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He's probably got a medical marijuana card because his knees are so screwed!
 
The Griz grew weary of Miles’ waning work ethic and his relationship with rookie guard O.J. Mayo.

There was widespread concern in the organization about Miles’ off-the-court influence on Mayo near the end of the season.

Character might be a major issue for another team interested in Miles, who was suspended last season for violating the NBA's anti-drug program.
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The Grizzlies have it all wrong! Darius is a hard worker and has his head on straight. It was the Portland media who tainted this saint of a man. I demand justice!!! Damn you both, Quick and Canzano!!! :ohno:
 
1. I am very glad Miles is not the Blazers problem, or the Blazers fans' problem.

2. Being caught with marijuana is illegal, but let's keep senses of proportion. It is not armed robbery, rape, assault, murder.

3. I find it ironic, to say the least, that the Grizzlies are now kvetching about Miles work ethic, or lack thereof, and his bad influence on young players. Even a cursory background check would have shown that these are hardly new issues. But it seems they were so intent on trying to screw the Blazers they were willing to risk his bad influence, etc.

4. When the smoke clears, bad pun, the Blazers won 54 games and were in the playoffs with better to come. The Grizzlies were one of the worst teams in the NBA. I'd sure rather have our team, and management.

5. I am glad Miles is not our problem. Just to repeat. And keep repeating. Instead, we get Brandon Roy winning yet another award.
 
crandc said:
1. I am very glad Miles is not the Blazers problem, or the Blazers fans' problem.

2. Being caught with marijuana is illegal, but let's keep senses of proportion. It is not armed robbery, rape, assault, murder.
3. I find it ironic, to say the least, that the Grizzlies are now kvetching about Miles work ethic, or lack thereof, and his bad influence on young players. Even a cursory background check would have shown that these are hardly new issues. But it seems they were so intent on trying to screw the Blazers they were willing to risk his bad influence, etc.

4. When the smoke clears, bad pun, the Blazers won 54 games and were in the playoffs with better to come. The Grizzlies were one of the worst teams in the NBA. I'd sure rather have our team, and management.

5. I am glad Miles is not our problem. Just to repeat. And keep repeating. Instead, we get Brandon Roy winning yet another award.
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In the odd world of the NBA, Miles getting caught with marijuana will likely lead to a suspension of at least a year if this sticks, while sex offenders like Ruben Patterson and assault perps like Charles Barkley were allowed to continue playing sans suspension.
 
PapaG, my recollection is that Patterson was in fact suspended. But I bet that drug use gets a longer one. Chris Andersen was out for a year, I think Patterson missed 5 or 10 games.

As you say, assbackwards, pardon my French.

Once again, isn't it so much nicer to have a Brandon Roy as the face of the franchise?
 
I'd be surprised to hear anyone in the Grizzlies' front office go on record mentioning anything negative about Darius Miles, his work ethic, and his influence on younger players. Wouldn't that be tantamount to admission of lying about their reasons for signing him, open them to accusations of tampering, and establish grounds for the Blazers to initiate some sort of action to appeal his impact on our cap?
 
BlazerWookee said:
I'd be surprised to hear anyone in the Grizzlies' front office go on record mentioning anything negative about Darius Miles, his work ethic, and his influence on younger players. Wouldn't that be tantamount to admission of lying about their reasons for signing him, open them to accusations of tampering, and establish grounds for the Blazers to initiate some sort of action to appeal his impact on our cap?
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then your prediction of saying the cap hold WOULD come off, would come true huh.. can it be Wookee? man I wouldnt mind you being right on that one lol.
 
BlazerWookee said:
I'd be surprised to hear anyone in the Grizzlies' front office go on record mentioning anything negative about Darius Miles, his work ethic, and his influence on younger players. Wouldn't that be tantamount to admission of lying about their reasons for signing him
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Why would it be tantamount to an admission of lying? They signed him thinking he'd help the team, but he didn't. Failed signing. I don't see how it implies that they lied about why they signed him.

I'm not arguing that they did or did not lie, just that them saying critical things about him now wouldn't show that they were lying.
 
Minstrel said:
Why would it be tantamount to an admission of lying? They signed him thinking he'd help the team, but he didn't. Failed signing. I don't see how it implies that they lied about why they signed him.

I'm not arguing that they did or did not lie, just that them saying critical things about him now wouldn't show that they were lying.
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Let me see if I can make this sound coherent. They signed him to what, two ten-day contracts, then a guaranteed contract through the rest of the season, right? When they signed him to that last contract, they were talking him up like he was completely reformed, working hard, a good locker room guy, etc.

When I read this phrase:
The Griz grew weary of Miles’ waning work ethic and his relationship with rookie guard O.J. Mayo.

There was widespread concern in the organization about Miles’ off-the-court influence on Mayo near the end of the season.
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For such concern to be "widespread" in the organization, I believe it had to start small and grow over time. If Grizzly front-office types come out and admit that they concluded that he is a knucklehead "near the end of the season," it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to infer that his trend towards knuckleheaddom in their eyes began before the guaranteed contract was signed, maybe even before the second ten-day contract was offered. Once you reach that point, doesn't that give the Blazers some ammunition with which to begin/continue/revisit the appeals process?
 
BlazerWookee said:
Let me see if I can make this sound coherent. They signed him to what, two ten-day contracts, then a guaranteed contract through the rest of the season, right? When they signed him to that last contract, they were talking him up like he was completely reformed, working hard, a good locker room guy, etc.

When I read this phrase:


For such concern to be "widespread" in the organization, I believe it had to start small and grow over time. If Grizzly front-office types come out and admit that they concluded that he is a knucklehead "near the end of the season," it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to infer that his trend towards knuckleheaddom in their eyes began before the guaranteed contract was signed, maybe even before the second ten-day contract was offered. Once you reach that point, doesn't that give the Blazers some ammunition with which to begin/continue/revisit the appeals process?
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It seems unlikely to me, because there's no solid evidence of what they were thinking. They can always claim that Miles was very well-behaved during his two ten-game contracts, so they gave him a guaranteed contract. Once he got the guaranteed contract, he began losing motivation and stopped behaving professionally.

Basically, they can say whatever they want about what they were thinking when they signed him...unless there's a proverbial "smoking gun" (like a verified inter-office memo stating that they just wanted to screw Portland or somesuch), I don't think Portland can prove anything regarding Memphis' motivation.
 
Minstrel said:
It seems unlikely to me, because there's no solid evidence of what they were thinking. They can always claim that Miles was very well-behaved during his two ten-game contracts, so they gave him a guaranteed contract. Once he got the guaranteed contract, he began losing motivation and stopped behaving professionally.

Basically, they can say whatever they want about what they were thinking when they signed him...unless there's a proverbial "smoking gun" (like a verified inter-office memo stating that they just wanted to screw Portland or somesuch), I don't think Portland can prove anything regarding Memphis' motivation.
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I do believe that it does increase their likelyhood of proving it, from nil to a little more than nil.
 
What I want to know is, was it the green kind bud, or some of that Mexi Brown stuff. Inquiring minds would like to know!:devilwink:
 
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