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Re: Frye is good.
Ever hear of a system player? That's Channing Frye. I don't know how well he succeeds anywhere else. However, Phoenix's coaching staff has transformed in to a hell of a good shooter, considering he only made like, 20 threes in his career coming in to this season.
Ever hear of a system player? That's Channing Frye. I don't know how well he succeeds anywhere else. However, Phoenix's coaching staff has transformed in to a hell of a good shooter, considering he only made like, 20 threes in his career coming in to this season.
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Re: Frye is good.
Yeah, he played great for us. And he's exactly what we need...a 3 point shooting big man...because we don't already have a big that likes to shoot from the outside...
Yeah, he played great for us. And he's exactly what we need...a 3 point shooting big man...because we don't already have a big that likes to shoot from the outside...
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Re: Frye is good.
The Spurs agree with me. In fact, they're currently annoyed that a bad player is having an extremely unusual good performance at their expense.
What else should we have the Spurs decide for us?
The Spurs agree with me. In fact, they're currently annoyed that a bad player is having an extremely unusual good performance at their expense.
What else should we have the Spurs decide for us?
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Re: Frye is good.
This goes to show how shitty Nate's system is. First Von Wafter kills it, and now Channing Frye.
This goes to show how shitty Nate's system is. First Von Wafter kills it, and now Channing Frye.
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Von Wafer didn't play in the NBA this year, Frye is a gimmick "center" that's been horrible in the playoffs. Hmmmmmm.
Von Wafer didn't play in the NBA this year, Frye is a gimmick "center" that's been horrible in the playoffs. Hmmmmmm.
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Re: Frye is good.
Frye wouldn't produce like he has under any other system. What other team has taken role players and made them stars year after year? Phoenix. Or Steve Nash, however you'd like to put it.
If Oden would have been healthy and established himself as a low post scorer, we could have had a similar situation to what the Magic have in Orlando. The way we shot the three ball would have let guys like Frye be useful.
Frye wouldn't produce like he has under any other system. What other team has taken role players and made them stars year after year? Phoenix. Or Steve Nash, however you'd like to put it.
If Oden would have been healthy and established himself as a low post scorer, we could have had a similar situation to what the Magic have in Orlando. The way we shot the three ball would have let guys like Frye be useful.
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Re: Frye is good.
I think he'd play fine in Utah as well ... another system that is designed to get guys wide open looks with good screening and flex cuts. Sloan would hate his defense though.
I think he'd play fine in Utah as well ... another system that is designed to get guys wide open looks with good screening and flex cuts. Sloan would hate his defense though.
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Re: Frye is good.
So what are we doing wrong then if we're a jump-shooting team and Frye sucked for us, but now he's killing it w/Phoenix?
Sounds to me like our system is just not cutting it. If this is as much as we are going to get from our role-players, unless they were in a different system where they would get better, then why aren't we making adjustments to get them better...
This shit just doesn't add up. "oh he sucks, but hes good in that system" ...... I just don't buy it..
So what are we doing wrong then if we're a jump-shooting team and Frye sucked for us, but now he's killing it w/Phoenix?
Sounds to me like our system is just not cutting it. If this is as much as we are going to get from our role-players, unless they were in a different system where they would get better, then why aren't we making adjustments to get them better...
This shit just doesn't add up. "oh he sucks, but hes good in that system" ...... I just don't buy it..
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Re: Frye is good.
Didn't you predict that WE would sweep as well?
I'm happy for Channing -- his move to Phoenix was a good one for all parties, as far as I can tell.
Didn't you predict that WE would sweep as well?
I'm happy for Channing -- his move to Phoenix was a good one for all parties, as far as I can tell.
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He's not killing it. He has a 10.6 PER in this year's playoffs. That's poor reserve quality.
He's not killing it. He has a 10.6 PER in this year's playoffs. That's poor reserve quality.
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Re: Frye is good.
Who cares what his PER is. He's dropping three's on the Spurs, and he contributed to a game 5 win over us to basically secure a 2nd round appearance, not to mention just helped secure game 2 win over the Spurs tonight.
So I ask again, what have our role-players done, and what are we doing wrong with them in our system where they need to go to another team to succeed?
Who cares what his PER is. He's dropping three's on the Spurs, and he contributed to a game 5 win over us to basically secure a 2nd round appearance, not to mention just helped secure game 2 win over the Spurs tonight.
So I ask again, what have our role-players done, and what are we doing wrong with them in our system where they need to go to another team to succeed?
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Well, it shows he's not succeeding. If "having a good game once every so often while mostly being terrible" is your definition of success, every player in the NBA is succeeding.
Yay!
Well, it shows he's not succeeding. If "having a good game once every so often while mostly being terrible" is your definition of success, every player in the NBA is succeeding.
Yay!
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Coming in to the night he was shooting below 30% from 3 for the playoffs. Hmmmm.
You don't win championships with players like Frye getting big minutes. Doesn't happen, and won't.
Coming in to the night he was shooting below 30% from 3 for the playoffs. Hmmmm.
You don't win championships with players like Frye getting big minutes. Doesn't happen, and won't.
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Re: Frye is good.
I think you are the exact opposite of MIXUM. Your ridiculous optimism about a player after he has a good game or a team after they win always just ends up backfiring. If LaMarcus has a good game, you will praise him, if he plays bad, you will say how Frye is the better player.
I think you are the exact opposite of MIXUM. Your ridiculous optimism about a player after he has a good game or a team after they win always just ends up backfiring. If LaMarcus has a good game, you will praise him, if he plays bad, you will say how Frye is the better player.
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Phoenix doesn't win in Game 5 against us and Game 2 against the Spurs without Frye. Champs need role players like this. They may miss a bunch of shots but they hit when it matters. He's this year's Robert Horry.
Phoenix doesn't win in Game 5 against us and Game 2 against the Spurs without Frye. Champs need role players like this. They may miss a bunch of shots but they hit when it matters. He's this year's Robert Horry.
