Merged: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

[james3921]

"The Knicks are among the teams trying to acquire Rudy Fernandez from the Trail Blazers and they have offered forward Wilson Chandler."

A league source told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan that the Bulls and Celtics have each offered Portland a first-round draft pick in exchange for the Spanish swingman.

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi...s_offer_chandler_for_fernandez/#ixzz0x9GzkNtt

 

[XXPrimusXX]

Knicks offer Wilson Chandler for Rudy.

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68774/20100820/knicks_offer_chandler_for_fernandez/

If this is true, I would do it in a hot second.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Even though Rudy is being a little bitch, NY is a good fit for him. And Chandler would be a sweet bargaining chip in another trade for a quality PG.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Funny that he's referred to as a shooting guard in the Sheridan piece. He's a large SF. How efficient is he?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Obviously not good enough since Cho turned that alleged deal down.

We should only trade Rudy for a Chris Paul or Dwight Howard. Geez, it's like you guys have no idea what his true value is

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Comparison of Rudy's vs. Chandler's last season.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Comparison of Rudy's vs. Chandler's last season.

I can't say I'm too enthusiastic. I want an absolute defensive stopper and/or a good-rebounding backup 4. I say package Rudy to Cleveland (plenty of minutes for him there, Byron Scott likes to run) to get Varejao. (Not to sound like a broken record...)

 

[BGrantFan]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Take a 1st round pick for Rudy, which helps thin out the roster at SG/SF, and be done with it. Why take Wilson Chandler when Matthews supposedly can play SF, Batum should get 30+ minutes, and the Blazers used a 1st round pick to take a SF?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I think the Blazers are balking at the "caught with a dozen bags of pot stowed inside his expensive car" part of his resume. Personally I like a little wacky weed once in a while. But for an NBA player to have that much in his car does not bode well for him being too smart.

 

[Mr. J]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I'm actually upset the Knicks even offered Wilson Chandler. Fernandez's value should be somewhat low now: He had a horrible season with averages of 6.8 points and 38% from the field, plus he's developing a reputation for being immature. Chandler, on the other hand, is a bit younger, has had a far better season, and I would argue has more potential than Fernandez. What is Portland expecting in return for him anyway?

 

[Mr. J]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I think the Blazers are balking at the "caught with a dozen bags of pot stowed inside his expensive car" part of his resume. Personally I like a little wacky weed once in a while. But for an NBA player to have that much in his car does not bode well for him being too smart.

I heard an interview with Chandler and he said it was his man's pot. Still irresponsible of him to be around that, but I think the Knicks would have taken more action against him if he was actually smoking it.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Are you kidding me? Make the trade, if it's still on the table. Chandler isn't exactly what we need, but he shoot well, isn't a slouch on defense, and rebounds too. The guy looks attractive on paper. He and Batum share nearly identical height/weight and Chandler averages 5 more points, 2 more boards and 1 more assist per game (he also plays about ten more minutes per game). But, he's got stock!

DO IT CHO!

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Are you kidding me? Make the trade, if it's still on the table. Chandler isn't exactly what we need, but he shoot well, isn't a slouch on defense, and rebounds too. The guy looks attractive on paper. He and Batum share nearly identical height/weight and Chandler averages 5 more points, 2 more boards and 1 more assist per game (he also plays about ten more minutes per game). But, he's got stock!

DO IT CHO!

You obviously haven't watched much of Wilson. His jumpshot is atrocious. It really reminds me of Ruben Patterson's jumper, or lack thereof.

 

[maxiep]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I think Cho and the Blazers know exactly what they want from the deal. I like the fact they aren't going to be pressured by Rudy or his agent.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I think Cho and the Blazers know exactly what they want from the deal. I like the fact they aren't going to be pressured by Rudy or his agent.

I agree!

 

[Eastoff]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I think Cho and the Blazers know exactly what they want from the deal. I like the fact they aren't going to be pressured by Rudy or his agent.

I think this is true, but at a certain point they should atleast get a 1st round pick. I'd rather have a pick than a rudy rotting on the bench.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

You obviously haven't watched much of Wilson. His jumpshot is atrocious. It really reminds me of Ruben Patterson's jumper, or lack thereof.

You obviously know everything there is to know, with great certainty. Chandler's FG % was a respectful 48% last season and his career three point % is above 30%. If you care to compare, Chandler made 10% more of his shots than Fernandez, and given that threes are Fernandez's special of the day - Fernandez, on average, made only 6% more of his threes than Chandler last season. On Dec 7th, against Portland, for example - Chandler shot better than 55% and made 2/2 threes.

But, don't let stats get in the way....

 

[RR7]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

You obviously know everything there is to know, with great certainty. Chandler's FG % was a respectful 48% last season and his career three point % is above 30%. If you care to compare, Chandler made 10% more of his shots than Fernandez, and given that threes are Fernandez's special of the day - Fernandez, on average, made only 6% more of his threes than Chandler last season. On Dec 7th, against Portland, for example - Chandler shot better than 55% and made 2/2 threes.

But, don't let stats get in the way....

A respectful 48% was helped primarily be getting to the basket. Stats are great, if you know how to use them. Assuming someone is a good shooter because they have a good FG% is NOT a good way to use stats. Unless you would argue against someone who said Shaq was a poor shooter, because he has a high FG%.

 

[craigehlo]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

A respectful 48% was helped primarily be getting to the basket.

This team needs players that can get to the hoop badly. I consider it a plus since this roster is stacked with guys scared to drive into the paint (I'm looking at you LMA).

If his ankle is healed, I'd do this trade in a second.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Stats always have value. Always. A blanket statement of "they have a good fg% is NOT a good way to use stats" is misleading. I would agree with you in some scenarios. In this case, a poster was basically saying Chandler has no jumper. This is false and fg% proves it.

If we are dumping Rudy for someone who DOES get to the basket, rebounds and has some inside game - GO CHO.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Stats always have value. Always. A blanket statement of "they have a good fg% is NOT a good way to use stats" is misleading. I would agree with you in some scenarios. In this case, a poster was basically saying Chandler has no jumper. This is false and fg% proves it.

If we are dumping Rudy for someone who DOES get to the basket, rebounds and has some inside game - GO CHO.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09NYK10.HTM
26% from three point range, a piddly 50% effective field goal percentage, 62% of his total shots were jumpers of which he only posted a 39% mark on effective field goald percentage ... he's not a shooter

 

[craigehlo]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

For those that want a nice breakdown of his FG%, you see his shot chart broken into zones at the link below. He's a legit threat from most sports on the floor.

http://www.nba.com/hotspots/

 

[Shooter]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

What's all this talk about a trade? Rudy is going back to Spain.

 

[Blazer_Mullet_Man]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

http://www.82games.com/0910/09NYK10.HTM
26% from three point range, a piddly 50% effective field goal percentage, 62% of his total shots were jumpers of which he only posted a 39% mark on effective field goald percentage ... he's not a shooter

Would anyone claim LA "jumpshot is atrocious"? Because, .021% separates them.

 

[hasoos]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I like Wilson Chandler. I don't give a shit if he smokes weed. Come on people it is well known 60+ percentage of NBA players smoke weed. He just got caught. Hell Rudy smokes weed too. You think his "taking a hit off the joint" gesture after making a 3 pointer last year was because he is a good boy?

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I like Wilson Chandler. I don't give a shit if he smokes weed. Come on people it is well known 60+ percentage of NBA players smoke weed. He just got caught. Hell Rudy smokes weed too. You think his "taking a hit off the joint" gesture after making a 3 pointer last year was because he is a good boy?

I don't want someone stupid enough to get caught. The correlation to pot smoking players and lengthy careers is pretty good, if the talent is there. Look at Kareem and Charles Oakley. Hell, even Cliff Robinson. I have no problem with smoking it if you're (a) talented enough to make an impact at 35, and (b) smart enough not to get caught. Because if you're too stupid to keep it on the down low, you're probably also too stupid to play team basketball well enough to help a team win.

 

[Pinwheel1]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I don't want someone stupid enough to get caught. The correlation to pot smoking players and lengthy careers is pretty good, if the talent is there. Look at Kareem and Charles Oakley. Hell, even Cliff Robinson. I have no problem with smoking it if you're (a) talented enough to make an impact at 35, and (b) smart enough not to get caught. Because if you're too stupid to keep it on the down low, you're probably also too stupid to play team basketball well enough to help a team win.

Yeah this was my take as well. Pot or alcohol...all the same to me. It was the getting caught that raises the eyebrows. It was pretty stupid to have that much in your car. And No I do not believe it was one of his boy's stash.

Having said that.....if he can play, I can over look it. I have seen games where he looked pretty damn good.

 

[OddEnormous]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I heard an interview with Chandler and he said it was his man's pot.

Oh ok then... Jesus

 

[ironcrotch]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

Wilson Chandler has been vindicated!!

Better to just man up to it, shiet.

 

[hasoos]

Re: Rudy For Wilson Chandler?

I don't want someone stupid enough to get caught. The correlation to pot smoking players and lengthy careers is pretty good, if the talent is there. Look at Kareem and Charles Oakley. Hell, even Cliff Robinson. I have no problem with smoking it if you're (a) talented enough to make an impact at 35, and (b) smart enough not to get caught. Because if you're too stupid to keep it on the down low, you're probably also too stupid to play team basketball well enough to help a team win.

Yea Robert Parrish got caught once. He sure sucked... Anybody who smokes weed can get caught if put in the wrong situation. Thats part of the risk. It's not like he was JR Rider smoking out of a pop can when the officer came up.