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Draco said:
It'll be interesting against Houston. I'm not sure Meyers is quick enough to play against Dwight defensively
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The thing is though he can pound on him and use a few fouls.
 
kjironman1 said:
The thing is though he can pound on him and use a few fouls.
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So can Kaman and Cliff.

He has to be more than a big body out there. Plumlee and Davis provide multiple benefits on offense and defense.
 
jlprk said:
His agent is making a deeper analysis than just picking the 2 currently best teams. There are both winning and losing teams on which Leonard would look far better than now. Which ones? His agent asks this board so he can phone them.
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Kerr or Pops teams would be poor spots for him. With the 6ers, Lakers, Magic he could probably get the best individual stats. Maybe Detroit as a limited minute Drummond backup. I could see him outplaying Aron Baynes. New Orleans roster is so awful he could get individual stats on their second unit.

Rosters where he gets minutes by default would be the best spot for him; the coach isn't important. He thought he'd get minutes by default here but the team ended up being better than expected with teammates who far outplay him.

Meyer's is quite bad at defense against any player under 7' I can't see him helping a respectable playoff team. He could make the most money putting up decent stats on a terrible team; similar to Spencer Hawes or as some said Andre Bargnani.
 
kjironman1 said:
Not to mention 240 lbs and pure beast.....
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He's still in school...next season I expect him to at least contend for a rotation spot. I think he's probably best in a grind it out half court game but there are fewer and fewer of those these days
 
kjironman1 said:
Alexander is a 6-8 or 6-9 depends on who you ask Power Forward.
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He rebounds, blocks shots, defends, has a huge wingspan; but no jump shot. That makes him a center. Draymond Green plays extensive center 6-9 is plenty tall for a backup center. Cliff won't share the court with Ed Davis or Plumlee.
 
Draco said:
He rebounds, blocks shots, defends, has a huge wingspan; but no jump shot. That makes him a center. Draymond Green plays extensive center 6-9 is plenty tall for a backup center. Cliff won't share the court with Ed Davis or Plumlee.
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Alright if you say so....
 
riverman said:
He's still in school...next season I expect him to at least contend for a rotation spot. I think he's probably best in a grind it out half court game but there are fewer and fewer of those these days
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I think there is definitely some truth to this, but I think it's really more of a "next man up" issue. We have Vonleh, Davis, Harkless, and Aminu who can all play PF*. Two or even three of those would have to go out with injury/whatever before Cliff sniffs the floor. That's not going to change next season, probably, but you never know. Regardless, I don't think this is a reflection on Cliff's ability, just the pecking order.


*some would include Biebs, too.
 
kjironman1 said:
Really do not know why we have not seen Cliff at all this season?
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Given Stotts' willingness to give multiple chances to Vonleh/Leonard/Harkless, I think we have to assume that Alexander is really stinking it up in practice. This is not a coaching staff that just blindly buries youngsters.
 
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Does NO re-sign Leonard this summer, and for how much?

This seasons UFA PF class does not have many players that fit into NO’s and Dame’s age requirements. Most of the FA PFs are too old.

However, there is at least one player that may be worth considering, and he should sign for way less than Leonard is dreaming about.

Jon Leuer, 26, with 4 years experience has developed a nice well rounded game, both on O & D. He plays with hustle and a big heart, and is ready to be a good BUPF now.

If Vonley is our starting PF of the future, Leuer is worth considering as his backup, instead of overpaying Leonard.
 
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oldmangrouch said:
Given Stotts' willingness to give multiple chances to Vonleh/Leonard/Harkless, I think we have to assume that Alexander is really stinking it up in practice. This is not a coaching staff that just blindly buries youngsters.
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Alexander recently turned 20, and had almost no experience in college. It's almost like having a high schooler. Everyone in front of him had more experience, even Vonleh. His chance will come.

And I agree that Alexander is a center. Everything about his size and game says center. Don't worry about height. Look at his wingspan. And there will be very few players that will be able to body him. He's stronger than both davis and plumlee.
 


It's high school, but you can see him beating jahlil okafor and Karl Anthony Towns on the boards and both those guys are centers.
 
Scalma said:
And I agree that Alexander is a center. Everything about his size and game says center. Don't worry about height. Look at his wingspan. And there will be very few players that will be able to body him. He's stronger than both davis and plumlee.
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Everything you say is true. But what is really exciting about that....Vonleh has an even wider wingspan. But Alexander does edge him out for standing reach. none-the-less that is two 20 year olds with potential in the post. Makes up for not having a lottery pick this year.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Everything you say is true. But what is really exciting about that....Vonleh has an even wider wingspan. But Alexander does edge him out for standing reach. none-the-less that is two 20 year olds with potential in the post. Makes up for not having a lottery pick this year.
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True. It'll be fun to watch both develop. They could even theoretically play together since Vonleh can stretch the court (I know his percentages are bad but Vonleh can shoot)
 
oldfisherman said:
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Does NO re-sign Leonard this summer, and for how much?

This seasons UFA PF class does not have many players that fit into NO’s and Dame’s age requirements. Most of the FA PFs are too old.

However, there is at least one player that may be worth considering, and he should sign for way less than Leonard is dreaming about.

Jon Leuer, 26, with 4 years experience has developed a nice well rounded game, both on O & D. He plays with hustle and a big heart, and is ready to be a good BUPF now.

If Vonley is our starting PF of the future, Leuer is worth considering as his backup, instead of overpaying Leonard.
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Yep, agreed. I brought him up in another thread as well. Seems like a total Stotts guy. My only concern is that now that Morris has been shipped out, he might get more minutes and earn himself a big FA contract. Hopefully he'll remain in obscurity for the rest of the season, and he'll be available for an Aminu-like deal.
 
Have I told any of you how happy I am that Meyers isn't playing? If he ain't hittin shots, he's a liability.
 
Strenuus said:
Have I told any of you how happy I am that Meyers isn't playing? If he ain't hittin shots, he's a liability.
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Unfortunately he still gets some minutes. When the number drop to 0, that's when we know we have won the war.
 
Draco said:
18 games left in the season. So far;

Damian Lillard 18 blocks
CJ McCollum 17 blocks
Meyers Leonard 16 blocks

It'll be quite a race!
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On a sorta sidebar, Dame has 0 steals in the last 7 games.
 
Hard to rack up assists when teams are not only doubling him at every turn, but his teammates aren't hitting. Last night was the first time in a while that AFA was hitting from downtown. Hendo's been off the mark over these past four games. Crabbe's been in a slump since the All-Star Break. And Plume is still hit or miss whether he'll convert off of the pick and roll, likely ends up at the line which doesn't equate to assists.
 
Natebishop3 said:
His assists have gone down too. I think he's focusing too much on scoring and getting to that 30 point mark.
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Some very careless turnovers last night against a defense that was totally ready to stop him.
 
Natebishop3 said:
His assists have gone down too. I think he's focusing too much on scoring and getting to that 30 point mark.
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I think just the opposite was on display yesterday. I thought he forced some passes, particularly in the 1st half, to try to get some assists. They resulted in costly turnovers. I'd be astounded if Dame wasn't aware of his needing to boost his assists a bit in order to get into the 25 and 7 club. I'm all for it, but not at the expense of ill-advised passes turning into layups at the other end.
 
Draco said:
18 games left in the season. So far;

Damian Lillard 18 blocks
CJ McCollum 17 blocks
Meyers Leonard 16 blocks

It'll be quite a race!
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In fairness:

Lillard: 2,049 minutes played
McCollum: 2,170 minutes played
Leonard: 1,240 minutes played

Still, Harkless at 1,063 minutes has 23 blocks & Ed Davis at 1,325 minutes has 54 blocks. You'd think a guy with the height and reach of Leonard could do a bit better.

Gramps...
 
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