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From: Chad Ford - ESPN

The NBA trading frenzy that normally seizes teams come February could be arriving a little early this season. Assigned to write a column on who could be traded during this season, I was surprised by the number of teams that seemed "open for business" on the trade front.

Typically, significant trades don't go down in preseason, or the first month of the season. It usually isn't until December, with a month or more of games under everyone's belts, that we start hearing the trade drums. But this year, from the sound of things, the talk may be coming faster and more furiously than in years past..............


10. The Portland Seven

The Blazers head into the next summer with the potential to have major cap space, with seven players hitting the free-agent market. But there's a catch.

First, Darius Miles, with Boston this preseason, could mess up Portland's plan. If he plays in 10 games this season, his $9 million salary goes right back on the Blazers' books.

Second, they are going to have to make some difficult choices about a number of their young players. Martell Webster, Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, Sergio Rodriguez and Travis Outlaw can all become free agents, along with veterans Steve Blake and Raef LaFrentz.

Because of NBA collective bargaining rules, each player is assigned a "cap hold" that serves as a salary placeholder for the summer. Because Webster, Frye and Diogu were all drafted in the lottery, their cap holds are very high -- likely higher than their actual salaries will be in their new contracts. The only way for Portland to get rid of those cap hold numbers is to sign those players to contracts during the free agent period or to not make qualifying offers to them.

If Portland chooses to sign them, not only will those players eat into the cap space, but the team, while working out the new contracts, will lose precious time during the early days of July's free-agent frenzy. If the Blazers choose not to make qualifying offers, those players become unrestricted free agents.

So I expect GM Kevin Pritchard to be very proactive (as always) this winter and to move at least a couple of those young players.
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Chad Ford's: Trade Talk Already Hot and Heavy

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeTalk-081015

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The Portland Seven
The Blazers head into the next summer with the potential to have major cap space, with seven players hitting the free-agent market. But there's a catch.
First, Darius Miles, with Boston this preseason, could mess up Portland's plan. If he plays in 10 games this season, his $9 million salary goes right back on the Blazers' books.

Second, they are going to have to make some difficult choices about a number of their young players. Martell Webster, Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, Sergio Rodriguez and Travis Outlaw can all become free agents, along with veterans Steve Blake and Raef LaFrentz.

Because of NBA collective bargaining rules, each player is assigned a "cap hold" that serves as a salary placeholder for the summer. Because Webster, Frye and Diogu were all drafted in the lottery, their cap holds are very high -- likely higher than their actual salaries will be in their new contracts. The only way for Portland to get rid of those cap hold numbers is to sign those players to contracts during the free agent period or to not make qualifying offers to them.

If Portland chooses to sign them, not only will those players eat into the cap space, but the team, while working out the new contracts, will lose precious time during the early days of July's free-agent frenzy. If the Blazers choose not to make qualifying offers, those players become unrestricted free agents.

So I expect GM Kevin Pritchard to be very proactive (as always) this winter and to move at least a couple of those young players.
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He's got a few things wrong (Blake and Travis are playing on team options) but you have to wonder if KP is already working the phones.
 
Re: The Portland Seven??

That's two PGs, two SFs, two PFs, and Raef. My guess is if KP doesn't make any trades before the deadline, Portland keeps one PG, one SF, and one PF.
 
Re: Chad Ford's: Trade Talk Already Hot and Heavy

Hey, Bogart!! :D
 
Re: Chad Ford's: Trade Talk Already Hot and Heavy

I have feeling KP is working the phones and seeing what is available but will really start working the phone lines after the first couple months of the season and finding out a little more what we will need.
 
Re: Chad Ford's: Trade Talk Already Hot and Heavy

ABM said:
Hey, Bogart!! :D
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you edged me out by a minute ... I should have known you'd be on top of it :wink:

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Re: The Portland Seven??

Man.. Dave on Blazer's Edge had this up months ahead of ESPN about the cap holds and all, big props to him.
I would definitely try to keep Webster, Sergio and Frye around, while explore a trade possibility with Travis. Diogu is easily replaceable, I'm sure the team would like to keep Blake around, and Raef, well.. thanks for the expiring contract.
 
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I hate to say it, but Webster's injury could work out to Portland's advantage from a contractual point of view. If it takes him awhile to come back strong from the foot, it's less likely that there will be a great deal of interest from other teams around the league and he might be more amenable to signing a short term deal for "reasonable" terms, in fact I wouldn't be surprised to see him go for a 2 or 3 year deal for something around 4-5 million per year.

As for the rest, Blake has a team option and is super cheap at 4 million per year, Travis is also playing on a TO contract, Ike seems pretty expendable and could probably be renounced, Frye sounds like he wants to stay in Portland long term so is probably willing to sign quickly, and it remains to be seen what happens with Sergio.

I still think we see Raef moved in a trade this season for the player that KP wants vs. waiting until the Summer when contracts get trickier.
 
Re: The Portland Seven??

Nikolokolus said:
I still think we see Raef moved in a trade this season for the player that KP wants vs. waiting until the Summer when contracts get trickier.
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Something tells me that it might not even be for a great player and everyone will groan - but then they will notice that KP also got a couple of draft picks for down the line and he will have some additional great picks in years to come...

Sort of like the fact that he got Rudy in the Zach trade and we are going to enjoy that many years down the line.
 
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yeah i have trust in kp to make all this nonsense into one reality.

the blazers dominating the league for years!
 
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I think it is safe to say if we are looking to dump salary it will be Frye/Ike + a another RFA or if we want to make our splash at the deadline and not in the FA market, Raef and our 1st would be the main building blocks.
 
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He didn't mention Raef and the value of his contract.
 
Trade Rumors: The Portland 7

As part of Chad Fords Trade talk collum he basically mentions that anyone but the big 3 is trade fodder come Jan/Feb. I thought we were going to keep Martell but with his injury and more pt being opened up for other players your guess is as good as mine.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeTalk-081015
The Portland Seven
The Blazers head into the next summer with the potential to have major cap space, with seven players hitting the free-agent market. But there's a catch.

First, Darius Miles, with Boston this preseason, could mess up Portland's plan. If he plays in 10 games this season, his $9 million salary goes right back on the Blazers' books.

Second, they are going to have to make some difficult choices about a number of their young players. Martell Webster, Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, Sergio Rodriguez and Travis Outlaw can all become free agents, along with veterans Steve Blake and Raef LaFrentz.

Because of NBA collective bargaining rules, each player is assigned a "cap hold" that serves as a salary placeholder for the summer. Because Webster, Frye and Diogu were all drafted in the lottery, their cap holds are very high -- likely higher than their actual salaries will be in their new contracts. The only way for Portland to get rid of those cap hold numbers is to sign those players to contracts during the free agent period or to not make qualifying offers to them.

If Portland chooses to sign them, not only will those players eat into the cap space, but the team, while working out the new contracts, will lose precious time during the early days of July's free-agent frenzy. If the Blazers choose not to make qualifying offers, those players become unrestricted free agents.

So I expect GM Kevin Pritchard to be very proactive (as always) this winter and to move at least a couple of those young players.
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Re: Trade Rumors: The Portland 7

I haven't looked into the possible matching salaries that would be available until right now [some are realistic and some are far-fetched to say the least], but I would like to see LaFrentz and Outlaw packaged together for a veteran SF and/or something along those lines...

1. Granger + Murphy + Daniels = http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...2200~2760~1013&teams=11~11~22~22~22&te=&cash=

2. Jefferson + Jones = http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...454~2015~1006~406&teams=15~15~22~22&te=&cash=

3. Dunleavy + Daniels = http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...54~2015~2200~1708&teams=11~11~22~22&te=&cash=

4. Wallyworld + Pavlovic = http://games.espn.go.com/nba/featur...s=454~2015~2172~831&teams=5~5~22~22&te=&cash=

5. Marion = http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=454~2015~510&teams=14~14~22&te=&cash=
 
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Re: Trade Rumors: The Portland 7

I like the idea of trading for Marion since it would let us test drive him for some of the season before having to extend his contract next summer. He's easily the best fit in terms of offense/defense and veteran savvy this team needs.
 
Re: Trade Rumors: The Portland 7

craigehlo said:
I like the idea of trading for Marion since it would let us test drive him for some of the season before having to extend his contract next summer. He's easily the best fit in terms of offense/defense and veteran savvy this team needs.
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...do you really think Marion would be a better fit than Granger and/or Jefferson though???
 
Re: Trade Rumors: The Portland 7

I don't think we'd be able to aquire Granger as they are trying to build around him and i dont like Jefferson as a player on this team. Mike Dudlevy may be a possiblility but Id like a better defender at the 3 than him.
 
Granger is the new Devin Harris..it just isn't going to happen.
I'll even go as far as saying Kobe Bryant will be a Blazer via free agency before we land Harris or Granger.
 
I wonder if KP ever mentioned Granger when we traded with them during the draft for Bayless. I would've thrown in Travis and someone else to have that one work. Tough...
 
alex42083 said:
I wonder if KP ever mentioned Granger when we traded with them during the draft for Bayless. I would've thrown in Travis and someone else to have that one work. Tough...
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Why would they have done that?
 
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