Politics MEULLER GRILLED

[Hoopguru]

Regardless of Trump, the Russians interfered with our election. They implemented a cyber attack against us. The helped to obtain and release emails to hurt a presidential candidate. This is nothing to joke about. It is a serious and disturbing matter. To wave it off like it's nothing is not only irresponsible but it advocates for further attacks.

I agree 100%...but I was also bothered when Obama was caught on a hot mic stating " he will be able to do more once his term is over"
Many politicians are beholden to someone or some Companies interest.

 

[MarAzul]

If you fail

then you'll continue

by your guy

you should have no problem

you seem to need

prop up your savior

send you into a tizzy

clue you in

Thank you for your personal concern.
But I shall not accept the role of mentoring.

 

[Chris Craig]

Thank you for your personal concern.
But I shall not accept the role of mentoring.

There is a lot you won't accept

 

[riverman]

Thank you for your personal concern.
But I shall not accept the role of mentoring.

lesson one.....don't dissect sentences....try and comprehend complete sentences.....fragmenting them just takes away the full meaning...

 

[MarAzul]

There is a lot you won't accept

You got that right.

 

[MarAzul]

the full meaning...

I got it riverman my freind! You do not like my logic. I truly do hear you, and have no desire to teach you. I know you are sincere in what you feel.

 

[ABM]

 

[CupWizier]

Thank you for your personal concern.
But I shall not accept the role of mentoring.

Can you provide me proof that you were telling the truth that the 4 women trump is attacking ALL took the oath with a book of Quran? If not, then the only conclusion would be to say that you were telling an "untruth" aka as a lie. You conveniently left the other discussion without answering.

 

[CupWizier]

What we need is to have a president that brings the country together rather than constantly making personal attacks, calling people that are Americans as the enemy, lying and all the other garbage that the last 2.5 years has brought. Deplorable is too kind of word used for trump.

 

[MarAzul]

ALL took the oath with a book of Quran?

I never said they did.

 

[ABM]

What we need is to have a president that brings the country together rather than constantly making personal attacks, calling people that are Americans as the enemy, lying and all the other garbage that the last 2.5 years has brought. Deplorable is too kind of word used for trump.

OK.

Dude, he ran on all that shtuff, and STILL got elected!

You tell me.

 

[Lanny]

He retracted a statement with this:
"Now, before we go to questions, I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, “You didn’t charge the president because of the OLC opinion.” That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."

How and the hell did they not reach a determination, one way or the other? After two years and millions?
He didn't do his job if he couldn't find enough evidence to summons a grand jury?

The President did everything in his power to obstruct. This makes it plenty hard to find the evidence. However, plenty of evidence of felony crimes came to light but you can't indict a sitting President. The only recourse is impeachment and Republicans will not do that no matter what is found.

 

[MarAzul]

Republicans will not do that no matter what is found

Logic will prevail again.

 

[MarAzul]

Deplorable is too kind of word

Perhaps!
But Hillary's use of the word sealed the deal for the Donald.

 

[MarAzul]

My guess is, the Dems have shot their wad. Sour looks is all that is left.
Now we get to hear from the Justice dept IG and Barr's investigator. Then I think, some shit will hit the fan. I look forward to the events and even jail time for some.

 

[jonnyboy]

New shit has come to light.

 

[ABM]

New shit has come to light.

So long as this ain't shabbos!!

 

[BlazerWookee]

Mueller: I did not clear Trump of obstruction of justice

WASHINGTON (AP) — Robert Mueller on Wednesday bluntly dismissed President Donald Trump’s claims of total exoneration in the federal probe of Russia’s 2016 election interference. The former special counsel told Congress he explicitly did not clear the president of obstructing his investigation.

The televised Capitol Hill appearance, Mueller’s first since wrapping his two-year Russia probe last spring, unfolded at a moment of deep divisions in the country, with many Americans hardened in their opinions about the success of Donald Trump’s presidency and whether impeachment proceedings are necessary.

https://www.apnews.com/f109a539220b41218860fa68176a9c98

He had no authority to clear anyone of anything.

 

[riverman]

wrong thread....great song though

 

[ABM]

wrong thread....great song though

Understood. It was an attempt at a peace laurel.

 

[Chris Craig]

OK.

Dude, he ran on all that shtuff, and STILL got elected!

You tell me.

He said the kind we need to have, not the kind we have

 

[Chris Craig]

Logic will prevail again.

Logic? No. Status quo

 

[Chris Craig]

He had no authority to clear anyone of anything.

He can say whether Trump he found that Trump has or has not commited crimes. He has found evidence Trump commited crimes. You can mince words all you want.

 

[jonnyboy]

He can say whether Trump he found that Trump has or has not commited crimes. He has found evidence Trump commited crimes. You can mince words all you want.

To be fair I think Mueller is the one mincing words. Nobody learned anything of substance today and nothing was settled. Everybody is just that much more confused and we all have a few more nuggets of hazy information to squabble over. This whole thing is a circle jerk and Mueller is trying his best to appease both sides until this thing smolders out.

 

[MarAzul]

Everybody is just that much more confused

Nay! I am not confused at all.

 

[Chris Craig]

To be fair I think Mueller is the one mincing words. Nobody learned anything of substance today and nothing was settled. Everybody is just that much more confused and we all have a few more nuggets of hazy information to squabble over. This whole thing is a circle jerk and Mueller is trying his best to appease both sides until this thing smolders out.

Mueller hasn't minced any words. He has stayed to his report. He has reiterated the Russian interference is no hoax. The investigation is not a witch hunt. He found evidence of conspiracy among Trump's cabinet/staff. The links back to Trump are minimal because he used them for human shields. They fell on the sword for him...God only knows why. He isn't worth it. Mueller stated there were also instances at least 10-11 of Trump obstruction justice. Several of them publicly. It's all there. Mueller isn't trying to appease any one. Where is the confusion?

 

[Chris Craig]

Can't charge a sitting president. Mueller isn't running his "fuck" mouth, he restated the things he already wrote in his reports.

 

[MarAzul]

Trump obstruction justice. Several of them publicly

I doubt you can point to something that would stick, but if you could, then these democrat pussies have an obligation to put their careers on the line, vote to impeach or shut the fuck up. Their full boat whine is unethical without them following the Constitution and then letting their voter decide if they are worthy of their pay check. They won't do it and therefore deserve the disgust of the American people.

 

[MarAzul]

Can't charge a sitting president. Mueller isn't running his "fuck" mouth, he restated the things he already wrote in his reports.

By the Special Prosecutor act that authorized his existence, his report should go to the AG as head of the Justice department. The simple fact is, he could find no crime, nor obstruction that he as a prosecutor could convict.
His report should have been short, not an attempt to persuade congress which was Not the audience for the report, to entice them to impeach. He could not back up the charges, so he ran his fucking mouth via the report, unethically.
Ethical prosecutors never fail to charge a person, but instead slander/libel the person in public and the press with a report instead of a trial. This is what Mueller did. Despicable.

 

[MarAzul]

I was sort of taken back by the presents of Mueller. At 74, he seem a little slow and perhaps a bit frail. It surprised me. I doubt he would he be able to crew on the MarAzul, no way run the coast single handed.
I wounder just how much he actual did in this matter.