Miami's Expectations

[Charcoal Filtered]

Does anyone that was thinking they could win 70+ regular season games still think so? Four loses and they have not even played 10 games!

I still think they are a contender, but hopefully the "greatest team ever assembled" talk goes away until they do something on the court.

 

[MickZagger]

Does anyone that was thinking they could win 70+ regular season games still think so? Four loses and they have not even played 10 games!

I still think they are a contender, but hopefully the "greatest team ever assembled" talk goes away until they do something on the court.

I thought I saw you jumping on that bandwagon in about July or August.

 

[julius]

you don't think they can go 65-8?

 

[THE HCP]

Man was I wrong! They will be fine once they start to gel, but I never thought they would struggle like this.

 

[MickZagger]

It all looks fancy on paper. Then eventually you have to roll the ball out there and see what happens.

 

[Mamba]

They have no post presence. Anybody with a dominant big man will give them a hell of a series.

Lakers take them in 4 ;]

 

[VanillaGorilla]

They have no post presence. Anybody with a dominant big man will give them a hell of a series.

Lakers take them in 4 ;]

I know they should get better by playoff time, but I don't see them getting past Boston.

 

[KingSpeed]

I know it sounds crazy, but LeBron had a better supporting cast in Cleveland. He should've stayed there.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

I thought I saw you jumping on that bandwagon in about July or August.

Nope. Tried finding any post that may give that impression. Only found this one:

1. The problem with the statement for me is that Bosh is not the best compliment to James and Wade, so there are multiple players that could be substituted for him. Historically, it would be James and Wade that would be compared to other duos. Right now, they are bringing back memories of the Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady dynasty in Orlando.

And this thread where I begged HCP to bet me.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/172290...wins-in-West-at-52-wins?p=2442517#post2442517

Congrats on also seeing thru the BS.

 

[KingSpeed]

They have no post presence. Anybody with a dominant big man will give them a hell of a series.

Lakers take them in 4 ;]

Or point guard. Or at least someone who can guard a point guard. Their 4 losses were to Rondo, Paul, DWill, Rondo.

 

[KingSpeed]

Nope. Tried finding any post that may give that impression. Only found this one:



And this thread where I begged HCP to bet me.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/172290...wins-in-West-at-52-wins?p=2442517#post2442517

Congrats on also seeing thru the BS.

Umm Tracy McGrady and Grant Hill never even played a full season together. Hill was always hurt.

 

[Mamba]

I remember on opening night that was pointed out, as well. Rondo, if healthy, will eat them alive in a post season series.

Season is still early, though. I just don't think they're that good. Maybe in the next few years.

Maybe they should look to dump Bosh for a solid defensive big and a solid PG.

 

[Nate4Prez]

78-4

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Umm Tracy McGrady and Grant Hill never even played a full season together. Hill was always hurt.

They brought back memories to me because the press had them as a dynasty and they never got out of the first round. I still think Miami is a contender, but Boston and Orlando may be the ones playing for the Eastern Crown this season.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Maybe they should look to dump Bosh for a solid defensive big and a solid PG.

Never be the team trading 1 for 2. Usually the team that gets the single best player in a trade wins.

We will see what the new CBA brings, but they should be able to use the MLE to gradually pick up these types of players.

 

[KingSpeed]

They brought back memories to me because the press had them as a dynasty and they never got out of the first round..

Dude. Grant Hill was there for 6 seasons but only played in ONE playoff series because he was hurt. They had ONE series together. It's not like they lost year after year together.

 

[THE HCP]

I still think they win the championship. But I was wrong about their regular season dominance.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

They brought back memories to me because the press had them as a dynasty and they never got out of the first round. I still think Miami is a contender, but Boston and Orlando may be the ones playing for the Eastern Crown this season.

Does this help?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

I still think they win the championship. But I was wrong about their regular season dominance.

How do they get past the front courts of the Celtics and Lakers? They have no big men that can hold their own with Shaq, Jermaine, Perkins, Garnett, Davis and then Gasol, Bynum and Odom. In a 7 game series they will just get worn down and owned in the paint.

 

[alex42083]

The Lakers will absolutely eat the Heat alive... it'll be a clinic offensively and defensively. Miami can win on talent alone against the scrub teams, but don't have the chemistry to beat the good teams.

And Bosh makes LaMarcus look like Tim Duncan so far, in terms of their post presence.

 

[mook]

I definitely overestimated how good this team would be. Or maybe underestimated how bad their front court would be.

I thought they'd get in at least one really dominant season, but it doesn't look that way so far. One of their big three is going to have to be moved sooner than I thought. I always figured it'd be Wade, but maybe it's Bosh. They really need a Marcus Camby type.

 

[HailBlazers]

I know it sounds crazy, but LeBron had a better supporting cast in Cleveland. He should've stayed there.

I know, Right! Imagine if Amare or someone would of went there...

 

[Hey]

It was a better fit for his playing style, but that cast was never going to help him win a championship.

 

[44Thrilla]

The Celtics have been missing Jermaine and Perkins in both games and Miami still looks weak down low. Imagine how easily Boston will beat them if they are all healthy come playoff time (although that's kinda unlikely).

 

[mook]

I wonder which fan base is in for the biggest letdown this season? Miami, Portland, Oklahoma or Houston?

 

[mook]

The Celtics have been missing Jermaine and Perkins in both games and Miami still looks weak down low. Imagine how easily Boston will beat them if they are all healthy come playoff time (although that's kinda unlikely).

Just wait 'til they get Mike Miller back. With him they get....another guy who needs shots to be effective. Hmmm. Nevermind.

 

[44Thrilla]

I wonder which fan base is in for the biggest letdown this season? Miami, Portland, Oklahoma or Houston?

rule Miami out because they have no true fan base

 

[hasoos]

Just wait 'til they get Mike Miller back. With him they get....another guy who needs shots to be effective. Hmmm. Nevermind.

Miller will provide spacing and only take shots when given the ball in a spot up situation. That means that Lebron, Wade, or Bosh have to decide to give him the ball, and then if he gets it, he is supposed to shoot. So I don't really see a problem there. For the most part, when James Jones is hitting outside shots right now the team functions much better. Miller is a much better version of him. The fact that James Jones isn't hitting those shots on a regular basis, is part of the reason Miami is struggling right now. Just pack the paint.

 

[44Thrilla]

LMAO did anybody hear LeBron saying him and Wade are playing too many minutes?? wow

 

[andalusian]

Miller will provide spacing and only take shots when given the ball in a spot up situation. That means that Lebron, Wade, or Bosh have to decide to give him the ball, and then if he gets it, he is supposed to shoot. So I don't really see a problem there. For the most part, when James Jones is hitting outside shots right now the team functions much better. Miller is a much better version of him. The fact that James Jones isn't hitting those shots on a regular basis, is part of the reason Miami is struggling right now. Just pack the paint.

James Jones is hitting his 3s at a mind boggling .491 rate right now, and he is taking almost 6 of them a game. I honestly do not think that Miller will do anything better than that - the only thing that Miller might have for them - is that they will be able to have a 3Pt. shooter for 48 MPG with him and Jones on the roster - so maybe this would help, but logically, I just do not see the combined Miller/Jones continue to hit 3s at the crazy pace Jones does so far, so I am not certain his return would be that big an advantage for them.

Maybe they can play "big-small" with Wade handling the ball, Miller and Jones spacing and LeBron playing the 4 while Bosh plays the 5... it does feel like a gimmick line-up, however, and will continue to be exposed in the post.