Michael Moore Refuses To Answer Net Worth Questions @ Occupy PDX

[Ed O]

While I'm sure it is true that there probably are some 1%'ers claiming to be 99%'ers, that's a pretty misleading use of statistics. What does the median value of housing units in the United States have to do with a group of New Yorkers?

What does the plight of poor people in New Mexico (or Illinois, or any other state) have to do with a bunch of New Yorkers? And, yet, they are claiming to represent the 99% of the US population.

Ed O.

 

[barfo]

As I posted, he IS denying that he is in the 1% (see the video someone else posted). The blog you posted was titled "Life Among the 1%" but he does not acknowledge that he is part of the 1%. He basically says that capitalism is not how or why he gets to keep the fruit of his labor and that he gives away more than he thinks most rich people do.

I think my original question of why he won't admit he's in the 1% (but point out that some people who make that much actually want change, just like many in the 99% do not) is still a pretty good one.

Ed O.

Dunno. I take the blog post to be an admission that he's in the 1%. After all, it's about his life, not about the 1%'ers that he hobnobs with, so what else could the title mean?
But then the video does show that he denies being in the 1%. So, either he's telling different people different things, or he was trying (and mostly failing) to make some sort of point about the definition of 1%.

barfo

 

[barfo]

What does the plight of poor people in New Mexico (or Illinois, or any other state) have to do with a bunch of New Yorkers? And, yet, they are claiming to represent the 99% of the US population.

Ed O.

Well, now we are back to 'why should a straight guy be in favor of gay marriage if he doesn't intend to marry a man?'.
It is possible to protest on behalf of someone in New Mexico while in New York. It is not possible to pay New Mexico housing prices while in New York.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

If he's worth $50m and he has it in savings, he'd only need to make .8% interest or so on that capital to be in the 1%, as measured by income.

As I posted, he IS denying that he is in the 1% (see the video someone else posted). The blog you posted was titled "Life Among the 1%" but he does not acknowledge that he is part of the 1%. He basically says that capitalism is not how or why he gets to keep the fruit of his labor and that he gives away more than he thinks most rich people do.

I think my original question of why he won't admit he's in the 1% (but point out that some people who make that much actually want change, just like many in the 99% do not) is still a pretty good one.

Ed O.

Beat me to it. Beat barfo, in general, too ;-)

 

[Denny Crane]

Dunno. I take the blog post to be an admission that he's in the 1%. After all, it's about his life, not about the 1%'ers that he hobnobs with, so what else could the title mean?
But then the video does show that he denies being in the 1%. So, either he's telling different people different things, or he was trying (and mostly failing) to make some sort of point about the definition of 1%.

barfo

Or the inconvenient truth is he's a big fat liar.

 

[Ed O]

Well, now we are back to 'why should a straight guy be in favor of gay marriage if he doesn't intend to marry a man?'.
It is possible to protest on behalf of someone in New Mexico while in New York. It is not possible to pay New Mexico housing prices while in New York.

It shows that "99%" and "1%" are bullshit, in my opinion. It's an arbitrary complaint with a specific number to give it an air of legitimacy.

I think it's dishonest for Occupiers to hide behind a statistic but then fail to defend their use of it.

Ed O.

 

[barfo]

Or the inconvenient truth is he's a big fat liar.

I think that was one of the possibilities I listed.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

I think that was one of the possibilities I listed.

barfo

His blog post is disingenuous. He talks about his first success decades ago but conveniently doesn't say much about the recent three that grossed $300M.

It's beyond a mere possibility.

 

[barfo]

It shows that "99%" and "1%" are bullshit, in my opinion. It's an arbitrary complaint with a specific number to give it an air of legitimacy.

I think it's dishonest for Occupiers to hide behind a statistic but then fail to defend their use of it.

Ed O.

Sure, I suppose. Just like every other political slogan. Was it really 'morning in America'? Do people in NH really 'Live free or die'? Is Herman Cain's 9-9-9 plan really that simple? Etc.

barfo

 

[barfo]

His blog post is disingenuous. He talks about his first success decades ago but conveniently doesn't say much about the recent three that grossed $300M.

I'm pretty sure bloggers get to decide what they post about. They don't have to cover the topics you want them to.

barfo

 

[ABM]

I think he'd have to be included in that, since any tax on 1%'ers would include him - unless there is a special exemption for filmmakers from Michigan.

In that case, his (proposed) tax rate should double that of other 1%'ers. The financial needs are much greater in Michigan....particularly, Motown.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

we are the 99%....

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/02/opulent-homes-of-the-99-percent-slideshow/5_2/

 

[44Thrilla]

Wow, I guess I'm missing the point of both sides because all of this seems very silly to me.

 

[barfo]

Wow, I guess I'm missing the point of both sides because all of this seems very silly to me.

I'm not sure there are even two sides here, but it certainly is silly.

barfo

 

[ABM]

I'm not sure there are even two sides here, but it certainly is silly.

barfo

What, the direct activities and peripheral events of Occupation?

 

[barfo]

What, the direct activities and peripheral events of Occupation?

No, being obsessed with Michael Moore. He matters way more to the conservatives here than he does to normal people.

barfo

 

[ABM]

No, being obsessed with Michael Moore. He matters way more to the conservatives here than he does to normal people.

barfo

Hmm...I'm not really sensing an obsession with the man. Personally, I posted the thread merely to point out what I had perceived as a tad bit of hypocrisy on his part.

For that matter, what was he doing in Portland? Certainly, it couldn't have been purely in support of Occupy Portland.

 

[barfo]

Hmm...I'm not really sensing an obsession with the man. Personally, I posted the thread merely to point out what I had perceived as a tad bit of hypocrisy on his part.

For that matter, what was he doing in Portland? Certainly, it couldn't have been purely in support of Occupy Portland.

I think I read that it wasn't purely that, but I've forgotten what the other thing was.

barfo