So, he's like my Plan H, if A through G fall through. I was just pointing out that calling him a black hole isn't really accurate.

BNM
 
honkicracker said:
Portland doesn't immediately get cap relief.
Turner & LBJ shouldn't be asked to play together.
NYK is trading o'quinn for trash. Regardless if they believe him to be trash as well. Why would they trade trash for trash?

Literally no incentive for any team involved to make this trade.
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Sigh...

Knicks are in rebuilding mode, they don't need to pay Lee all that money for 3 years. They get younger players, they make room for future Free Agents.

Lebron wants another ballhandler, you think it's stupid, but he doesn't and he holds the Cavs hostage until next summer.

Portland gets 10 Million off in 2 years and has a chance to trade Lee for an expiring contract if\when there's an opportunity.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Ya well I don't want to trade Turner. I might be in the minority but I want to keep Evan Turner. I think he's a good veteran and can be a difference maker on the right team.
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Boob-No-More said:
Well, right back at you...

Jeremy Lin played for BRK. He had exactly one quality teammate to pass the ball to.

And come on now, Lillard and McCollum had Allen Crabbe, 2nd best 3-point shooter in the league to pass to!

BNM
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by percentage only, and those two are score first mentality players with nothing else around them is my point. Lin is a score first player too, I think, definitely most effective with the ball in his hands creating offense, but when it comes to complimentary players I would take Trevor Booker and Brook Lopez over anyone we had before Nurk (RHJ is gunna be a decent roll player in the league too). I think it's a credit to Dame and Cj that we have done as well as we have, they are special players and with some nice complimentary players around them could win 55+ games a season. We did not have that the last two years (still dont really). Plumlee is the only one who was really worth anything outside of harkless, and as much as I like those guys they are nothin to write home about.
 
Blazers Roy said:
Sigh...

Knicks are in rebuilding mode, they don't need to pay Lee all that money for 3 years. They get younger players, they make room for future Free Agents.

Lebron wants another ballhandler, you think it's stupid, but he doesn't and he holds the Cavs hostage until next summer.

Portland gets 10 Million off in 2 years and has a chance to trade Lee for an expiring contract if\when there's an opportunity.
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Rofl.... So you say Turner is an albatross contract, and want cap relief.
Except you came up with a scenario where Portland takes back MORE salary.
Regardless if you think it's easier to trade or not.
There are people who disagree with you on thinking Turner's contract is the albatross you so desperately want others to believe.
If you can't accept that.. Then not sure what to tell you.
I can accept that people believe Turner's contract to be untrade-able. Just like I could accept that people believed Crabbe's contract is untrade-able
Hope crabbe has a great year playing for Port... omg the Brooklyn?

Turner and LBJ occupy the same space on the floor.
They are the same player, except LBJ is a MUCH better player across the board and it's not close.
If you really think LBJ means by another ball handler a lesser version of him otherwise he'll hold the Cavs hostage. Then LOL @ you.
Drose, Turner, LBJ... Splash brothers aint got nothing on these 3.

The Knicks are in rebuilding mode, but giving up a quality 3 and d player like Lee is nonsense if they don't get anything in return. He still has a couple years left on his contract... His value isn't going to change much unless he has a career ending injury.
In your scenario they would give up a young player + quality 3 and d player for D-league trash and cap space. Oh right cap space... Such an incentive for Free agents... Who was the last big name star free agent to sign with the Knicks? Amare Stoudemire.

Again, none of the 3 teams in your trade would accept it...
I tried to go with a short answer, when you so subtly mocked me for not providing arguments.
Now I return the favor.. with the mocking.. I however an not being subtle.
 
BonesJones said:
Black hole??? Last year he averaged 21ppg and 7.5apg per 36 minutes on a healthy 56.6 TS% while playing for a trash Brooklyn team.
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Boob-No-More said:
Jeremy Lin 2016-17 FGA/100 possessions = 21.5
Damian Lillard 2016-17 FGA/100 possessions = 27.4
C.J. McCollum 2016-17 FGA/100 possessions = 25.6

Jeremy Lin 2016-17 AST% = 35.5
Damian Lillard 2016-17 AST% = 28.7
C.J. McCollum 2016-17 AST% = 18.0

Just sayin'....

BNM
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Like I said, he can accumulate stats. His teammates suffer when he's on the floor. Houston was a significantly worse team against us in the playoffs because of him. Lin scores and gets a modest number of assists, simply because the ball is in his hands at all times, but the offense becomes easy to hold in check.

Lin on the Blazers would be less popular than Crawford.
 
handiman said:
Like I said, he can accumulate stats. His teammates suffer when he's on the floor. Houston was a significantly worse team against us in the playoffs because of him. Lin scores and gets a modest number of assists, simply because the ball is in his hands at all times, but the offense becomes easy to hold in check.

Lin on the Blazers would be less popular than Crawford.
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Well, BRK was 2.8 points per 48 better last season when he was on the court than when he wasn't.

Maybe the problem in HOU was his coach and their system...

The guy would be a back up PG, not a starter for us. Like I said, he's like 10th on my TPE wish list. I'm not losing any sleep over it one way, or the other.

BNM
 
chzbrgr said:
by percentage only, and those two are score first mentality players with nothing else around them is my point. Lin is a score first player too, I think, definitely most effective with the ball in his hands creating offense, but when it comes to complimentary players I would take Trevor Booker and Brook Lopez over anyone we had before Nurk (RHJ is gunna be a decent roll player in the league too). I think it's a credit to Dame and Cj that we have done as well as we have, they are special players and with some nice complimentary players around them could win 55+ games a season. We did not have that the last two years (still dont really). Plumlee is the only one who was really worth anything outside of harkless, and as much as I like those guys they are nothin to write home about.
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Hint: I was being sarcastic about Crabbe. I'm not exactly known as a Crabbe fanboi around here...

BNM
 
Mr. Robot said:
Im Portland Trail Blazers fan first, but when Nurk joined the team, I looked for fan sites so I could see what the fans think of him etc, and I found this forum, so I decided to register

as I said when I joined the forum, our love for the national sports teams and its athletes is second to none, something unbelievable, so we ofc follow them when theyre playing, we like to see what fans od those teams think of them, and we like to see what theyre doing on social media, but the reason why Im posting Nurk pictures, tweets etc, is so you POR fans would know that, interested or not, I dont know, but given the responses, you like it

I watched like 90% of Teletovic and Nurk games in the NBA, and the earliest time their teams start playing is 1:00 AM, and the leatest is 4:30 AM, so our country stays up watching those guys play

either were crazy, or fucked up, or just love them, whatever, no difference really, but were the best people in the world
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Just my two cents- I really like the Nurk posts that you do. Keep them up!
 
chzbrgr said:
am I the only one who likes ET and wants him to stay? Asking for a friend.
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Destroyer of Worlds said:
He better stay. Too much versatility. I'd be unhappy if we traded him. Don't really care about Moe, Meyers, Davis, Crabbe...

But Turner?

That's a mistake
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Same here. I think he will really come through this season. He knows the plays now. He's not injured. Just an added plus- his quotes are hilarious. Our media has really been screwing the pooch, by not quoting him more....
 
BigGameDamian said:
I didn't say untouchable. I said I think Evan Turner is a good veteran and that's what we need!
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You missed my jab at you. Keep up. We say the same things and regardless of intent you always say "oh, so they are untouchable".

Self-awareness is key, my friend.
 
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