Merged: Would you support this move?

[Fez Hammersticks]

-- Sign David Lee to a long-term deal. $50m/5 years.

-- Package LaMarcus Aldridge for a top-tier PG in the mold of a Devin Harris/Deron Williams/ect.


I really hate the idea of packaging LaMarcus but if we can land a Deron Williams (caliber) from a cash strapped team, or a team on the verge of rebuilding, we have to pounce on that opportunity. We all know how hard it is trying to obtain a good/great PG. We haven't had one since - Rod Strickland and Terry Porter?

David Lee is a stud. Flat out. He averaged a double/double before the SSOL offense. He's too good not to start. That is why It makes absolutely no sense to bring him on board with LaMarcus already here. So, if we can solve our PG problem using LaMarcus and signing David Lee, that's a perfect storm.

 

[Wheels]

Re: Would you support this move?

Harris is not on the same level as the top PG's IMO.. he is a stud no doubt, but not LaMarcus Stud worthy.

 

[B-Roy]

Re: Would you support this move?

100% opposed.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Re: Would you support this move?

Head says yes, but heart says no.

I don't like the idea of trading Lamarcus, but any chain of events that would net us a serious upgrade in one spot without seriously downgrading another would have to be considered. I think my biggest problem with this would be that I perceive Lee's scoring as being primarily "garbage points" (offensive rebounds, loose balls, etc.), which is how I see Oden for the next couple years as well. Aldridge, however, has offensive game which justifies plays being run for him. In my mind, our PF/C combo should have one of each. Absent major improvement in Oden's offensive game, I think I'd have to stick with LMA over Lee.

 

[Ed O]

Re: Would you support this move?

IF we could get a Devin Harris/Deron Williams after signing Lee, I would support trading LA.

It would hurt, but it would make the team better and that's all that matters to me.

Ed O.

 

[bbc23]

Re: Would you support this move?

Harris is not on the same level as the top PG's IMO.. he is a stud no doubt, but not LaMarcus Stud worthy.

and LA is a stud?

 

[Wheels]

Re: Would you support this move?

IMO Aldridge's perimeter game compliments Oden PERFECT.. I like Lee but his game will not compliment Oden.

 

[Wheels]

Re: Would you support this move?

and LA is a stud?

With the matchup problems he causes.. yes. on both ends of the floor and for multiple positions, I have seen 1-5 postions. Harris causes a matchup problem for one position, MAYBE two.

 

[Tince]

Re: Would you support this move?

Deron, yes. Harris, no.

Those two are on different levels.

 

[BTOWN_HUSTLA]

Re: Would you support this move?

Devin Harris- no
Deron Williams- yes

 

[Wheels]

Re: Would you support this move?

Deron, yes. Harris, no.

Those two are on different levels.

Agree on that one about levels. Williams is in that upper tier above Harris.

 

[Minstrel]

Re: Would you support this move?

I'd do that, though I'd rather sign Millsap than Lee. But even if Lee were the one signed, I'd do it.

And I'd deal Aldridge, in that scenario, for any of Chris Paul/Deron Williams/Rajon Rondo/Devin Harris. Paul is obvious, but adding Rondo to the mix.

 

[B-Roy]

Re: Would you support this move?

Harris is not better than Aldridge by any means.

 

[Ed O]

Re: Would you support this move?

Harris is not better than Aldridge by any means.

The question to me is not just who's better (although I think that Harris is better right now than LA), but which is better:

PG: Harris
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Lee
C: Odom

or

PG: Andre Miller
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Aldridge
C: Odom

I think the former lineup is, both in the near term and long term.

Ed O.

 

[LameR]

Re: Would you support this move?

The question to me is not just who's better (although I think that Harris is better right now than LA), but which is better:

PG: Harris
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Lee
C: Odom

or

PG: Andre Miller
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Aldridge
C: Odom

I think the former lineup is, both in the near term and long term.

Ed O.

Serious Ed? Odom?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Would you support this move?

Ed pulled a Mike Rice. I don't think Mike will ever be able to separate Oden and Odom.

In my orig. post I would consider Devin Harris a last option of the top-tiers using LaMarcus.

If we called New Orleans, who's organization is a sinking ship; operating in the red, will be in another city within 5 years, and offered LaMarcus Aldridge/Rudy Fernandez/Jerryd bayless/1st round picks, I think we'd have at least a shot.

Same goes for Utah. Their finances are unstable with their owner dying, and of course the economic climate has a lot to do with their money trouble.

With Boozer staying put, they could lose Milsap to another team willing to offer him $9m-10m/per. When Okur/Boozer's contracts end this team will be in full rebuild. With the packaged mentioned above, we'd at least have a shot at Deron.

 

[mgb]

Re: Would you support this move?

Serious Ed? Odom?

Has to be a typo. He must have meant Oden.

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Re: Would you support this move?

IMO Aldridge's perimeter game compliments Oden PERFECT.. I like Lee but his game will not compliment Oden.

...but Oden does NOT HAVE a game!

Perhaps in two to three years he will.

Only offense is a two-handed jam - when he gets the ball. His defense isn't much better = FOUL.


Not an Oden hater! But he should be brought off the bench for 1/2 of the games. Start him when the opposing team has a nobody at the post - let him work on his moves and gain confidence. Then, in two years, we might have our stud.

Drain his confidence by starting against Yao, Shaq, etc. and he's gonna crawl into a huge hole and never come out of it.

Point is - you don't worry (today) who compliments Oden. Instead, we build the balance of a team that Oden can one day compliment.

 

[LameR]

Re: Would you support this move?

Has to be a typo. He must have meant Oden.

I know I know...Still a bit surprising. Come on Ed! Step your game up!

 

[BengalDuck]

Re: Would you support this move?

100% opposed.

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[rocketeer]

Re: Would you support this move?

lee is a better rebounder than aldridge, but aldridge is a far superior defender as well as having an offensive game that is a great compliment to roy/oden(while lee doesn't).

i'd do it for deron(or paul) because he's easily the 2nd best pg in the league and it would just be something too good to pass up(though i'd prefer throwing a lot of money at odom or millsap to play the pf spot than lee).

i'd consider it for the next tier of pg(parker/billups/rose/harris level) but probably wouldn't end up doing it if the pf being signed was david lee.

no chance would i do it for a rondo/jameer nelson/mo williams level player.

 

[Ed O]

Re: Would you support this move?

I know I know...Still a bit surprising. Come on Ed! Step your game up!

Yes. I've had an odd weekend... and had spilled both a cup of orange juice AND water withing 10 minutes of typing that. Weird.

It was a typo and then a copy and paste and then I didn't catch it.

Oops!

Ed O.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Re: Would you support this move?

100% opposed.

You think better of it than I do. I'm 150% opposed.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: Would you support this move?

Never with Lee. Lee is ridiculously overrated. He gets rebounds and scores a little in a running game but is simply overpowered most of the time and is not a defender at all. Conversely, Aldridge is a much more varied and talented scorer and a FAR better defender, and is vital to the team. The only way I MIGHT consider this is if instead of Lee we signed Odom, who is far better than Lee. But then only if LaMarcus was traded for Chris Paul, Deron Williams or possibly Rajon Rondo. I do not rate Harris very highly.

 

[RickyRubio]

Re: Would you support this move?

Stop with your stupid trade ideas man. You post a different, ridiculous idea every day.

This is one of the worst.

 

[Masbee]

Re: Would you support this move?

-- Sign David Lee to a long-term deal. $50m/5 years.

-- Package LaMarcus Aldridge for a top-tier PG in the mold of a Devin Harris/Deron Williams/ect.


I really hate the idea of packaging LaMarcus but if we can land a Deron Williams (caliber) from a cash strapped team, or a team on the verge of rebuilding, we have to pounce on that opportunity. We all know how hard it is trying to obtain a good/great PG. We haven't had one since - Rod Strickland and Terry Porter?

David Lee is a stud. Flat out. He averaged a double/double before the SSOL offense. He's too good not to start. That is why It makes absolutely no sense to bring him on board with LaMarcus already here. So, if we can solve our PG problem using LaMarcus and signing David Lee, that's a perfect storm.

As others have said:

Your lumping in Devin Harris with Deron Williams is a mistake.

LaMarcus for Chris Paul or Deron Williams - Yes.

For Devin Harris - No.

And, we can't trade LaMarcus right now anyway. Extension time. Doesn't work.

 

[LittleAlex]

Re: Would you support this move?

No, you don't trade a big for a small unless there is a huge disparity in ability. The difference in ability between Harris and LA isn't that big (if it exists at all) so this would be a terrible trade.

I can assure you that if Portland made such and offer New Jersey wouldn't hesitate to make this deal. They can always run Rafer at PG.

 

[Masbee]

Re: Would you support this move?

The question to me is not just who's better (although I think that Harris is better right now than LA), but which is better:

PG: Harris
SG: Roy
SF: Batum
PF: Lee
C: Odom

Yuck.

The spacing for that team would be poor.

Harris - can't shoot the long ball
Roy is a slasher
Batum is a low volume spot up shooter for now.
Lee is not a shooter, he is a slasher/garbage player
Oden is glued to the paint.

The shooting of LaMarcus is an underappreciated component of the Blazer's current offense.

Sorry, but I hate that lineup.

I do not think it is an improvement over what we would have by keeping LaMarcus and using our cap space on some other player that improves the top 8 or 9 players on the team.

 

[Tortimer]

Re: Would you support this move?

No way keep LMA.

 

[hasoos]

Re: Would you support this move?

You don't lose your head over one off season and make a bonehead move like this.