Merged: Crabbe Traded to Brk

[SIeepwalker]

Saying matching was bad because Crabbe didn't pan out is results-based thinking, and results-based thinking is bad

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Saying matching was bad because Crabbe didn't pan out is results-based thinking, and results-based thinking is bad

Only a Sith deals in absolutes (he says, absolutely...)

 

[Sinobas]

The GOAT was on Oprah said it best. 'Young NBA players are paid off potential instead of production.'

No one has to like it, but it's a general fact.

Except that young players are on a rookie scale contract. How many players take their game to another level after their rookie contract expires?

 

[H.C.]

Except that young players are on a rookie scale contract. How many players take their game to another level after their rookie contract expires?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/allen-crabbe-signs-offer-sheet-with-nets.302566/

Huh... I voted "No" too. Go figure.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I appreciate that, but I don't necessarily agree with your logic. I don't think people should only be limited to criticizing moves with which they disagreed at the time. I'm not a GM. I don't have the information available to me that he has. I don't have the experience he has. So his decision making is naturally going to be held to a higher standard than mine. For example, Neil and I were comparably in favor of the Afflalo deal, which we all know didn't really turn out all that well for us. IMO, I can acknowledge how wrong I was about it while simultaneously calling it a failure on Olshey's part.

That's called "Results-Oriented Thinking" and it's considered really, really bad. If Allen Iverson takes a 30-footer with 18 seconds on the shot clock, and makes the shot, is it a good shot? No. If one misses a layup, does that make it a bad shot? No. Same thing applies to moves made by GMs, businessmen, layers, ballplayers,...

 

[Minstrel]

That's called "Results-Oriented Thinking" and it's considered really, really bad. If Allen Iverson takes a 30-footer with 18 seconds on the shot clock, and makes the shot, is it a good shot? No. If one misses a layup, does that make it a bad shot? No. Same thing applies to moves made by GMs, businessmen, layers, ballplayers,...

It's a combination. On any given deal, you can't be results-oriented, because luck (good or bad) has too large an impact on any single deal. But when it comes to evaluating a GM's overall record, the results are what count. That is also true for businessmen, athletes, poker players, etc. When Olshey's run with Portland ends, his process won't matter a bit when it comes to evaluating his overall body of work--the results are what will matter.

On an individual deal (or shot), I'll focus on process. On a career (or a run of significant length), I'll focus on results.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

It's a combination. On any given deal, you can't be results-oriented, because luck (good or bad) has too large an impact on any single deal. But when it comes to evaluating a GM's overall record, the results are what count. That is also true for businessmen, athletes, poker players, etc. When Olshey's run with Portland ends, his process won't matter a bit when it comes to evaluating his overall body of work--the results are what will matter.

On an individual deal (or shot), I'll focus on process. On a career (or a run of significant length), I'll focus on results.

Absolutely. However, that's not what several on this forum are doing they're applying Results-Oriented thinking to individual deals, presumably because they don't want to acknowledge his obvious fantastic deals.

 

[Minstrel]

Absolutely. However, that's not what several on this forum are doing they're applying Results-Oriented thinking to individual deals, presumably because they don't want to acknowledge his obvious fantastic deals.

Yeah, that tends to happen a lot, both on deals that worked out surprisingly well and ones that worked on surprisingly poorly. I think, in this thread, though, that a lot of people would argue that the process was poor too. That Olshey overpaid on the faulty assumption that Crabbe was a rising player (the advanced numbers don't really bear out that he was significantly improving overall) and that his contract would look better as the cap rose. I personally didn't like the process and the results aren't too surprising to me.

 

[Chris Craig]

I voted yes. I should have voted no. I made a mistake. Ok guys, chastise me.

 

[HailBlazers]

I voted yes. I should have voted no. I made a mistake. Ok guys, chastise me.

I voted No, from now on my opinion is more valid than yours.